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Post by Fogg on Aug 16, 2017 0:13:26 GMT
People! Because this thread got a reanimating bump I reread it myself and have to add something. Getting into stasis within a pod is very easy and can be done by yourself without help from anybody. Every suspect that was still in stasis during the murder could've gotten out his/her pod and back in for the official awakening. Especially if it was all planned.
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Post by phoray on Aug 27, 2017 0:51:42 GMT
After reading this thread I like Original Shadow Broker, the Geth, or Reyes.
Not Addison. Such a screw up.
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Post by dazk on Aug 27, 2017 3:30:25 GMT
After reading this thread I like Original Shadow Broker, the Geth, or Reyes. Not Addison. Such a screw up. I like the Geth/SAM theory
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Post by antmarch456 on Oct 28, 2017 2:09:26 GMT
Can we get a list of all the possible suspects?
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Post by burnsidhe on Oct 28, 2017 3:03:28 GMT
There are two factions of Geth. One faction sided with Nazara. The other faction rejected that.
Both factions are aware of the Reaper's plans. Geth think in terms of backups. The Andromeda Initiative was a way to 'back up' galactic civilization, by sending seed-stock to another galaxy for later retrieval.
In addition, it's a perfect way to study people, by throwing them into an uncertain situation and observing what happens. They did not anticipate the Scourge, and without a link to the greater Geth collective, the local geth housed in the Nexus proceeded according to their programmed parameters. Even before they hit the Scourge, they were going to destabilize the leadership and see what resulted, without harming the Initiative too much.
It's apparent that the Scourge is difficult to see on sensors, otherwise it'd have been really effing obvious that something was wrong.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 28, 2017 5:10:16 GMT
It's apparent that the Scourge is difficult to see on sensors, otherwise it'd have been really effing obvious that something was wrong. The Scourge was a recent thing that happened after the Andromeda Initiative left the Milky Way. That's why the Golden Worlds were not like what they were when we left.
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Post by burnsidhe on Oct 29, 2017 2:33:06 GMT
Yes, but if the Scourge were easy to see on sensors, NONE of the starships would have run into it.
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Post by melbella on Oct 29, 2017 4:02:21 GMT
Something happened to the sensors in-transit. It's in the book re: the Nexus, it's in the logs for the Hyperion, and I think in the logs for another ark, maybe the asari one? Something was already going haywire before they ever got to Andromeda.
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Post by Fogg on Oct 29, 2017 21:44:53 GMT
Something happened to the sensors in-transit. It's in the book re: the Nexus, it's in the logs for the Hyperion, and I think in the logs for another ark, maybe the asari one? Something was already going haywire before they ever got to Andromeda. I think that's just there to give the Arks a reason to be shattered around the cluster. For story reasons in the game.
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Post by melbella on Oct 29, 2017 22:16:19 GMT
Something happened to the sensors in-transit. It's in the book re: the Nexus, it's in the logs for the Hyperion, and I think in the logs for another ark, maybe the asari one? Something was already going haywire before they ever got to Andromeda. I think that's just there to give the Arks a reason to be shattered around the cluster. For story reasons in the game. Possibly, but it's quite a coincidence. It also provides reason why no one detected the Scourge before running headlong into it. It's possible with working sensors they could have noticed something, at least enough to stop/slow down/alter course and investigate first.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Oct 30, 2017 14:13:39 GMT
I think that's just there to give the Arks a reason to be shattered around the cluster. For story reasons in the game. Possibly, but it's quite a coincidence. It also provides reason why no one detected the Scourge before running headlong into it. It's possible with working sensors they could have noticed something, at least enough to stop/slow down/alter course and investigate first. There's a datapad on the Hyperion that's a little suspect right at the start of the game. I'll have to find it, but it's a log entry of a bunch of errors that pop up on a variety of systems and I want to say that sensors is one of them.
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Post by obatalaryder on Nov 6, 2017 5:18:34 GMT
I think more than anything after continuously looking at this case -- what's really confounding me is why would someone need Jien Garsen to be murdered?
In terms of the murder being toted for a succession of leadership this theory is entirely useless, given the fact Garsen steps down as the director and from any real performative role once reaching Andromeda. The Director is actually an Asari who ends up getting killed in her cryopod by the Scourge.
If it's because Garsen has knowledge of the actual reasons as to why they left the the Milky way, why would that matter after already arriving in Andromeda? Any 634-year reason for leaving is moot. Telling everyone it was because of the Reapers would do nothing to the fact that they're stuck in Andromeda and have to make new home.
The more you think about it, the more you realize the insistent, methodical need for someone to hunt after Garsen so feverishly moments after arriving in Andromeda bears a thinking this has to be more than what we've been given and what is put in front of us to investigate at face-value.
Not to mention the fact Garsen's murder alters literally nothing. It didn't matter if she died by the Scourge or by someone elae's hands, her death didn't alter anything that the Scourge didn't (The Scourge actually helps inadvertently in obscuring her murder, too). The only tanigble thing the Initiative lost was an idealist, iconic, almost religious face who literally came up with the idea to come here in the first place. Basically spiritual morale. Also the creepy as hell fact that the killer is literally walking around somewhere on the Nexus and wherever they went subsequently like they didn't just kill Garsen. Putting up a facade in the face of everything. And most importantly hasn't done anything to benefit off the death of Garsen in any significant manner after the body was found. No usurp of power or opportunity. The AI is actually a complete mess and everyone on the Nexus are in immediate danger of dying.
The only significant momentum anyone can go on is that killer was awake when Garsen and a slew of other up-top people had to be at an arrival ceremony. That means the killer/s were in a cryopod, maybe? had to be awakened by someone else, etc. the whole thing. If I'm not mistaken the first to be awakened on immediate arrival were the senior leadership and anyone that had to be at the arrival ceremony, which I assume to be a very small group of people.
This is actually the best and most reliable space to speculate, because in this short time span there exists actual evidence of what our killer/s potentially was and what they were doing. They were awakened with senior leadership and able to move around before the Nexus hits the Scourge.
So again...
It's really perplexing.
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Post by obatalaryder on Nov 6, 2017 5:26:49 GMT
And as far as picking out of a present lineup, Reyes continues to be my favorite suspect.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 6, 2017 13:35:56 GMT
Possibly, but it's quite a coincidence. It also provides reason why no one detected the Scourge before running headlong into it. It's possible with working sensors they could have noticed something, at least enough to stop/slow down/alter course and investigate first. There's a datapad on the Hyperion that's a little suspect right at the start of the game. I'll have to find it, but it's a log entry of a bunch of errors that pop up on a variety of systems and I want to say that sensors is one of them. I just restarted a new playthrough and that datapad is right before going to the tram door after you wake up in cryo-bay, on the left near a station. It shows sensors array issues at 3 different times through the 600 years. The first time was like a year after departing, but it was auto-repaired. The second time was 200 years after and the auto-repair failed (either SAM woke up a technician to repair them or they went 400 years without sensors at 100%). The last time was the year they arrived in Andromeda and most probably when they collided with the Scourge going by the other logs entries and year. The datapad also shows when communication was lost with the other arks which is even more suspicious.
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Post by link2twenty on Dec 1, 2017 14:41:34 GMT
It had never occurred to me the Geth could be the Benefactor... In a cryptocurrency future, the Geth would be able to generate funds crazy fast. Weren't the original Andromeda scans from the Geth too?
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Post by Fogg on Dec 25, 2017 23:17:46 GMT
It had never occurred to me the Geth could be the Benefactor... In a cryptocurrency future, the Geth would be able to generate funds crazy fast. Weren't the original Andromeda scans from the Geth too? Yes, but they weren't interested in Andromeda themselves. It was bycatch.
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