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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 17:32:39 GMT
I wouldn't be so confident in this technological terror you've imagined, goish.
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Post by goishen on Mar 27, 2017 17:33:55 GMT
Trust me, if I wanted to insult him, he would be feeling it. You really need to watch your attitude. Why, you gonna beat me up?
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Post by smilesja on Mar 27, 2017 17:36:40 GMT
You really need to watch your attitude. Why, you gonna beat me up? Really I'm trying to help you. I don't know what your issue is, but you gotta tone it down. Saying that stuff to a mod won't end well. Trust me, I've said nasty things to a mod that got me banned from a forum I liked.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 17:38:11 GMT
Now kith.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Mar 27, 2017 17:40:11 GMT
Trust me, if I wanted to insult him, he would be feeling it. If you did, you would be feeling it. Like I said, keep the personal shit out of it, and don't break rules & expectations. Beyond that it's a world of possibilities.
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Post by goishen on Mar 27, 2017 17:40:21 GMT
Why, you gonna beat me up? Really I'm trying to help you. I don't know what your issue is, but you gotta tone it down. Saying that stuff to a mod won't end well. Trust me, I've said nasty things to a mod that got me banned from a forum I liked. Just let me worry about me, okay?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 17:46:41 GMT
It's a trap! My Ryder got roofied by Dutch. That Dutch, not our Dutch.
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Post by griffith82 on Mar 27, 2017 17:50:06 GMT
I think the technical side of things, the animation issues etc are just the tip of the iceberg, are surface level for why people are dissapointed. They dont really strike at the core of the main cause(s) of the disappointment imo. As ive said previously I think many people have been put off & ultimately disappointed by the... * Fan fiction level, cringe af, tween, inane, Z-list hack writing * Badly delivered, stilted dialogue. * Rehashed, reused, nonsensical, self contradicting and very contrived plot that lacks any new, interesting or refreshing takes on meaty political and cultral intrigue n exploration and richness one would expect of being set in such a epic, far off new setting with this large a scope. * Lore pretty much retconned/ignored and too much of what should be important info and questions just hand waved away * Asking for way too much suspension of disbelief * Poor world building * MMO style fetch quests(with automated game mechanics etc) * Shit teir side quests * Too much asset reuse and even using assets found on image search, instead of creating their own * Broken AI * Tons of content but with no depth to it(wide as an ocean deep as a puddle syndrome) etc * Then the most damning thing no doubt for many people(myself included) though, which likely put ppl off and caused great disappointment.. Is that Mass Effect Andromeda it continues DA:I's singleplayer MMO structure.(And that to me is a complete no go, as I feel like an MMO structure is just admitting defeat of single-player game design, showing that the player is just there for a streamlined grind. Its a design by committee feel to things. And it's a wrong formula to follow, especially so for Mass Effect. Honestly i cant believe how anybody at Bioware, all the interns and writers who cant write who made this game could be happy with the finished product they're putting out here for us. It decidedly does not cut the musturd in 2017, in a post Mass Effect 2, Fallout: New Vegas and post Witcher 3 world. Its just not good enough). I think really the real problem with the game is that its devs Bioware Montreal made a poor game for a series that frankly required excellence as that is what the previous games(ME2 especially) were. Excellent. So basically the same complaints that people have against every BioWare game? This so much this! People have gripped about this about as much as the Star Wars writing. It gets old quick.
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Post by anacronian on Mar 27, 2017 17:51:30 GMT
It's a trap! My Ryder got roofied by Dutch. That Dutch, not our Dutch. No!!! not a trap..would I lie to you? puu.sh/uZvtS/391962e107.png
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 27, 2017 17:55:49 GMT
Maybe your next post could be a video that shows all of the reasons why people are happy with it?
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Post by R1Outcast on Mar 27, 2017 18:12:29 GMT
The bigger question is why people's standards are so low they end up liking a game this unpolished. My standards in life aren't to dissect everything i play nor replaying the same content over and over until i've collected enough bugs to make a video with. My standards aren't to deny others the pleasure and the dignity to like a product i hate. I do hate cheese for the most part... i'll bug everybody in the world till they stop eating cheese! My standards isn't related to "polish" nor in my video games nor in cars. I want to sit in front of my screen smiling and calling my mates over saying: "Come here, look at that. So pretty. Who needs to go in space anymore " My stardards include smiling at my pals and enjoying my life playing games. Very not to lecture others. Obviously my standards are subpar and i'm sorry about that.
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Post by Eterna on Mar 27, 2017 19:03:19 GMT
Would you ass holes please shut up about the TW3? Why? You have to compare to the best, if you want to be the best. There is no other way for BioWare. Despite your peoples insistence to the contrary, TW3 is not the be all end all of everything RPG. I am unsure as to where this mentality of "there can only be one" originated from but it is very silly. Mass Effect and Bioware as a whole can co exist just fine with CDPR, Especially since this genre is really lacking in games right now.
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Post by Camel on Mar 27, 2017 19:20:46 GMT
Oh this thread again! My two year old lets things go quicker than you lot, and is more mature about it. And she cries less - even when we stopped her using her brand new scooter indoors she got over it better than some on here (and it's the same posters over and over again). Surely you have better things to do with your lives? You need some anger management really bad. Why are you playing a stupid videogame since surely "you have better things to do with your lives"?
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Post by shechinah on Mar 27, 2017 19:34:07 GMT
This. A thousand times this. I think I'm gonna save this and bring it up any time someone defends this dumpster fire. And be met with: "Ah, I have to disagree. Personally, I really enjoyed the game. I know others might not but differences of opinion and tastes, you know. " Oh, I'm sorry, did you expect this to invalidate other people's enjoyment of the game and change their opinion? Because a wall of text isn't going to do that if people liked or love the game. There were cities of texts back around the times of the ending(s) and people still came away from that liking or loving the endings and disliking or hating the endings. There was and still is not a uniformed opinion about the ending(s) despite those cities. Having a difference of opinion does not mean that someone has to be wrong: people like different things. Some people like blood orange and others do not: this does not mean that either party has bad taste, just that they have different tastes. You don't like Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. You hate Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. I like Mass Effect: Andromeda. That's also fine. I love Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's also fine. We simply have different opinions and tastes in games. This isn't a war we need to wage: it's a video game. We may want different things and our feedback might reflect that but there's no reason to start insulting and attacking each other over this. We can have civil conversations and discussions. Direct our feedback at the developers, share and discuss it with other. There's nothing constructive or positive to be gained from making the forums hostile by putting each other down. This applies across the board both to people who feel negatively towards the game and people who feel positively towards the game.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 27, 2017 19:37:03 GMT
Oh this thread again! My two year old lets things go quicker than you lot, and is more mature about it. And she cries less - even when we stopped her using her brand new scooter indoors she got over it better than some on here (and it's the same posters over and over again). Surely you have better things to do with your lives? You need some anger management really bad. Why are you playing a stupid videogame since surely "you have better things to do with your lives"? The original fallout games are better than the witcher 3
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 19:39:41 GMT
Yup, this 'heroic' fight ruined Krogan for me. Bravo BW! You guys are unbelievable. WHY BW, WHY!? This is Korgan FFS, not space Kitty fight. How about Morda put out a shotgun and blow his head right off?
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Post by Camel on Mar 27, 2017 19:47:59 GMT
Yup, this 'heroic' fight ruined Krogan for me. Bravo BW! You guys are unbelievable. WHY BW, WHY!? This is Korgan FFS, not space Kitty fight. How about Morda put out a shotgun and blow his head right off? Compare this shit to the Krogans of ME2 & ME3. Giving you a friendly headbutt. I mean look at this! One cut scene with Grunt in ME3 beats all MEA. Music, animation, goddamn dialogue are just a level above Andromeda. Or this
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 19:58:12 GMT
Yup, this 'heroic' fight ruined Krogan for me. Bravo BW! You guys are unbelievable. WHY BW, WHY!? This is Korgan FFS, not space Kitty fight. How about Morda put out a shotgun and blow his head right off? Compare this shit to the Krogans of ME2 & ME3. Giving you a friendly headbutt. I mean look at this! One cut scene with Grunt in ME3 beats all MEA. Music, animation, goddamn dialogue just a level above Andromeda. Or this MEA is indeed a farewell to milky way galaxy. BW finally did the impossible - ruined Asari, Turian and Krogan IN A SINGLE GAME. Bravo! New Tuchanka is so beautiful and unique, yet the main story line ends with a kitty fight... WTF? WHY?
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Post by colfoley on Mar 27, 2017 20:18:19 GMT
I think the technical side of things, the animation issues etc are just the tip of the iceberg, are surface level for why people are dissapointed. They dont really strike at the core of the main cause(s) of the disappointment imo. As ive said previously I think many people have been put off & ultimately disappointed by the... * Fan fiction level, cringe af, tween, inane, Z-list hack writing * Badly delivered, stilted dialogue. * Rehashed, reused, nonsensical, self contradicting and very contrived plot that lacks any new, interesting or refreshing takes on meaty political and cultral intrigue n exploration and richness one would expect of being set in such a epic, far off new setting with this large a scope. * Lore pretty much retconned/ignored and too much of what should be important info and questions just hand waved away * Asking for way too much suspension of disbelief * Poor world building * MMO style fetch quests(with automated game mechanics etc) * Shit teir side quests * Too much asset reuse and even using assets found on image search, instead of creating their own * Broken AI * Tons of content but with no depth to it(wide as an ocean deep as a puddle syndrome) etc * Then the most damning thing no doubt for many people(myself included) though, which likely put ppl off and caused great disappointment.. Is that Mass Effect Andromeda it continues DA:I's singleplayer MMO structure.(And that to me is a complete no go, as I feel like an MMO structure is just admitting defeat of single-player game design, showing that the player is just there for a streamlined grind. Its a design by committee feel to things. And it's a wrong formula to follow, especially so for Mass Effect. Honestly i cant believe how anybody at Bioware, all the interns and writers who cant write who made this game could be happy with the finished product they're putting out here for us. It decidedly does not cut the musturd in 2017, in a post Mass Effect 2, Fallout: New Vegas and post Witcher 3 world. Its just not good enough). I think really the real problem with the game is that its devs Bioware Montreal made a poor game for a series that frankly required excellence as that is what the previous games(ME2 especially) were. Excellent. i hate the argument that the quest structure of any single player game is mmo ish. There is no such thing especially when single player games have been doing this kind of things all along. And I'm just baffled once again genuinely baffled because even ignoring the stuff about mmos... I disagree with everything you say... Minus perhaps the lore building.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 21:06:00 GMT
I think the technical side of things, the animation issues etc are just the tip of the iceberg, are surface level for why people are dissapointed. They dont really strike at the core of the main cause(s) of the disappointment imo. As ive said previously I think many people have been put off & ultimately disappointed by the... * Fan fiction level, cringe af, tween, inane, Z-list hack writing * Badly delivered, stilted dialogue. * Rehashed, reused, nonsensical, self contradicting and very contrived plot that lacks any new, interesting or refreshing takes on meaty political and cultral intrigue n exploration and richness one would expect of being set in such a epic, far off new setting with this large a scope. * Lore pretty much retconned/ignored and too much of what should be important info and questions just hand waved away * Asking for way too much suspension of disbelief * Poor world building * MMO style fetch quests(with automated game mechanics etc) * Shit teir side quests * Too much asset reuse and even using assets found on image search, instead of creating their own * Broken AI * Tons of content but with no depth to it(wide as an ocean deep as a puddle syndrome) etc * Then the most damning thing no doubt for many people(myself included) though, which likely put ppl off and caused great disappointment.. Is that Mass Effect Andromeda it continues DA:I's singleplayer MMO structure.(And that to me is a complete no go, as I feel like an MMO structure is just admitting defeat of single-player game design, showing that the player is just there for a streamlined grind. Its a design by committee feel to things. And it's a wrong formula to follow, especially so for Mass Effect. Honestly i cant believe how anybody at Bioware, all the interns and writers who cant write who made this game could be happy with the finished product they're putting out here for us. It decidedly does not cut the musturd in 2017, in a post Mass Effect 2, Fallout: New Vegas and post Witcher 3 world. Its just not good enough). I think really the real problem with the game is that its devs Bioware Montreal made a poor game for a series that frankly required excellence as that is what the previous games(ME2 especially) were. Excellent. So basically the same ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE complaints that people have against every BioWare game? Made a wee - but pertinent, I think - addition for you.
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Post by goishen on Mar 27, 2017 21:07:05 GMT
The game feels awfully similar to a SW:TOR expansion. Which feels awfully similar to DAI.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 21:09:25 GMT
The game feels awfully similar to a SW:TOR expansion. Which feels awfully similar to DAI. Which is awfully similar to SWTOR.
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Post by Warrick on Mar 27, 2017 21:12:22 GMT
When a piece of entertainment like a game leaves us cold, we tend to be less forgiving. If we really like it, we cut it some slack. If Andromeda had the "scan the keepers" task or some side missions finished with a narrated popup like in ME1, we would be complaining about it.
Nitpicking is a symptom that people are unhappy with the product in general. I think general impressions are more valuable feedback than nitty-gritty analysis.
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Post by heathenoxman on Mar 27, 2017 21:18:52 GMT
This. A thousand times this. I think I'm gonna save this and bring it up any time someone defends this dumpster fire. And be met with: "Ah, I have to disagree. Personally, I really enjoyed the game. I know others might not but differences of opinion and tastes, you know. " Oh, I'm sorry, did you expect this to invalidate other people's enjoyment of the game and change their opinion? Because a wall of text isn't going to do that if people liked or love the game. There were cities of texts back around the times of the ending(s) and people still came away from that liking or loving the endings and disliking or hating the endings. There was and still is not a uniformed opinion about the ending(s) despite those cities. Having a difference of opinion does not mean that someone has to be wrong: people like different things. Some people like blood orange and others do not: this does not mean that either party has bad taste, just that they have different tastes. You don't like Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. You hate Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's fine. I like Mass Effect: Andromeda. That's also fine. I love Mass Effect: Andromeda? That's also fine. We simply have different opinions and tastes in games. This isn't a war we need to wage: it's a video game. We may want different things and our feedback might reflect that but there's no reason to start insulting and attacking each other over this. We can have civil conversations and discussions. Direct our feedback at the developers, share and discuss it with other. There's nothing constructive or positive to be gained from making the forums hostile by putting each other down. This applies across the board both to people who feel negatively towards the game and people who feel positively towards the game. You're attempting to bring rationality into the middle of a shit-flinging fest. "I loved/hated the game, and anyone who disagrees with me is a poopyhead!!" Personally, I like the game, but, seeing as how I'm a long-time sci-fi/fantasy fan, the MET never wowed me with its originality or writing, so my expectations were never that high to begin with.
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