Not curing the Genophage: The reason you're a heartless monster.

Maybe we should agree on what the stereotype is we're arguing against. I'm arguing against the "overly aggressive mindless brute" sterotype that the Salarian STG team seemed to have about Wrex in ME1 and Dalitrass has in ME3 (I assume the leash comment from STG was just hyperbole).

Are you arguing against child abuse? Is that the reason to deploy the Genophage?

That main bit is from the main "Krogan" codex, I think.

Before taking over other colony planets, they were given the rachni worlds they conquered.

Compared to any other civilizations in the galaxy it absolutely is. If one Krogan has a problem with another and particularly a leader the only way to resolve it is at muzzle velocity. Wrex even says the greatest insult a Krogan can give is to tell someone they are not worth killing.

Let us also not forget the entire power structure of Krogan society is based on leader of the clan. Who wields absolute power over that clan.

I like this guy Dombrow. They need more like him so all of their choices don't bludgeon you with one sided pity party if you aren't going the developers' preferred route.

As for Rannoch, given the copout "peace" option, I'd wonder who of anyone would pick just the geth as a first choice. The "peace" option that makes it to where there's really no roleplay reason for choosing just the geth other than "I didn't do enough video game garbage to enable my Shepard to not be a total retard who forgets to relay basic information on Geth-Reaper upgrade status to allies", or "teh evulz".

Destroying the geth makes sense from certain reasonable perspectives; you oppose or don't trust the safety of the Reaper upgrade garbage, don't want to enslave or endanger the quarians just so the "geth" (read: new, completely different individualized Reaper construct things) can "live" , or are betting on the already clearly violent reaperized "geth" constructs turning hostile once the Reapers don't threaten them, but people with these sorts of concerns probably don't really care about the supposed "personhood" of the geth anyway. Thus it becomes less a moral dilema and more a gameplay one for most people of doing whatever it takes to get get the "peace" option.

The Wrex-Eve cure outcome gets pretty close to also being a copout, but it is at least alluded to (by Garrus) that all might not be so rosy if Wrex gets killed by a power hungry rival (the whole "food taster" comment), as is presumably common in krogan politics. Indeed, Wrex fights with one such potential userper at the beggining of the very mission centered around the cure (Wreav). There was supposed to initially be some stuff suggesting things were not all well with the Rannoch "peace" thing too (Xen attempting to unilaterally gain control of the geth if the quarians live, citing that she would not "become a slave to our own synthetics"), but they cut it down to basically one Email from Raan about the quarians and geth still keeping their troops segregated for fear of violent incidents, and one dialouge option to express concern about the danger of the (patently ridiculous) "geth uploading into envirosuits" thing.

I find that a little strange tbh (not criticising their positions of course). I almost always take the "good" (or paragon) choice in any RPG I play, but I just can't see that in this case. I can see how it would give you a sense of altruism to have saved a race, but its ultimate effects on practically everyone else in the galaxy seem mostly negative.

I can't think of any government that would consider foreigners forcibly controlling their population growth without their consent as anything other than an act of war. Individuals, or small groups might accept such interference if they trust the outsiders, but no government would. Maintaining the Genophage, and lying to the Krogan about it, is only going to make them enemies, when they are currently potential allies. If you're not committed to eventually just exterminating the Krogan, the ultimate effect will be fighting them when they do overcome the Genophage and seek retribution.

Attacking and being "dumbass brutes" are two different things. You can call it revenge, or you can call it retaliation. Maintaining the Genophage has its downside for the galaxy, unless, like I said, you just outright destroy the Krogan completely. It doesn't take a real leap of logic to realize that a future functioning Krogan government will have to retaliate to an attack like the Genophage, especially one from a group, the Council, with now as much distrust as Shepard's betrayal will sew. It would be the response of the Humans if, say, the Turians launched a bioweapon like that. Its similar to the reason Torfan happened. That's part of why there is such an outcry about being forced to work with the Catalyst in the Decision Chamber instead of just being able to outright kill it, though those of you who picked Destroy sort of prove my point.

I don't like the idea of antagonising them further, but really, even under Wrex, we see that they do not really feel the need to exist peaceably alongside the other races. Fundamentally their culture just does not value peace, and I seriously doubt Wrex and Eve have the ability to change that.

I chose to go with the real and tangible means to limit their threat to everyone else in the galaxy, rather than cure the Genophage on the hope that they will change.

(Edit: To conclude and answer your post, I think chances of their actually becoming allies are slim, even under Wrex).

The point is the Krogan can be reasoned with, but looks like you think Weryloc clan is indicative of the Krogan, and not some extremist group.

Ever notice how many of the Krogan on their home planet do not fit the stereoptype to a T.  We have one "dad" Krogan talking rather emotionally about being a father.  We see Char (the poetry reciting Krogan) and his Asari wife on the landing platform of Tuchanka in ME2.  We meet the Shaman, the Ambassador of Clan Nakmor, the mechanic.  In all the Krogan we see on Tuchanka, only two are "butting heads" with each other.  Even Uvenk hasn't pulled out a gun and shot Wrex... despite clearly disagreeing with everything he does.  Krogan are not passive, to be sure.  They believe in different things, speak up for what they believe in and argue, verbally, about it.  Are we so different here?

The Krogan numbers are not what the other races in the galaxy find so scary about them.  They have 1/5th the overall population of any of the other races.  They're simple not passive and not willing to be dominated by the council races... so they've used the genophage to keep the Krogan at a numerical DISADVANTAGE (not numerical parity).  They don't want all the other races to get the idea that they don't have to just blindly accept the Council's la la viewpoint on everything.  The Council have never stopped being at war with the Krogan... The genophage is not a means to prevent war, it's a means of continuing to wage a "bloodless" war.

Uta is the Female Clan leader. Wrex's main set up is providing a place that keeps female safe so other clans rally around him.