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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 30, 2017 7:02:00 GMT
Just give it to another studio, it's clear that Bioware Montreal is not up to the task and the A-team Bioware is working on new IP. Like who? Honestly the cure here sounds worse than the disease.
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Post by vanillah on Mar 30, 2017 7:12:04 GMT
Just give it to another studio, it's clear that Bioware Montreal is not up to the task and the A-team Bioware is working on new IP. Like who? Honestly the cure here sounds worse than the disease. It's their problem, all i know is Bioware Montreal sucks. Obsidian made way better written KOTOR and been consistently making good, well written games. So i'd go with them as a pie in the sky scenario.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 30, 2017 7:51:35 GMT
I actually thought the plot of KOTOR far surpassed the plot of KOTOR 2. Not to say Obsidian didn't do a great job, I've just always personally preferred Bioware.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 30, 2017 7:54:15 GMT
I actually thought the plot of KOTOR far surpassed the plot of KOTOR 2. Not to say Obsidian didn't do a great job, I've just always personally preferred Bioware. KOTOR was always better then KOTOR 2. KOTOR 2 is just awful.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 30, 2017 8:02:26 GMT
I actually thought the plot of KOTOR far surpassed the plot of KOTOR 2. Not to say Obsidian didn't do a great job, I've just always personally preferred Bioware. KOTOR was always better then KOTOR 2. KOTOR 2 is just awful. I generally enjoyed it because lightsabers, pazaak, just more KOTOR, but the plot was dire. Though nothing was going to beat the first time you experience the Revan plot reveal in KOTOR.
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Post by lierah on Mar 30, 2017 10:36:48 GMT
Gosh I wish people would leave Obsidian out of things. Heard enough about them after F4 came out. Honestly their stuff has been garbage - keep them away from Bioware stuff.. please While ME:A has some things that need fixed overall its a great game and one I really enjoyed. Even got my mother more interested in the Mass Effect universe- which is a feat in itself. I definitely voted that Montreal keep it up - let's hope they keep the series going in the same direction and don't knee-jerk to make it more like ME2 again.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Mar 30, 2017 11:03:50 GMT
They need to listen to the criticism, fix their game and do better next time. As a company that is so innovative, ground-breaking, they played it too safe this time around.
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Post by mrtijger on Mar 30, 2017 11:42:04 GMT
First off, Edmonton is busy with a new IP and Dragon Age so thats not an option, second, Bioware isnt going to outsource their original IP to an external party, they did that before and it ended in disaster. Lastly, Montreal now has experience and a new universe to work with, the Milky Way story line is done, that ended with ME 3, period, so if there is a next game it will be in this universe.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 30, 2017 12:33:41 GMT
I would like them to give ME to another studio, even Obsidian that I don't like that much. Its not going to happen though, the franchise is dead, time to move on. Bioware isnt going to outsource their original IP to an external party, they did that before and it ended in disaster. Are KOTOR2 and NWN2 that bad? I've heard they are pretty damn good.
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Post by havox on Mar 30, 2017 13:16:32 GMT
Let TellTale make MEA2 XD As ridiculous as that sounds, it worked out for Borderlands series, another third person shooter, so... why not? Tales from Andromeda, huh, has a nice ring to it. A colorful bunch of characters from different races band together to have wacky hijinks, dodge being shot by bandits, kettified, or eaten by a fiend, and attempt to loot ancient artifacts from Remnant vault, with humorous results of course. I'd play it.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Mar 30, 2017 13:39:34 GMT
How about Lego Mass Effect? 😂
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Post by cypherj on Mar 30, 2017 13:44:26 GMT
I would like them to give ME to another studio, even Obsidian that I don't like that much. Its not going to happen though, the franchise is dead, time to move on. Bioware isnt going to outsource their original IP to an external party, they did that before and it ended in disaster. Are KOTOR2 and NWN2 that bad? I've heard they are pretty damn good. The original version of KOTOR II was good until the end, which was abysmal until fans restored it. It was literally like someone walked into the room and said wrap it up, and development stopped. On topic. They need to fix this game first. If it has to be a free patch like the extended cut on ME3, or good DLC like ME3. DLC saved that game, for me at least. The game in it's current state I couldn't even in good conscience recommend to my friends who were waiting to buy it. I just told them to get it on sale or wait until some more patches came out. This game needs to be like DA:O popular, when they couldn't get the DLC and the next game out fast enough. Obviously the second game ended up being rushed, but they need that level of excitement around the game that was present for DA:O.
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Post by joglee on Mar 30, 2017 13:46:18 GMT
Is this even a question? The story goes on, hopefully with Ryder, and I couldn't care less about the studio, just Yep, I love Ryder's personality and especially the crew....I swear Cora better return.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 13:47:55 GMT
a second game wouldn't be so bad if evacuees from the milky way arrive after the reaper war ends with the milky way screwed. (fingers crossed)
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Post by joglee on Mar 30, 2017 13:52:22 GMT
They're good at making games that are fun to play. This games failings certainly weren't in the areas you'll be spending a lot of time with given being a game. Subjective. I didn't have ANY fun. I wouldn't say I hate Andromeda, but for me it's at best a 5 thanks to multiplayer. I'd give the main game a 3.5/10. But I don't expect others to feel the same way. Part of me does wonder, though - if this game is so fun to play, why aren't all of you that love the game on the forums when you could be playing the game? While playing ME 1-3, I was so engrossed by them that I didn't dare go on the forums for fear of spoilers - that, and I was too busy playing the games every waking moment. Ooooh that tired old argument of if the games so good you wouldn't discuss it. You do know not everyone sits and plays a game for 10+hrs a day right?
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Post by Atila on Mar 30, 2017 14:04:14 GMT
Honestly, I find the flaws of MEA to be relatively bearable; So I'd give them a second chance. People learn from their experience. BW Montreal got hit so hard by the critiques that if they were to do a MEA2, I doubt they'd be making the same mistakes. We're talking about a beloved franchise & millions of dollar worth company. It's no longer a simple matter of satisfying the fans anymore, if the 2nd franchise go wrong again, they won't be able to make money off of BW Montreal again.
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Post by guynice on Mar 30, 2017 14:11:54 GMT
For my money, Montreal could do it in theory, but they need a new project director / lead designer and new writers. This game suffers badly from design-by-committee syndrome, there is no director's touch or vision to it. The systems are all over the place, the writing ranges from passable to atrocious, the voice work is very uneven and mostly uninspired. They are a technically sound a developer (despite the bugs), the combat and environments prove that at least, but god damn they have no idea how to write dialogue or write a story for anyone above the mental age of 12.
I'm having fun with this game, especially multiplayer (already have to force myself to see the single player through, haven't even been to all the planets yet), but as 80% of the writing falls flat in a bad way. I honestly don't understand how that is not the #1 complaint here (it is for many reviewers), different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 30, 2017 14:42:23 GMT
I just want more ME. Maybe a game linking both galaxies. Though the tricky part is that the Milky Way Humans, Turians, Asari etc... will be 600 years more advanced than their Andromeda counterparts.
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Post by Karin Davis on Apr 3, 2017 20:55:23 GMT
How about Lego Mass Effect? 😂 I would totally get behind a Lego: Mass Effect movie. Besides, a movie about Mass Effect? Oh boy! Give, give. Mass Effect Lego toys, I would condone that. At least when you step on them, it's with purpose. But let's all jump on the reviewer band-wagons and come at Bioware with pitchforks and torches. I haven't listened to a single review since.... lol, seriously, 2005? 2000? You wanna play it, you'll play it. You wanna *itch about it, you'll *itch about it. The vocal majority sits on the forums and criticise everything under the sun. While the "minority" is too busy enjoying their lives. And that minority isn't so small, let me tell you that! We're just not spewing dribble left and right! "We" are so great at judging, but who's judging yourself? Oh, of course you're not, you're perfect What happens, happens. "They need to learn to listen to criticism" @ developers and producers, yeah sure. Maybe they know better then to listen to every complaint and personal preference under the sun. Like every, single, game, and forum. Don't like it? Oh well, Bioware contact me please. I'll give you another $90 just to show I appreciate what you guys do. Hell, I'm going to be in your online shop like mad soon, don't worry . Maybe in the near future, contact me again about everyone who "left" this game, and I'll pay for each one. Lol. Smh
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Post by therevanchist25 on Apr 3, 2017 21:49:45 GMT
First week sales will probably be okayish, but I'm expecting a sharp decline afterward. The salt from ME3's ending, bad word of mouth and reviews for ME:A, and all the hilarious memes go around, will probably have a negative affect on sales. There are those near the top of the corporate food chain, who use Metacritic as a metric for a game's success. It's a very flawed business tactics, but a lot of companies use it, and that's just the way it is. So rest assured, there are people at EA right now, who are keeping a close eye on this game's commercial success at this point, because of that 74 score. That said, please don't start the "vocal minority" crap. Wasn't Obsidian screwed out of a bonus because Fallout: New Vegas only got an 84 review on Metacritic rather than an 85? Obsidian "screwed" themselves by releaseing such a horribly broken game at release. Had they bothered to fix more of those bugs, That Bethesda ended up fixing btw, then they would have gotten that extra point.
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Post by guynice on Apr 3, 2017 22:52:52 GMT
Wasn't Obsidian screwed out of a bonus because Fallout: New Vegas only got an 84 review on Metacritic rather than an 85? Obsidian "screwed" themselves by releaseing such a horribly broken game at release. Had they bothered to fix more of those bugs, That Bethesda ended up fixing btw, then they would have gotten that extra point. They were given 18 months by Bethesda to make the game. Considering the development time, it's a miracle they made such a good game. Best of the modern Fallouts IMO. Although it does take quite a bit of modding to really shine.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 3, 2017 23:03:11 GMT
After putting in so much effort to lay a solid foundation for sequels with the Jaardan, Scourge Aliens, Benefactor, and the Kett I can't see them not making another one. And despite some hate I guarantee they made money. DA:I barely broke top 3 on UK sales charts when it came out and it was one of the most successful first week launches for a game to date for them.
Wouldn't mind a time jump of 10 years or so that lets the Ryder's mature a bit and lets you see the outcome of all of your work. Don't need big open worlds on Eos, Veold, Kadara, etc again. Just let us see the colonies and how the planets have changed then focus on new stories and planets.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 3, 2017 23:18:01 GMT
Subjective. I didn't have ANY fun. I wouldn't say I hate Andromeda, but for me it's at best a 5 thanks to multiplayer. I'd give the main game a 3.5/10. But I don't expect others to feel the same way. Part of me does wonder, though - if this game is so fun to play, why aren't all of you that love the game on the forums when you could be playing the game? While playing ME 1-3, I was so engrossed by them that I didn't dare go on the forums for fear of spoilers - that, and I was too busy playing the games every waking moment. Ooooh that tired old argument of if the games so good you wouldn't discuss it. You do know not everyone sits and plays a game for 10+hrs a day right? Hah speak for yourself man. What is sleep??
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Post by cmdrshepard on May 14, 2017 8:32:13 GMT
First off, Edmonton is busy with a new IP and Dragon Age so thats not an option, second, Bioware isnt going to outsource their original IP to an external party, they did that before and it ended in disaster. Lastly, Montreal now has experience and a new universe to work with, the Milky Way story line is done, that ended with ME 3, period, so if there is a next game it will be in this universe. You don't know that for sure. How can you say all these like you have all the proofs that EA and bioware aren't considering other options? Obsidean game wasn't as bad as this MASS DEFECT Bluderomeda. Price of the game dropped 20% after the game was released. Enough said... Also milky way story is not entirely done. Again why make a blind assumption? lots of people wanted mass effect that takes place after the trilogy instead of andromeda. I "believe"(since i dont want to make an unconfirmed assumption) Bioware Austin can work better than Bioware montreal since Their cancelled game was amazing and smooth even if the game was alpha stage. ME:A was poorly written story and poorly designed. Lots of ME fans are not happy with this andromeda. Forced POVs, Forced ideologies and propaganda. If Bioware focused more on gameplays, mechanics and even plots rather than focusing heavily on their ideological agenda the game would turn out to be better. I couldn't stop thinking that this game is so lazy(asari faces are all look same except peebee... what is this...?) and anthropocentric. infact other species were just so human and very bro culture of our society when they have completely different evolutionary steps, culture, civilization and ect. Heck they even talked like humans and used "human only" metaphors to often. either the Bioware Montreal is way out of league to make big games like mass effect or they just can't think outside the box or better off as supporting role such as helping other divisions while other divisions of BIOWARE or EA to take lead designer of the game and franchise. Also they need to stop with the egocentric ways to force their certain political and social views on games while ignoring fans demand completely. EA had to make an apoology to certain group people because bioware montreal forced their views on their game. Drop that kind of act and focus on gameplays and interesting Plots that relates to the franchise lore instead of wasting time and resources on irrelevant subjects. people are tired of politics and social issues and want to play game yet we have to face those two in our favorite game again...? Please no thx...
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 14, 2017 8:43:11 GMT
This was a prediction I wanted to be wrong about.
Still...
Told you so, Pyjaks.
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