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Post by Sartoz on Aug 16, 2016 13:09:16 GMT
Good ol' Kelly, by default my fave ME2 'mance. She went the extra mile to please Shep with that whole striptease too. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the pole dance? 'cause I saw no striptease.
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Post by bardox on Aug 16, 2016 21:42:58 GMT
Good ol' Kelly, by default my fave ME2 'mance. She went the extra mile to please Shep with that whole striptease too. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the pole dance? 'cause I saw no striptease. Wouldn't really call it a Strip tease, just an erotic dance in the Captains Cabin. She is my default romance in ME2. Unless I chose Ashley or Kaidan in ME1 for some odd reason. Kelly in ME3 is kind of sad though.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 17, 2016 0:25:07 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the pole dance? 'cause I saw no striptease. Wouldn't really call it a Strip tease, just an erotic dance in the Captains Cabin. She is my default romance in ME2. Unless I chose Ashley or Kaidan in ME1 for some odd reason. Kelly in ME3 is kind of sad though. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> For some reason, Ashley failed to interest me in 1 & 2. Went for Miranda in my first play through.
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Post by Lavochkin on Aug 18, 2016 7:58:55 GMT
Good ol' Kelly, by default my fave ME2 'mance. She went the extra mile to please Shep with that whole striptease too. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the pole dance? 'cause I saw no striptease. Well, in the ME universe strippers don't strip, even in seedy places like Omega,so....
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 1, 2016 20:49:17 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the pole dance? 'cause I saw no striptease. Wouldn't really call it a Strip tease, just an erotic dance in the Captains Cabin. She is my default romance in ME2. Unless I chose Ashley or Kaidan in ME1 for some odd reason. Kelly in ME3 is kind of sad though. Sad as in doesn't have much content, or sad in some other way?
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Post by bardox on Sept 1, 2016 21:38:20 GMT
Wouldn't really call it a Strip tease, just an erotic dance in the Captains Cabin. She is my default romance in ME2. Unless I chose Ashley or Kaidan in ME1 for some odd reason. Kelly in ME3 is kind of sad though. Sad as in doesn't have much content, or sad in some other way? content wise. One of the things that annoyed me about ME3 was how they shorted some of the ME2 characters. Kelly wasn't exactly a major character in ME2, but I think she deserved more than what she got in ME3.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 2, 2016 13:34:42 GMT
She only show up in ME3 if you have dinner with her in your room. She'll admitted spying on you and the crew for the illusive man because apparently she's too dumb to realize it. She will kill herself if you don't forgive her.
They missed a chance to make ME3's Kelly as a minor villain and a real sleeper agent.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 7, 2016 16:44:43 GMT
She only show up in ME3 if you have dinner with her in your room. She'll admitted spying on you and the crew for the illusive man because apparently she's too dumb to realize it. She will kill herself if you don't forgive her. They missed a chance to make ME3's Kelly as a minor villain and a real sleeper agent. I wouldn't say her not realizing what Cerberus really is means she is dumb. At the time, almost nobody knew who Cerberus was because they remained in the shadows. We only knew of them because of the Shadow Broker. So with no other source of information than Cerberus themselves, it is only natural Kelly and everyone else on the crew would support what they thought the organization was. That was TIM's whole point, he wanted a crew that was likable to win Shepard over to his side. And once they start to see the real Cerberus, the entire crew leaves the organization.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 7, 2016 19:32:50 GMT
Since she have her degree in psychology, I don't want to insult her intelligence but I don't accept her claims that she didn't realize what she was doing... she have cyanide cap in her mouth the entire time. Mordin himself confirmed that Cerberus personnel are implanted with ocular bomb in case they're captured. What kind of organization would want you to willingly kill yourself for them?
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Post by Sifr on Sept 8, 2016 11:01:54 GMT
Since she have her degree in psychology, I don't want to insult her intelligence but I don't accept her claims that she didn't realize what she was doing... she have cyanide cap in her mouth the entire time. Mordin himself confirmed that Cerberus personnel are implanted with ocular bomb in case they're captured. What kind of organization would want you to willingly kill yourself for them? The Mordin thing is actually more creepier than that, when speaking about the cyanide capsules he theorised that ocular flashbangs that would be more effective... meaning that he wasn't so thorough in sweeping his room for bugs as he thought, because TIM took that suggestion and ran with it by the time ME3 rolled around. But yeah, it does seem weird that Kelly or the rest of the Normandy crew didn't know what kind of organisation they were working for, when said organisation went and had suicide pills implanted in their teeth? Didn't that come across as extremely sketchy to anyone, especially ex-Alliance personnel like Gabby and Ken? Makes you think that the reason the Illusive Man speaks highly of Jacob is because he's the only person (barring Shepard) who doesn't trust him whatsoever.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 8, 2016 12:04:02 GMT
There's so much potential in her than just a redhead mini-Liara who feed you fish and wiggle her butt at your face.
My headcanon Kelly is the one who didn't show up in ME3. A true Cerberus loyalist, smart, calculating femme fatale, who manipulated Din Korlak into betraying the Turian and got turned into Phantom at the end of the game after she help TIM with his implant procedure.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 8, 2016 16:39:47 GMT
There was cut dialogue where Kelly talks about how she first met the Illusive Man and how she was propositioned by him but she turned him down out of some instinct that he'd respect her less for it. The ship she was working on got attacked by Batarians and was saved by Cerberus troops. Later on, Kelly was offered a job by him. Shame that it wasn't in there; it would have given some sort of depth to the idea that there was need for Cerberus
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 8, 2016 19:32:29 GMT
Since she have her degree in psychology, I don't want to insult her intelligence but I don't accept her claims that she didn't realize what she was doing... she have cyanide cap in her mouth the entire time. Mordin himself confirmed that Cerberus personnel are implanted with ocular bomb in case they're captured. What kind of organization would want you to willingly kill yourself for them? The Mordin thing is actually more creepier than that, when speaking about the cyanide capsules he theorised that ocular flashbangs that would be more effective... meaning that he wasn't so thorough in sweeping his room for bugs as he thought, because TIM took that suggestion and ran with it by the time ME3 rolled around. But yeah, it does seem weird that Kelly or the rest of the Normandy crew didn't know what kind of organisation they were working for, when said organisation went and had suicide pills implanted in their teeth? Didn't that come across as extremely sketchy to anyone, especially ex-Alliance personnel like Gabby and Ken? Makes you think that the reason the Illusive Man speaks highly of Jacob is because he's the only person (barring Shepard) who doesn't trust him whatsoever. Well, to be honest them accepting that never surprised me. While they don't know their organization's dirty laundry, they do know it is a spec ops group that does some very dangerous things to protect humanity. So if one of those missions go south and they are captured by hostile aliens, instead of risking humanity's secrets being revealed in interrogations you instead sacrifice yourself for the good of humanity. There are multiple real world groups that have done stuff like that, and they aren't nearly as shady as Cerberus(not saying said groups aren't shady, just not evil).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 8, 2016 19:33:27 GMT
There was cut dialogue where Kelly talks about how she first met the Illusive Man and how she was propositioned by him but she turned him down out of some instinct that he'd respect her less for it. The ship she was working on got attacked by Batarians and was saved by Cerberus troops. Later on, Kelly was offered a job by him. Shame that it wasn't in there; it would have given some sort of depth to the idea that there was need for Cerberus I remember reading that. Yeah, that would have been interesting to hear ingame. Especially since we never learn of her backstory other than she went to college to become a psychologist and eventually joined Cerberus.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 8, 2016 20:02:14 GMT
There was cut dialogue where Kelly talks about how she first met the Illusive Man and how she was propositioned by him but she turned him down out of some instinct that he'd respect her less for it. The ship she was working on got attacked by Batarians and was saved by Cerberus troops. Later on, Kelly was offered a job by him. Shame that it wasn't in there; it would have given some sort of depth to the idea that there was need for Cerberus I remember reading that. Yeah, that would have been interesting to hear ingame. Especially since we never learn of her backstory other than she went to college to become a psychologist and eventually joined Cerberus. It changes a great deal about her character than what we originally saw. For one thing, it presents her in a far more self-respecting light that while she may be accepting of others, she's not just handing it out to every Tom, Dick and Harry. Another part is that it emphasizes her skill in reading people. And finally, she has a substantial reason for joining Cerberus instead of being seen as an airhead.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 8, 2016 20:07:00 GMT
I've posted several times in other threads that it would not of been hard to have Kelly on the Normandy in ME3. Just have her in the medbay helping Chakwas/Michel. At times have her walking around the ship making sure everyone is ok and if they have any issues, they can talk to her about them
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 8, 2016 20:15:25 GMT
I remember reading that. Yeah, that would have been interesting to hear ingame. Especially since we never learn of her backstory other than she went to college to become a psychologist and eventually joined Cerberus. It changes a great deal about her character than what we originally saw. For one thing, it presents her in a far more self-respecting light that while she may be accepting of others, she's not just handing it out to every Tom, Dick and Harry. Another part is that it emphasizes her skill in reading people. And finally, she has a substantial reason for joining Cerberus instead of being seen as an airhead. Well, I would say adds more evidence to those things rather than showing them at all but yes I agree.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 8, 2016 20:23:29 GMT
I've posted several times in other threads that it would not of been hard to have Kelly on the Normandy in ME3. Just have her in the medbay helping Chakwas/Michel. At times have her walking around the ship making sure everyone is ok and if they have any issues, they can talk to her about them I would have loved this, and it would have fit wonderfully. Especially considering how nearly every member goes through a crisis during the game, so having her expertise on board would have been wonderful. Like Garrus when he doesn't know if his family made it out, or Liara after the fall of Thessia, or Joker about his sister. For those that don't, they could still have a bunch of things to talk about. Like I can imagine her and Javik both talking about how to read people, since she can through psychology and he can through the Prothean ability of touching someone, or her and Samantha talking about them having the same position, or EDI about adjusting to having a body and wanting a relationship with Jeff.
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Post by Sifr on Sept 9, 2016 4:14:31 GMT
There's so much potential in her than just a redhead mini-Liara who feed you fish and wiggle her butt at your face. My headcanon Kelly is the one who didn't show up in ME3. A true Cerberus loyalist, smart, calculating femme fatale, who manipulated Din Korlak into betraying the Turian and got turned into Phantom at the end of the game after she help TIM with his implant procedure. Yeah, might have been interesting to have her turn out to be like Brooks in Citadel. Perhaps we discover in ME3 that the bridge bunny persona of "Kelly Chambers" was merely a cover she adopted to get everyone on the Normandy to lower their guard down around her and that she's even of a loyalist than Miranda was. Would have been cool to see Badass!Kelly in action at some point, perhaps she could even have been the one to lead the assault against Jacob and the ex-Cerberus team, rather than the generic faceless mooks that we actually fought in that mission?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 9, 2016 4:24:30 GMT
There's so much potential in her than just a redhead mini-Liara who feed you fish and wiggle her butt at your face. My headcanon Kelly is the one who didn't show up in ME3. A true Cerberus loyalist, smart, calculating femme fatale, who manipulated Din Korlak into betraying the Turian and got turned into Phantom at the end of the game after she help TIM with his implant procedure. Yeah, might have been interesting to have her turn out to be like Brooks in Citadel. Perhaps we discover in ME3 that the bridge bunny persona of "Kelly Chambers" was merely a cover she adopted to get everyone on the Normandy to lower their guard down around her and that she's even of a loyalist than Miranda was. Would have been cool to see Badass!Kelly in action at some point, perhaps she could even have been the one to lead the assault against Jacob and the ex-Cerberus team, rather than the generic faceless mooks that we actually fought in that mission? I would have hated that, unless the option to turn her against Cerberus and join us was an option. As it stands I am very happy that they kept her, and all LIs and companions really, on your side unless you do something.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 9, 2016 4:27:00 GMT
Would have been cool to see Badass!Kelly in action at some point, perhaps she could even have been the one to lead the assault against Jacob and the ex-Cerberus team, rather than the generic faceless mooks that we actually fought in that mission? That would be interesting. Have some kind of face-to-face with Shepard. Maybe the power of Shepard's dialogue could convince Kelly to stand down?
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 9, 2016 7:49:30 GMT
She was at the Citadel prior to the coup attempt. She could have been easily one of the sleeper agent. Or the Phantom with Kai Leng.
Having someone from Cerberus that you know and really turning them against Shepard could have made the narrative less jarring and personal. It was stupid how everyone insist that its not the organization they remembered and how they couldn't see it coming and you supposed to be sympathetic with that rather than "I told you so". This is better alternative than another ME3 girl killing herself if Shepard disagree with her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 9, 2016 17:42:50 GMT
She was at the Citadel prior to the coup attempt. She could have been easily one of the sleeper agent. Or the Phantom with Kai Leng. Having someone from Cerberus that you know and really turning them against Shepard could have made the narrative less jarring and personal. It was stupid how everyone insist that its not the organization they remembered and how they couldn't see it coming and you supposed to be sympathetic with that rather than "I told you so". This is better alternative than another ME3 girl killing herself if Shepard disagree with her. In this idea of yours, would you be able to turn her away from Cerberus? If not, then no it is objectively worse than "another ME3 girl killing herself if Shepard disagree with her" since there is no choice or options to avoid that.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 9, 2016 20:26:54 GMT
In this idea of yours, would you be able to turn her away from Cerberus? If not, then no it is objectively worse than "another ME3 girl killing herself if Shepard disagree with her" since there is no choice or options to avoid that. I am merely addressing her alternate Miss Refugee Volunteer path which is her complete absence in ME3. It was likely she returned to Cerberus and probably be processed. However, I would have love it if she have an appearance role regardless but with a darker path based on the consequences of ME2. Her mission in ME2 is to spy for the Illusive Man. Someone planted the hidden camera in the ship and EDI confirmed that everyone is under surveillance. She studied the crew's behavior. She have a way at putting Shepard's guard down. The scene could still be at the refugee center but except for Kelly exclaiming that she survived after the coup, you'll have people gossiping about when Cerberus come for them, Kelly casually kill all the guards and join the troops to take Presidium. Like a real Cerberus sleeper agent in action.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 21, 2016 9:18:12 GMT
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