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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 21, 2017 21:24:07 GMT
Reyes Vidal. He's already shown himself to be a lying, manipulative murderer, with access to lots of resources. We know very little about his background. We do know that he was on the Nexus when Garson was murdered. We've also seen that he likes to remain in the shadows and let others be his public figureheads. Plus the writers go out of their way to make sure he survives this game. Even if you try to shoot him, he gets away. They already revealed him to be The Charlatan. No one would suspect a second reveal of him also being The Benefactor. There have been some good theories in this thread that actually I agree with. I'm just throwing this one out there as another possibility. I've been wondering how much do you think Alec knew of the benefactor's thugs? Before leaving for Habitat 7, he mentions to his kids (via his logs) that if something were to happen to him there are "things you are going to find out, I hope you understand." I doubt Alec is referring to his death on 7 (could b precautionary thing if anything did happen on 7, but still doubt he was referring to 7) and considering Garson's datapad saying: "No word from Hyperion. Did they get to Alec to?" I hope its actually its a new figure, regarding Reyes, why then would they make him a potential love interest? Granted it could be Solas 2.0, bait and switch kinda thing, but still. If I had to choose between Quarian Ark dlc or Benefactor dlc (I don't see why though we won't get two dlc's to be honest), I would rather get a Benefactor dlc, it's a hell of a lot more interesting to me then the Quarian Ark. I think Alec was making that as a precaution for whatever happened and referred to all his secrets. Not just the Benefactor, but also things like telling them their mom died when she was really still alive in stasis. Bioware has had multiple LIs become antagonists and/or work for an antagonist so it's not like it is an unique thing they've never done before. I suspect like a lot of their past games for us to get three big DLCs: 1. The Quarian Ark which brings back the rest of the Milky Way aliens and maybe introduce a new villain race(every ME game has done this). 2. A Meridian DLC that opens the planet to be explored and delves further into the Jaardan, the Opposition, and the Scourge. 3. A Benefactor DLC that while it may not reveal who they are it sets it up for future games(Bioware stated that is a plot for the megastory of all the games in Andromeda). |
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Post by duskwanderer on Jun 22, 2017 1:20:41 GMT
I've been wondering how much do you think Alec knew of the benefactor's thugs? Before leaving for Habitat 7, he mentions to his kids (via his logs) that if something were to happen to him there are "things you are going to find out, I hope you understand." I doubt Alec is referring to his death on 7 (could b precautionary thing if anything did happen on 7, but still doubt he was referring to 7) and considering Garson's datapad saying: "No word from Hyperion. Did they get to Alec to?" I hope its actually its a new figure, regarding Reyes, why then would they make him a potential love interest? Granted it could be Solas 2.0, bait and switch kinda thing, but still. If I had to choose between Quarian Ark dlc or Benefactor dlc (I don't see why though we won't get two dlc's to be honest), I would rather get a Benefactor dlc, it's a hell of a lot more interesting to me then the Quarian Ark. I think Alec was making that as a precaution for whatever happened and referred to all his secrets. Not just the Benefactor, but also things like telling them their mom died when she was really still alive in stasis. Bioware has had multiple LIs become antagonists and/or work for an antagonist so it's not like it is an unique thing they've never done before. I suspect like a lot of their past games for us to get three big DLCs: 1. The Quarian Ark which brings back the rest of the Milky Way aliens and maybe introduce a new villain race(every ME game has done this). 2. A Meridian DLC that opens the planet to be explored and delves further into the Jaardan, the Opposition, and the Scourge. 3. A Benefactor DLC that while it may not reveal who they are it sets it up for future games(Bioware stated that is a plot for the megastory of all the games in Andromeda). I'd correct you by saying that I would think, in your case, Meridian's DLC would be the one that introduces a new factor. Also, I'd like to posit this: All of the DLC's you've described would be required to take place in the post-game. While all of the DLC's make sense, ME's DLC has always been main-game specific. Perhaps the high reviews for Trespasser may make BioWARE reconsider, but I would think the first DLC would be something main-game specific. Then, the quarian ship and benefactor could be combined for an expansion pack. BioWARE has been mirroring the Witcher for ideas, and Blood and Wine was considered on par (and possibly surpassing) the main game. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 22, 2017 1:31:38 GMT
I think Alec was making that as a precaution for whatever happened and referred to all his secrets. Not just the Benefactor, but also things like telling them their mom died when she was really still alive in stasis. Bioware has had multiple LIs become antagonists and/or work for an antagonist so it's not like it is an unique thing they've never done before. I suspect like a lot of their past games for us to get three big DLCs: 1. The Quarian Ark which brings back the rest of the Milky Way aliens and maybe introduce a new villain race(every ME game has done this). 2. A Meridian DLC that opens the planet to be explored and delves further into the Jaardan, the Opposition, and the Scourge. 3. A Benefactor DLC that while it may not reveal who they are it sets it up for future games(Bioware stated that is a plot for the megastory of all the games in Andromeda). I'd correct you by saying that I would think, in your case, Meridian's DLC would be the one that introduces a new factor. Also, I'd like to posit this: All of the DLC's you've described would be required to take place in the post-game. While all of the DLC's make sense, ME's DLC has always been main-game specific. Perhaps the high reviews for Trespasser may make BioWARE reconsider, but I would think the first DLC would be something main-game specific. Then, the quarian ship and benefactor could be combined for an expansion pack. BioWARE has been mirroring the Witcher for ideas, and Blood and Wine was considered on par (and possibly surpassing) the main game. That could be too. I was just thinking of possible enemies for the Quarian Ark DLC and it seemed like a golden opportunity to introduce a new threat that will be expanded on in future games. The Meridian DLC if they do one about it I see the enemy being either the Jaardan or Opposition in some way or the Primus(though she could be the villain in the sequel too). The problem with MEA is with how it is written there is nowhere to really put big DLCs, at least not without them being completely ignored by the main game. Now I could see them having a couple big DLCs like I mentioned being post-game and having smaller ones fit into the main game. To use ME2 as an example, DLCs the size of The Price of Revenge or Stolen Memories would be available during the main game while DLCs the size of Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, and Arrival would be post-Meridian. Then again maybe they'll surprise us and pull it off, like Leviathan being reflected in the end of ME3. The Quarian Ark DLC is definitely post-Meridian though. If they did do a huge expansion pack like that, I see more Meridian and Benefactor being tied together. Maybe Meridian or the Jaardan are a reason the Benefactor chose the Heleus Cluster as the destination, along with all the Golden Worlds. |
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Post by duskwanderer on Jun 23, 2017 0:16:36 GMT
I'd correct you by saying that I would think, in your case, Meridian's DLC would be the one that introduces a new factor. Also, I'd like to posit this: All of the DLC's you've described would be required to take place in the post-game. While all of the DLC's make sense, ME's DLC has always been main-game specific. Perhaps the high reviews for Trespasser may make BioWARE reconsider, but I would think the first DLC would be something main-game specific. Then, the quarian ship and benefactor could be combined for an expansion pack. BioWARE has been mirroring the Witcher for ideas, and Blood and Wine was considered on par (and possibly surpassing) the main game. That could be too. I was just thinking of possible enemies for the Quarian Ark DLC and it seemed like a golden opportunity to introduce a new threat that will be expanded on in future games. The Meridian DLC if they do one about it I see the enemy being either the Jaardan or Opposition in some way or the Primus(though she could be the villain in the sequel too). The problem with MEA is with how it is written there is nowhere to really put big DLCs, at least not without them being completely ignored by the main game. Now I could see them having a couple big DLCs like I mentioned being post-game and having smaller ones fit into the main game. To use ME2 as an example, DLCs the size of The Price of Revenge or Stolen Memories would be available during the main game while DLCs the size of Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, and Arrival would be post-Meridian. Then again maybe they'll surprise us and pull it off, like Leviathan being reflected in the end of ME3. The Quarian Ark DLC is definitely post-Meridian though. If they did do a huge expansion pack like that, I see more Meridian and Benefactor being tied together. Maybe Meridian or the Jaardan are a reason the Benefactor chose the Heleus Cluster as the destination, along with all the Golden Worlds. I can see that. I prefer mine because I like MW races over Andromeda's, but I wouldn't object to yours. Maybe they should hire us to write it.  |
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Post by Monica21 on Jun 25, 2017 16:46:17 GMT
Reyes Vidal. He's already shown himself to be a lying, manipulative murderer, with access to lots of resources. We know very little about his background. We do know that he was on the Nexus when Garson was murdered. We've also seen that he likes to remain in the shadows and let others be his public figureheads. Plus the writers go out of their way to make sure he survives this game. Even if you try to shoot him, he gets away. They already revealed him to be The Charlatan. No one would suspect a second reveal of him also being The Benefactor. There have been some good theories in this thread that actually I agree with. I'm just throwing this one out there as another possibility. I was kind of wondering about this myself. Not only has Bioware set him up already, but your crewmates constantly remind you that "he's a liar, and liar's don't just stop lying" or whatever it was that Vetra said. Even if he isn't the one who killed Garson, he's being set up as someone you can't trust. |
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Post by gplayer on Jun 25, 2017 18:03:18 GMT
Reyes is an interesting theory. But I am just glad people have stopped suggesting it was TIM. TIM was singularly possessed with the idea of controlling the reapers. If AI was his contingency plan it would have not included aliens and would not have been so completely unarmed.
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