Eterna
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 142 Likes: 330
inherit
5174
0
330
Eterna
142
March 2017
eterna
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Eterna on Mar 23, 2017 8:52:47 GMT
Even with low expectations, I'm not enjoying myself as much as I wanted. THe gameplay is pretty solid, but the writing is so bad. People can yell "Bad animations! Bad animations!" all they want, but all that would've been forgiven, if the story had at least been good. We forgave ME1's combat because we loved the story. Oh yeah, baby. ME1 was especially egregious since it came out after Gears of War set the standard for TPS gameplay, and it was still a massive (pun not intended) success. The story in Andromeda is just....bad. I'm sorry but it is. It's generic and worst yet, it's boring. I've been thinking so much about Mass Effect 1-3. All the amazing characters we met, the great directing, the situations, the choices, the mystery, the music, all of it was top notch. It felt like a real cinematic experience. Andromeda feels like a generic sci fi story, with a Mass Effect paint job over it. I would've embraced every bad animation, every glitch, every ounce of bad UI design with wide open arms, if only the story of the game had been solid. And it's NOT guys. It's just not. I feel you, man. I've been madly in love with this franchise since ME1 and it really hurts to see it being mishandled like this. Nah the game is fine.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
1818
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 9:15:19 GMT
Superhero attack chopper vanguard is everything I hoped it would be. I traded a jump jet for space magic and I'll never go back. Kinda off topic, but how do you play Vanguard? I'm still stuck in the ME3 Vanguard charge/nova playstyle and find my self waiting for CDs. *gasp* So, any tips would be great... Thinking I have to try charge, nova and backlash - since CDs aren't nearly as short as ME3. I'd think it would be a bit easier since CDs are by individual power (ala ME1) instead of one CD for all of your powers. Unless your nova is in CD when you start the charge, you should be able to do it immediately after charging.
|
|
inherit
5491
0
Mar 26, 2017 17:41:58 GMT
1
sprite5
2
Mar 22, 2017 10:25:49 GMT
March 2017
sprite5
|
Post by sprite5 on Mar 23, 2017 10:00:37 GMT
I'm loving it so far, I even like the slow start feels like original ME. Just got the Nomad and loving it even more. It's not gonna grip me like the first games story, but not much does.
Where it matters, the actual gameplay mechanics, I think are best in the series. Bigger better worlds than ever before, better customisation and exploration. It feels more disparate than the other 3, not as cohesive, but this is defo not a bad game.
The community, like most, can be fairly entitled and If the game isn't 100% as they have imagined for years since the first announcement then they go mad.
|
|
inherit
2266
0
May 10, 2017 22:11:35 GMT
1,212
warbaby2
1,418
December 2016
warbaby2
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by warbaby2 on Mar 23, 2017 10:13:36 GMT
Neh, the game is ok... buggy as hell and frustratingly underdeveloped, but still kinda fun.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
460
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 10:16:35 GMT
Only one hour in so i cannot really say that much yet but so far so good haha.
|
|
Willa
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 32 Likes: 113
inherit
2011
0
Jan 31, 2020 19:04:06 GMT
113
Willa
32
November 2016
michelle92
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Willa on Mar 23, 2017 10:30:57 GMT
I am really enjoying it Have played about 37 hours since korean release. I'm now at 37% game completed. So much to do!
|
|
inherit
1039
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:05:24 GMT
5,179
Lebanese Dude
Anti-Gamer Culture
2,083
Aug 17, 2016 14:13:30 GMT
August 2016
lebanesedude
|
Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 23, 2017 11:34:39 GMT
Game is almost perfect.
Its problem is that it lacks some polish in non-critical departments.
The UI for example is incomplete for a few gameplay functions like R&D. They needed some tweaking to make them more learnable. An alternative would have been a stronger tutorial system. There are also odd design choices like no saving during non-linear plot missions.
A few more but people around here have voiced them enough.
I honestly don't see a problem with the writing.
People talk about lack of renegade. I say that they moved away from the "good cop" / "bad cop" of the ME trilogy to the "by the books stickler" / "adventurous goofball" characterizations. The latter makes far more sense given the context of the situation. In ME trilogy you had to save the universe so "at any expense" made sense. In MEA that is not feasible. You don't make sacrifices like that when you're building a new home. You can still be a douchebag occasionally.
As for the dialogue itself, it's honestly no different from the trilogy (and other games for that matter). In fact it's better as the choices of even seemingly irrelevant dialogue are referenced later in the game, not just what they stand for (paragon/renegade). World-building took a step up here in that you have to talk to people to learn more about the settings and you can also overhear them talk about it pretty damn often.
Some dialogue's got the usual cheese though. I will admit that if you aren't the humorous type, casual Ryder may infuriate you. I'm pretty sure the jokes are semi-cheesy on purpose to emulate the space explorers in media (like Star Trek). So I suggest sticking with professional if it's not your type. Luckily the cheese is mostly limited to Ryder and sometimes the companions when they try to be cheesy with you.
I found it endearing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
1282
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 11:38:25 GMT
After a slow start i am actually quite into the game. I enjoy pretty much everything about it, so no you are not alone. Stay strong, brother!
|
|
inherit
4435
0
Nov 22, 2024 14:15:55 GMT
637
acehilator
484
Mar 13, 2017 14:14:28 GMT
March 2017
acehilator
|
Post by acehilator on Mar 23, 2017 17:34:27 GMT
I'm only level 5 or so (on Hardcore) and am dying more often than I should be. Can I ask which skills are the most useful for you so far? Pull/Throw seems the best at the moment. Singularity a mixed bag. Was looking at Barricade for some mobile cover. I put one point in Overload but not sure how useful it is. I feel the cover isn't very "sticky" in this game and sometimes can't tell when I'm protected or not. And I'm getting flanked often, I miss the pausing of the OT. I am running Charge/Nova/Overload with a ton of passives (Barrier, some Offensive Biotics, Combat Fitness, some Assault Rifles and Shotguns). Only two points in Overload, I still dont have more skillpoints for the third skill. Might switch to something else, or go full six points. Early on with the option to hold for charge it is really nice. Core concept of the build is the Charge six-point ability Shock Trooper, plus melee, and the Vanguard profile passive that replenishes shields when using melee. AR for situations when melee is not an option (personal preference, using a Mattock), and a shotgun for the big armored enemies (using the N7 Piranha, friggin' OP lol). Need at least 4 points in Shotguns for the weight reduction skill to be able to carry both. Not entirely sold on the cover system either, but ever since level 20 or so I pretty much stopped using it anyways. With the Charge playstyle, flanking enemies are no concern either. And the range on Charge is just ridiculous. Pretty confident in the build overall. I don't want to spoil anything, but so far I have found only one enemy it is not really equipped to deal with, might have to respec for that. But it is not part of the main story, just a sidequest
|
|
inherit
4247
0
Apr 20, 2017 18:42:14 GMT
489
ticktak77
460
March 2017
ticktak77
|
Post by ticktak77 on Mar 23, 2017 17:40:14 GMT
I like it.
I don't love it.
5 years after the release of Mass Effect 3, the fact that combat seems to be the only thing that's improved in that time is surprising.
The fact that several other systems, from inventory management, facial animations, character animations, dialogue, story-telling, and world building, all seem to have inexplicably gotten WORSE in those 5 years, is both depressing and unacceptable.
Chuck all the technical and performance issues on top of all of that?
For the enjoyment I'm getting out of the game, I think Bioware deserves almost all the heat being directed at them at the moment.
They set a very high bar for themselves, and failed to meet their own standard
In a weird way though, none of that means you can't enjoy the game. Mentally though, it helps accepting that this isn't exactly a masterpiece.
|
|
House Targaryen
N5
The night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: gscott7833
Prime Posts: 1,584
Posts: 4,535 Likes: 10,216
inherit
621
0
10,216
House Targaryen
The night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away.
4,535
August 2016
thehound
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
gscott7833
1,584
|
Post by House Targaryen on Mar 23, 2017 17:44:37 GMT
Well I was liking until today...
|
|
inherit
2266
0
May 10, 2017 22:11:35 GMT
1,212
warbaby2
1,418
December 2016
warbaby2
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by warbaby2 on Mar 23, 2017 17:46:35 GMT
Well I was liking until today... You in Europe?
|
|
House Targaryen
N5
The night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Origin: gscott7833
Prime Posts: 1,584
Posts: 4,535 Likes: 10,216
inherit
621
0
10,216
House Targaryen
The night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away.
4,535
August 2016
thehound
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
gscott7833
1,584
|
Post by House Targaryen on Mar 23, 2017 17:47:32 GMT
Well I was liking until today... You in Europe? No, US. I can't play a game with the sound cutting out.
|
|
Bann Duncan
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 308 Likes: 429
inherit
4209
0
429
Bann Duncan
308
March 2017
bannduncan
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 23, 2017 17:48:17 GMT
I think most people who actually played it like it, or at very least think it's OK. The hate that it's getting is borderline irrational, it's like people want to hate it if you go by the metacritic scores. Game wasn't even released and people were giving it 0 for all sorts of wierd reasons besides the faces like "pushing the gay agenda". One of my favorite dynamics of nerdrage at BioWare games is that you get this and then you get a whole contingent of "BioWare is run by homophobes because the character I wrote slashfic about wasn't retconned gay" at the same time.
|
|
inherit
2266
0
May 10, 2017 22:11:35 GMT
1,212
warbaby2
1,418
December 2016
warbaby2
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
|
Post by warbaby2 on Mar 23, 2017 17:48:54 GMT
You in Europe? No, US. I can't play a game with the sound cutting out. Ah, ok, I though you might be in Europe and actually started playing the game today... silly joke, never mind.
|
|
Heimdall
N6
∯ Interjector in Chief
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Heimdall
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Dragon Age The Veilguard
Origin: HeimdallX
Posts: 5,848 Likes: 13,549
inherit
∯ Interjector in Chief
279
0
1
Nov 28, 2024 10:45:07 GMT
13,549
Heimdall
5,848
August 2016
heimdall
Heimdall
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Dragon Age The Veilguard
HeimdallX
|
Post by Heimdall on Mar 23, 2017 17:49:14 GMT
I like it.
I just have a lot of problems with it and think there was a ton of room to improve.
The dialogue in particular is cringe worthy at times, even more so than the OT.
|
|
FeralEwok
N3
Yub Nub
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 494 Likes: 1,374
inherit
4296
0
Nov 17, 2017 12:02:30 GMT
1,374
FeralEwok
Yub Nub
494
Mar 10, 2017 12:40:48 GMT
March 2017
feralewok
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by FeralEwok on Mar 23, 2017 18:02:25 GMT
I'm only about 15 hours in at this point (due to work taking up so much of my time) but by the end of the weekend I should have better idea overall how I feel about the game.
That being said, I'm enjoying the game quite a bit and feel like the overall "outrage" is excessive. I'm not expecting it to top ME2 or ME3, but right now it feels like a soft reboot of Mass Effect 1 and that's just fine.
The biggest improvement for me though is just how natural sounding Scott/Sara Ryder are. Their voice actors did a really great job, and I feel much more like a genuine person in this game. I love M/F Shepard due to the extensive time spent playing as them, I still like them above Ryder...BUT something tells me if they keep this protagonist AND I get to see them grow/change over the course of several games, I will end up liking Ryder just a little bit more.
Companions are a mix bunch so far, some I like, some I just don't have strong feelings about, and none that I hate. That's about right on par for a Bioware game for me.
|
|
R1Outcast
N3
That's what she said...
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 360 Likes: 925
inherit
4698
0
925
R1Outcast
That's what she said...
360
Mar 16, 2017 20:38:03 GMT
March 2017
tizodd
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by R1Outcast on Mar 23, 2017 18:30:59 GMT
The more I play it, the more I like it. Going to the planet with the exiles was the change of scenery I needed. I seriously doubt it will be GotY or anything, but it's a great game imo.
|
|
inherit
4862
0
4
bomber
6
Mar 17, 2017 20:56:26 GMT
March 2017
bomber
|
Post by bomber on Mar 23, 2017 18:32:20 GMT
I was very certain that i wont buy this game on release, but guess im yust too weak and curiosity took over I enjoyed trial and same is with whole game so far. Even those face animation problems arent that visible, maybe cuz i use subs and dont pay that much attention on faces. Theres things i would like to be different. Combat is very good. I personally dont like auto cover systems though, but thats in all games. I would prefer control those motions by my self. Planets looks great, story is ok as well.. good game basicaly. As i said previously somewhere, imo, it shouldnt rate lower than da inquisition.
|
|
inherit
4956
0
Mar 27, 2017 17:34:12 GMT
7
geoffreyomega
8
Mar 18, 2017 15:34:03 GMT
March 2017
geoffreyomega
|
Post by geoffreyomega on Mar 23, 2017 18:32:36 GMT
Been in the game 37 hours, I have almost completed all side missions and I'm about to kick in the final mission once I'm done. It's basically ME1 with a lot of things that got worse. The story is nothing amazing, everything is pretty much predictable, it's not bad, it's on par with ME2 where the core story was a "bit" lacking but just not as good. The dialog are poorly written, the choice are very weird at times and Ryder answers feels very unpredictable sometimes. Also, I noticed most choices tend to be the exact same, it's just the way you shout it out that differs slightly, there was no need to have 4 of them, plus it diminished a lot the learning curve of each character that feels very uni-dimensional with a very big deep lack of personal story.
I actually don't know why people are so crying for open world, farming minerals and plants really ain't my thing. I preferred far better the linear aspect of ME2 bringing new characters at each corridor corner and expanding a bit more the universe with an amazing variation of side mission where you would go after a group of scientist that turned into husk, block pack gang, varen attack on lost Quarian ship. Side quest feels very repetitive and each planet has probably two or three quest that are actually a bit more than the usual get to that point, trigger this, get to that point, take this, get to that point, scan this, return to X where you barely get any interaction nor do learn anything story-wise interesting.
Now the ugly: Bug / Glitch everywhere. From creatures clipping through ground or walking 10 meters above you, enoch creatures on voeld that simply "freeze" in front of you when they want to attack and stay stuck. Then there's an unusual amounts of character speaking that surf in the room, teleport, duplicate, texture and model load each time, it's pretty weak.
As many mentioned, the animations, where it's actually not just the facial. Facial animations are a bit weird but, it's few of them, it's just too bad that these are for the most important characters. But there are others much terrible thing compared to the previous mass effect that are IMO unforgivable: Dialog animations, the way most side dialog are just the camera getting closer with the possibility to vaguely look around. It really shines how lazy the mise en scene / acting / directing department is. It doesn't creates pace nor enough concerns for me to care since I never get a clear look at each character interaction with me and most of the time my squademate speaking are off the shot, I can't even see what's their reaction. Ryder seems also very unconcerned. There are also loop for certain characters who are doing things with their datapad and omnitool just like I don't exist. It feels weird to see them doing something in a loop while continuing to talk to me. It completely kills possibility to connect since each character seems unconcerned of my presence and are just here to deliver a line. No body language at all or clear expression.
The musics are impossible to identify and the places / situations seems very repetitive. One of the most striking thing in the first trilogy was the sound, I could tell straight away if I was on Virmire, Noveria, Feros, the Citadel, speaking with the Illusive man, in a combat situation against the geth or Cerberus right away from the track. Here the music is swallowed in a constant abuse of soundFX that even by diminishing these they don't stand out and are just ambient. They aren't bad, but they clearly lacked a direction and to fit to a very precise idea, they are just pieces compose to play in X numbers of situations which I regret a lot.
---
It's not all bad, there's a lot good too, like the possibility to have outpost, waking up people from cryo, it's just that everything feels under-exploited and lacked a real touch of polish. It's not bad but it's barely good, from a licence that fed us with great games it feels very weird especially knowing that this game had 5 years of development and felt like the most under-developed game so far.
|
|
sakuyasama7
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 6 Likes: 4
inherit
5615
0
Mar 30, 2017 18:35:19 GMT
4
sakuyasama7
6
March 2017
sakuyasama7
Mass Effect Trilogy, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by sakuyasama7 on Mar 23, 2017 19:07:45 GMT
Even with some of the issues I've run into (they are really prominent when you start playing in the higher difficulties) I think it's a good game. Still not ME3 in terms of gameplay, or ME1 in story, but good enough. I'm not gonna bash on the animations because a ton of people did that enough times that it's almost a meme at this point.
|
|
inherit
525
0
58
Indomito
56
August 2016
idomito
|
Post by Indomito on Mar 23, 2017 20:13:19 GMT
I think i like any game when i can´t stop playing it. I wish i have more time to play this game. So far it´s a good game. It´s not perfect but very enjoyable at least for me. I probably write a large review once i finish the game.
|
|
jli84
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 225 Likes: 737
inherit
883
0
Nov 27, 2024 20:41:57 GMT
737
jli84
225
Aug 10, 2016 19:39:18 GMT
August 2016
jli84
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by jli84 on Mar 23, 2017 20:21:50 GMT
Im loving it. For some reason the missions Ive played today have gone by without any weird animations. Makes it that more apparent to me how distracting bad animations can be. I have run into a few other funny gliches though... Twin krogans says what? Peebee defying gravity as usual, nothing to see here:
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2073
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
Deleted
0
Nov 28, 2024 11:42:38 GMT
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 20:23:14 GMT
So far, 6 hours in and I actually agree. It's a decent enough game. It helped that I got in with low expectations. I'm liking the game more than I thought I would as well. It's definitely got some big technical flaws, but the story and characters are on par with other ME games and the combat is the best it's ever been in the series. The most disappointing thing for me with this game is that I think it had the potential to be a great game, but whatever went wrong in development and resulted in the lack of polish, drags it down a bit.
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,186 Likes: 4,072
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,072
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,186
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on Mar 23, 2017 20:28:10 GMT
So far, 6 hours in and I actually agree. It's a decent enough game. It helped that I got in with low expectations. I'm liking the game more than I thought I would as well. It's definitely got some big technical flaws, but the story and characters are on par with other ME games and the combat is the best it's ever been in the series. The most disappointing thing for me with this game is that I think it had the potential to be a great game, but whatever went wrong in development and resulted in the lack of polish, drags it down a bit. I can concur with some of this. I do think the problem is they played it very safe with Andromeda. I liken it to being Star Wars: Episode VII as a comparison. It is a return to a familiar setting and trappings, familiar characters with a new cast, a very simple plot that is often by the numbers, and a bit of fan service thrown in. It's good, but perhaps the problem is we expected greatness...
|
|