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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 7, 2017 11:49:24 GMT
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 7, 2017 11:54:00 GMT
Considering the vanguard in this game is alot more durable than in previous tittles I don't mind him zipping around the stage as much as it was a problem in ME3. I remember my first silver game in ME3 having a vanguard that talked mad shit in the lobby promising to not let us get any pointsand went down in wave one rage quitting after. At least now they can hold their own with such a brain dead tactic.
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 7, 2017 12:00:01 GMT
Vanguards messing up my shots annoying? Yes very. Do I hate them, and want to leave the lobby when I see one? No. Does vanguard need nerfs? No. We need more effective methods for killing things that aren't just 'some guy with a vanquisher duct-taped to him'. Is vanguard low risk, high reward? No. You spend most of the match being shot out in the open. Outlaw lizard-dogs can get you killed through saving barrier, as well as a hydra with their sensors undamaged. Remnant's observers will make you hate life. Kett are kett. If you make a mistake in the thick of the mess, get familiar with your medigel. Typical gold lobby notice the duct taped vanquishers.
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Post by SilentFear on Apr 7, 2017 12:28:11 GMT
Nop i dont care what people play. And if i have to make a choice among playing whit Vanguard and Engineer i would take the Vanguard any day of the week.
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Post by christsuperstar on Apr 7, 2017 12:30:36 GMT
I can't play anything else but Vanguard, only class that brings me true joy, feeling like a fucking juggernaut (bitch) - I-framing burst at will, recharging shields all day! Still annoyed that they made melee so useless if you're being melee'd yourself... And that they nerfed it so quickly, with Juggernaut Shield being the only real reason it's viable - why not release all of them? Also, while it's not a problem for me (unless offhost lag), sync kill is a lame function - they should instead make them a hard minigame, with cool animations, 2-4 step button mashing with success depending on how well each step is performed. BioWare, can you PLEASE, buff most guns and powers... I dream of a game were we mix the best parts of ME3MP and MEAMP... Annnd, can we have more of those "killable" parts on big enemies?
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Post by jmac1424 on Apr 7, 2017 12:33:35 GMT
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Post by Kevlareater on Apr 7, 2017 12:36:55 GMT
They don't (normally) get in my way. If I'm a sniper, I'm more than likely on high ground. If on an asari adept, I'm a vanguard magnet, as they normally wait for me to get in the crowd before they charge. Ironic that the AA would go in first, acting more as a vanguard than the vanguards.
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Post by varicite on Apr 7, 2017 12:46:13 GMT
What a silly thread..
Right now, the two most successful builds are melee and snipers with vanquisher.
The nature of the beast is that we're gonna be in each other's way, due to playstyle.
As long as they are doing objectives and helping out with reviving, I don't mind the minor annoyance of having my targets sniped right before my killing blow.
Likewise, I do the objectives and revive and use consumables. I'm doing my best to help the match be a success for everyone.
If I get in your way sometimes while I'm trying to kill targets, my bad, but you'll just have to deal with it.
With that said, I do try to hunt away from others during survival waves and rez myself if I go down away from the team.
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Post by Zerfidius on Apr 7, 2017 14:01:33 GMT
These complaints about vanguard all stink of scrubbery. I don't care what pugs kit or carry; don't care how they play as long a there's a half-assed attempt to help with objectives.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 7, 2017 14:03:17 GMT
I don`t care what other players do as long as they help me get easy credits.
They can play Vanguard, use Krysae and do Hydra glitch if they want.
It`s only a game. If I don`t like them after they help me get credits I will simply leave the lobby.
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Post by booga81 on Apr 7, 2017 14:05:46 GMT
Annihilation field on 1-2 teams mates & a vanguard is a thing of beauty
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 7, 2017 14:24:36 GMT
Yeah nova guards are just as annoying in this game as they were in the last game. I am playing them more but I get annoyed a myself for playing them.
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Post by 13igtyme on Apr 7, 2017 14:35:52 GMT
I like playing with Vanguards. I give them shield and they detonate my annihilation. Then they get mad when I have 10k more points then them on my Adept.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 7, 2017 14:36:37 GMT
Being that I am, by nature, a frontline in your face kinda guy, Vanguards have always been my thing in ME. First few days of MP, yeah, I zipped all over nailing stuff nad probably irritating people. As I got better, and learned how things work a bit more, I attempt to seperate from the main group (sometimes other sides of buildings or whatever in the map) and do my thing there. I draw most of the aggro, and let the rest of the team kill at their leisure. However, the mindset that there is little risk to vanguards is simply untrue. If you dont get a charge in when its available, you die. if you cant land that punch, you die. vanguard is really kill or be killed moment to moment. Add to that the cheap ass sync-killers that dont even have to be anywhere near you, and will target the vanguards over anything else, and its not as easy as youd think to stay alive.
Shrugs. Ill play with anyone, its just a game, and we are cooperating not competing. Just sit back, have fun, and thank anyone that makes your life easier.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 7, 2017 15:48:10 GMT
Hahahahahaha, a sniper complaining about Vanguards being op and ruining matches.
I'd rather play with 3 Novaguards than one Vanquisher Sniper right now, tbh.
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Post by ssg0rbino on Apr 7, 2017 15:51:33 GMT
Nope I don't mind meat shields.
I have noticed that all the Vanguards now run away from the hydras on gold.
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Apr 7, 2017 15:55:20 GMT
I've had a few vanguards but never had this problem, but then I was accustomed to gorram flamer vorchas spitting flames everywhere and I couldn't see through the inferno. Or the constant flow of Geth Infiltrators, got to a point were you couldn't play a single match without one in there and if you saw one you might as well put your controller down as he solo's the match getting like 15 times more score than anyone else. I don't see the issue currently in ME:A, at least we don't have characters or combos nearly as strong as we had in ME3. Only a few things are even remotely viable, I would rather every match be filled with Infiltrators with Vanquishers or Vanguards than see another dead weight Engineer, Adept or Sentinel that's going to be bottom score, and getting downed multiple times almost every wave. I'll be right there with you b****ing about Vanguards when most kits and weapons are viable on Gold, until then I welcome the cheese.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:57:28 GMT
I also wanted to add this. I am a scrub, and know little of games. But I kindda believe that this still holds true:
the faster we kill what we came to kill, the likelier we are to succeed focused fire kills the fastest
hence, I'd rather have a lively Vanguard charging into my primed target and my detonator misfiring, than a vanguard quietly bleeding out on the other end of the map out of misguided reading of the honor code or because he does not keep up with his own mobility and over-extends.
Same goes for guys who actually can shoot the sniper rifles straight and fast. By all means, darling, please one-shoot any number of mooks across the map, if you also are instrumental in the boss not devouring the rest of us alive
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 7, 2017 16:05:40 GMT
I like playing with Vanguards. I give them shield and they detonate my annihilation. Then they get mad when I have 10k more points then them on my Adept. Man I never quite got why people are so hung up on the score. I'm in it for the loot and SP rewards.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 7, 2017 16:10:31 GMT
It's really only annoying with the Kroguard. You can shoot around the human vanguards most of the time.. but not that fat Krogan hump. So yes.. I agree with the OP that it can be annoying.. but I'm not going to kick anyone for it, or not revive them. BUT.. BUT.. if they don't help with Objectives or refuse to gel during wave six.. I'll kick them out of the lobby afterwards.
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Post by drstevebrule on Apr 7, 2017 16:19:34 GMT
Only if I want to fail
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Post by Kukki_Kaiju on Apr 7, 2017 16:30:56 GMT
I know how it is to want to snipe something then have it disappear to a Vanguard's melee or charge. I am a courteous Vanguard. I charge big stuff that needs assistance. Like in Left 4 Dead 2 where Coach yells "We all gotta shoot the tank!" I run to the side of the map where my team isn't. I try to kill there. If I fall flat on my ass, I get myself up and don't wait to be rescued. That doesn't happen often though just sayin'...
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Post by dm5k on Apr 7, 2017 16:46:15 GMT
My friend only plays the Krogan Vanguard and he gets top dog every single game. All he does is headbutt and occasionally weapon kill. Not going to lie it is pretty annoying when I'm working on an enemy with my nerf guns and the Krogan Vanguard comes in for the kill.
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Post by Kukki_Kaiju on Apr 7, 2017 16:49:53 GMT
Yeah nova guards are just as annoying in this game as they were in the last game. I am playing them more but I get annoyed a myself for playing them. You don't miss the " Ahhhhh Yahhhhh Haaaaaa" SOund the human Vanguards make ?
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Post by wiz on Apr 7, 2017 16:52:33 GMT
I play this game to have fun. Vanflying is fun!
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