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Post by bigdawg13 on May 1, 2017 18:10:00 GMT
First play through I took Drack and you feel absolutely compelled to go save the scouts. They are there and Drack knows about them. He practically begs you to save them.
But the next play through I left him on the Tempest. There is almost no reason to go save them. There you are, on the ship. You know the Salarians are there. They saved you and now they need help. Then SAM pipes up and says "oh by the way, I sense Krogan life signs on the ship". Someone says "those might be Drack's scouts". You have absolutely no idea what state they are in. Are they on the cutting table all cut open dying. Are they in some comatose vegetative state. You don't know. But you do know that the Salarians are there. I'm sorry, but without Drack there telling you it's the scouts you'd be crazy not to go save the Salarians. You've seen them and know they can be saved. You know nothing about the scouts other than they are detectable by SAM. Not worth the risk IMHO. Who in their right mind would put their team at risk over a maybe over a certainty?
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Post by sungrey on May 1, 2017 18:51:45 GMT
In my first play through I chose to save the krogan scouts. But I realize now that it makes more sense to save the salarian Pathfinder. With Raeka, you only have one Pathfinder with any experience working with SAM (unless you also spare Sarissa) and it would be a bad idea to have the neural implant technology fall into enemy hands. Plus, you can help the krogan in bigger ways on Elaaden.
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Post by DarkBeaver on May 1, 2017 21:13:49 GMT
I chose the Salarians because I figured any Krogan that would allow himself to be captured isnt worth saving.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 1, 2017 21:25:55 GMT
Nope. I had no problem with choosing the salarian over the krogan Same here. I did everything else for the Krogan to make them happy. A few scouts are not more important than an expert in xenobiology and a Pathfinder.
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Post by Obadiah on May 1, 2017 22:01:10 GMT
I picked the Salarians only because I thought they were civilians, but the Krogan scouts weren't. Felt pretty bad about it though.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 1, 2017 23:16:39 GMT
Raeka is awesome, and as much as I love Drack, I will save my Pathfinder Mom every time.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 2, 2017 0:18:55 GMT
I save the scouts, with the idea that I don't want the Archon to have access to more krogan to exalt, since he'd already shown he'd pretty much figured out how to do that. I don't want him having access to a krogan army. At least with the salarians, he seems a ways off from being able to incorporate them into exaltation, and I'm taking his supply out from under him. Plus Raeka says she doubts she'll make it - what's the guarantee for Ryder that she'll still be alive by the time they can reach her? At least the scouts are still alive to rescue.
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Post by jeyl on May 2, 2017 12:10:19 GMT
Plus Raeka says she doubts she'll make it - what's the guarantee for Ryder that she'll still be alive by the time they can reach her? At least the scouts are still alive to rescue. Thing about being a hero is that you don't simply not do something when it starts sounding bad.
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Post by themikefest on May 2, 2017 12:15:03 GMT
what's the guarantee for Ryder that she'll still be alive by the time they can reach her? At least the scouts are still alive to rescue. The same can be said for the krogan. They could be dead by the time you reach them just as raeka could be dead by the time you reach her.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 6:51:59 GMT
Raeka is also a close friend of Ryder's father, which could be a reason for Ryder to save her. Heck, she might even have some insights on the Benefactor.
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Post by liquidsnake on May 3, 2017 13:53:06 GMT
I felt horribly for not saving the Krogan scouts and leaving them for exaltation. However, I also couldn't leave Raeka behind who had just risked her life to save us and the civilian Salarians. The Krogan were warriors. They knew the dangers of their role as scouts. The Salarians were scientists who were ambushed and had no choice. In addition, the Salarians went to great lengths to make sure Raeka was not discovered by the Kett and stayed alive because of how important she was. In addition to the Salarian civilian deaths, it would have made every individual that sacrificed themselves to make sure she lived die in vain.
Finally, I dismissed Sarissa as Pathfinder for abandoning Ishara and leaving her for dead. It would have been extremely hypocritical of me to do the same thing and leave Raeka behind after all she had done to help me in that mission.
This also was all after I completed Elaaden's quest line and sided with the Krogan, making Addision promise to take their side in negotiations with Tann and providing them with the Remnant drive core. If Drack doesn't get over it and have my back in the future, then I know he was never a fully loyal companion, let alone friend, and I would have been disappointed by him later on anyway.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on May 5, 2017 19:40:37 GMT
i choose to save the krogan scouts because if you think about it from a tactical perspective, Raeka but herself in a situation that she could easily be dead by the time we get to her. she was in a fierce fire fight that she said she more than likely not be able to get out of there. so she could easily be dead by the time you show up, so now you lost the pathfinder, whatever salarians that were trying to be saved, and the krogan scouts. (im kinda mad that when you go to save raeka she is fine and got out of the situation before you get to her. so why she couldnt do that before had i dont know.) at least with the krogan scouts we know that we can save them in time, and we already are saving the salarian ark, if it was only an equal number of slaraians to rescue it would be a very unfair choice.
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Post by ergates on May 5, 2017 20:03:12 GMT
I saved the Salarians, and felt no guilt at all. Drack chewed my ass over it, but it was my call to make, and I stand by the decision. I'd have done it again in the same situation. Being a leader means that sometimes tough choices have to be made under difficult circumstances. Not everyone is going to like it, but these decisions still need to be made. The mission must always come first. The hard, pragmatic truth of the matter is, a highly-trained, experienced Pathfinder is far more of an asset than a handful of scouts. In any case Drack soon got over it. I'd already earned plenty of points with him for helping his people, and supporting the Krogan colony. In any case at the end of the game Drack adored me, because I chose Morda to be the representative
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Post by feuerrabe on May 5, 2017 21:18:26 GMT
Hm. I don't think there is anything no really good choice to make in this situation. You save one but let the other group die. Either way you let someone down.
I didn't think all too long about it. I didn't want to make a qualitative judgement who is more worth saving. No one deserved to end in that horror cabinet. So tried myself in a quantitative decision - it did sound like there were more of Drack's scouts on the line than were Salarians on with the pathfinder, so I saved the Krogan. It was a bit frustrating to let just another pathfinder down - in my game each and every pathfinder was replaced at least once, the asari pathfinder twice. But if I had chosen to save the Salarians it wouldn't have made anything better.
Don't know how Drack reacts if you don't save his people. But it's definitely not his place to second guess that kind of decision. You're in the field, can save only one faction and you need to decide now. Of course Ryder does not have that military attitude that Shepard had, but in situations such as this, when you have to make sacrifices in an armed conflict, it's probably the most applicable attitude.
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Post by dazk on May 26, 2017 7:26:07 GMT
Save the salarians instead of the krogan. My first time I saved the krogan but this time I wanted to try the slarians instead. I felt horrible for no other reason then drack's response. Poor guy. Anyone else have this and will never choose the salarians again Well I am on my 4th play through and just did this mission. On my other 3 I have always saved the Krogan because I didn't want more exalted Krogan but on this play through I thought hang on I just fought an exalted Krogan so the Kett can do more Kraogan anyway if they capture them like they did the scouts. I also wanted to save Reeka for a change. Spoke to Drack and I was like OMG what a complete over reaction by Drack. Hundreds of salarians already died on the Kett ship and he is dismissing my decision as some sort of bias yet I had supported the Krogan with all my other decisions and already had Dracks full loyalty. The whole thing left me feeling really shitty with the way it was written. Drack should have been pissed off with HIS scouts for getting caught more than me deciding not to save them given my previous decisions with the drive core etc and his lifespan and experience in battle. Just seemed an extreme piece of writing based on Drack's history. Actually just really pissed me off.
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Post by ProbeAway on May 26, 2017 7:49:15 GMT
Why are people talking about a krogan army? There's only a handful of scouts. They aren't going to make a meaningful difference in the was against the Kett. The main reason to choose the krogan (aside from keeping Drack happy) is that otherwise you're leaving them to a fate worse than death.
I saved Raeka because of her importance to the Initiative and the fact that she already risked her own life to help Ryder's team and the salarian captives. The only thing I regret was not having the opportunity to explain my choice to Drack after he basically accused me of discriminating against the krogan. Of course, if and when I do another run I'll grab the scouts for the sake of doing things differently.
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Post by zeypher on May 26, 2017 12:26:06 GMT
Krogan can go get wrecked, saved them the first time. This time went with Raeka and saving her every time now as she is extremely valuable compared to random scouts. besides Dracks reaction after that made it clear, Krogan only care about themselves and their clan first, thats it and they will never ever integrate with the other species properly. It was a stupid idea to bring them in the first place.
Finally I am an Initiative pathfinder which means Initiative gets first priority than the scouts who already broke off from the nexus. Think the value changes depending on when one does the mission, this time i did it just after getting the transmitter and so hadn't even reached Eladeen.
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Post by kalasaurus on May 26, 2017 21:30:43 GMT
Not really. Drack never talked about his scouts in any dialogue with Ryder before this mission. It can come up in some banter (which is easy to miss), but otherwise no mention. He even tells Ryder he's a loner in his first conversation. The scouts came out of nowhere in the story, so any emotional weight to the decision was lost. I didn't care. I'm going to save them this round just to see what happens, though.
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Post by gplayer on May 28, 2017 7:29:32 GMT
So I am not a fan of the Salarians. Priority: Sur'Kesh in ME3 does a good job of showing their manipulative side. They play god with other species and manipulate the circumstances to keep their hands clean. It would have been one thing if they learned their lesson with uplifting the Krogan, but on Sur'Kesh you see their work continuing on the Yahg, varren and so on.
That being said, I tried to play Andromeda as a fresh start or blank slate. I did not read any of the books (nor should I need to) so I disliked the way Morda talked to me. Even if there was an injustice they suffered she could have explained the situation to me and tried to show a modicum of diplomacy. She's no Wrex thats for sure. So when its decision time on the Archon's ship this is how I weigh things. At this point in the game I have: 1. Fixed Elaadan's vaults 2. Saved the Krogan chief botanist and the seed vault 3. Given the Krogan the remnant drive core 4. Exposed Spender and set record straight on the Nexus.
At this point I feel like I don't owe the Krogan anything - so when the decision is the Salarian pathfinder + civilians versus a handful of Krogan scouts, its a no brainer. From what I have seen in the game (I don't read the codex since BW will retcon it anyway later) the Kett reproduce through indoctrination. sorry I meant exaltation. That is why they capture people alive. There was nothing to indicate they have cloning facilities and would be able to create any more exalted Krogans beyond the numbers that were available on that ship.
Do they ever explain why Krogan scouts were on the Salarian ark to begin with?
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Post by correctamundo on May 28, 2017 8:47:08 GMT
Do they ever explain why Krogan scouts were on the Salarian ark to begin with? They are on the Archons ship. Not the salarian ark as far as i know.
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Post by Pokemario on May 28, 2017 21:27:38 GMT
Saved the Salarians and Raeka. They had already figured out how to exalt the Krogan, and I wasn't willing to have them exalt the Salarians as well. Also, if I remember correctly, they were civilians, while the Krogan were scouts.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 28, 2017 21:49:52 GMT
The salarians. Each. And Every. Time.
There is no logical reason to save the krogan. As the earlier poster pointed out: They have already figured out how to exalt them, so it's not like rescuing those scouts is going to prevent that. More importantly, she is much more valuable. In addition to being a skilled soldier, she knows a lot about restoring damaged ecosystems. As we saw with Habitat 7, Rem-tech doesn't always work like it should, and we shouldn't rely on it permanently. That talent is a lot more useful.
And besides, I'm already allied with the krogan. I restored Elaadan and gave the core to Morda. The krogan can whine till their blue in the face, they aren't so special that every other species comes second.
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Post by djbare on May 29, 2017 9:05:28 GMT
I saved the Salarians in one play through, won't be doing it again, kettified krogan are no fun, I gave them a chance to uplifted, and they attack me!
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Post by tjmitchem on May 29, 2017 12:48:46 GMT
Salarians. Every single time.
I fired up the vault on Elaaden, gave Morda's whiny ass the drive core, recovered their seed vault for them and exiled Spender. They've also got backing from half of the Nexus leadership now.
If they're not happy with all that, then they can fuck right the hell off.
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Post by Mir Aven on May 30, 2017 3:59:11 GMT
Save the salarians instead of the krogan. My first time I saved the krogan but this time I wanted to try the slarians instead. I felt horrible for no other reason then drack's response. Poor guy. Anyone else have this and will never choose the salarians again Why would I feel worse when saving salarians than when I saved the krogan? It's a shitty choice, no matter what you pick someone's going to suffer.
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