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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:28:36 GMT
Are there any overweight people in Andromeda? Because I don't remember seeing one. Seeing how those people are much more common that gays and transsexuals combined, one would think that with all the "representation", "inclusion" and all that unneeded bs BW spends so much attention over instead of focusing on making a good game, one cant help but get triggered over the lack of peple with imperfect body proportions - namely overweight people. Seeing how BW intentionally made female unattractive to ponder to feminists to supposedly not make some women upset of not being on par beauty-wise with ingame characters, not having fat people in game looks very sloppy and insulting in that context to say the least. So following BW own logic I must ask - why is it acceptable to not only not represent overweight people in game, while also making them suffer psychologically by being surrounded by characters of perfect athletic proportions everywhere, but at the same time treating much smaller demographics with official apologies because one line of dialogue in entire game and what not, as if they have some sort of privilege that other people don't? Clearly there are double standards involved. Seeing how all sort of minorities manage squeeze a lot of completely unnecessary things and views into game by a merit of complaining and shouting loudest alone, I think will only be fair that the issue of not having any other but athletically built people in Andromeda also needs to be constantly brought forward and highlighted, until BW offers apology and properly represent overweight people in their new game. #fatlivesmatter
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Post by Cannibal on Apr 7, 2017 10:32:52 GMT
Fat people don't give a shit about this sort of stuff.
They're fat, not whiny brats.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:33:28 GMT
So nice of you to try and derail an important topic. Are you just trolling? Or if you have a problem with overweight people, why don't you just say so so we can bath in the rays of your bigotry.
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Post by chugster on Apr 7, 2017 10:34:37 GMT
This is Mass Effect not WALL-E
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 10:35:30 GMT
Maybe, but he is not wrong. If we are going to have ugly people in the game why not fat people too?
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Post by maxzero on Apr 7, 2017 10:40:11 GMT
Maybe, but he is not wrong. If we are going to have ugly people in the game why not fat people too? Indeed. If you going to pander to one minority why not pander to all minorities? Who judges if one minority is more deserving of representation then another?
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Post by robwolf666 on Apr 7, 2017 10:40:13 GMT
Well, speaking for the game - If the AI were vetting people to go to Andromeda, wouldn't they pick the healthiest for the gene pool?
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 7, 2017 10:41:04 GMT
Lets just say they solved the Nexus' food shortage problem.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 7, 2017 10:42:59 GMT
They didn't fit into stasis pods.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:43:26 GMT
Well, speaking for the game - If the AI were vetting people to go to Andromeda, wouldn't they pick the healthiest for the gene pool? seeing what sort of characters we have in Andromeda, as well as few thousands of genophage infected Krogan got to be brought along, I don't think that fat ppl would be automatically blacklisted solely due to consideration of health issues that may or may not come from extra weight. Also if you going that way then transgenders should not have been brought along either for the exact same reason.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:44:16 GMT
They didn't fit into stasis pods. well, Krogan did, so size is clearly not the issue.
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Post by warbaby2 on Apr 7, 2017 10:45:58 GMT
They got eaten when the Nexus ran out of food...
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Post by robwolf666 on Apr 7, 2017 10:46:12 GMT
Well, speaking for the game - If the AI were vetting people to go to Andromeda, wouldn't they pick the healthiest for the gene pool? seeing what sort of characters we have in Andromeda, as well as few thousands of genophage infected Krogan got to be brought along, I don't think that fat ppl would be automatically blacklisted solely due to consideration of health issues that may or may not come from extra weight. Yes, but ALL Krogan have the Genophage, and the tribe that went to Andromeda have a resistance to it, so technically, only the "healthiest" Krogan went. The other species don't have that problem and could be more picky.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 10:47:12 GMT
They didn't fit into stasis pods. well, Krogan did, so size is clearly not the issue. Exactly. So is it BW just hates fat people? I feel the demand for an apology coming on!
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Post by Finnen on Apr 7, 2017 10:48:14 GMT
The reason is simple - laziness. Creating fat people requires more resources because you need to make few version of every clothing and armor (or make them adaptable). It's not that hard, I mean I guess it depends on the engine of the game, but for Skyrim there are special tools like "BodySlide" that allow you to adjust armors from mods to particular body types. I guess they could use similiar approach but, as I said, they are probably like "meh". Personally I would like to see super slim and super fat people in the game. I remember it was one of the things that I liked in Star Wars: The Old Republic (MMO).
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Post by obsidian on Apr 7, 2017 10:49:52 GMT
There were also no fat people in the other mass effect games. Also not in dragon age, if I remember correctly.
Guess bioware really hates fat people.
Also people in polygamous relationships by the way. Still waiting on my interspecies Harem.
It's a cruel world we live in...
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Post by warbaby2 on Apr 7, 2017 10:49:55 GMT
well, Krogan did, so size is clearly not the issue. Exactly. So is it BW just hates fat people? I feel the demand for an apology coming on! Indeed... also, where are all the people with glasses? I mean, I'm blind as a shit, where is my representation?
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Post by Pearl on Apr 7, 2017 10:52:46 GMT
Maybe, but he is not wrong. If we are going to have ugly people in the game why not fat people too? The codex in the original trilogy mentions how the prevalence of gene therapy among humans has eliminated obesity.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:52:56 GMT
seeing what sort of characters we have in Andromeda, as well as few thousands of genophage infected Krogan got to be brought along, I don't think that fat ppl would be automatically blacklisted solely due to consideration of health issues that may or may not come from extra weight. Yes, but ALL Krogan have the Genophage, and the tribe that went to Andromeda have a resistance to it, so technically, only the "healthiest" Krogan went. The other species don't have that problem and could be more picky. They do not have resistance. It is well explained in game that they tried to use gene therapy to try to deal with genophage while they were in stasis for 600 years. It did increased viability of living babies for around 2%, but still - this is absolute miniscule and they had no idea if it will have any effect at all, when they departed Milky Way. So no, however you look at it, genophage is still there pretty much as it was in Milky Way with minuscule improvements. So from health and breeding point of view - crogan are pretty much a dead weight to this expedition, much more than fat people would be.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:55:19 GMT
There were also no fat people in the other mass effect games. Also not in dragon age, if I remember correctly. Guess bioware really hates fat people. Also people in polygamous relationships by the way. Still waiting on my interspecies Harem. It's a cruel world we live in... There were overweight ppl in Mass Effect games. Remember that C-Sec guy in one of Citadel wards in ME1? Anderson was also somewhat crafty. I am pretty sure there were more, so sorry but you argument is invalid.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 7, 2017 10:55:33 GMT
Perhaps most of the colonists are from western Europe, and not the USA?
Anyway, the codex in the trilogy already explained it. Fat people are unhealthy and luckily people became healthier 150 years from now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 10:55:42 GMT
There weren't any fat people in the Milky Way either
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 10:56:35 GMT
Maybe, but he is not wrong. If we are going to have ugly people in the game why not fat people too? The codex in the original trilogy mentions how the prevalence of gene therapy among humans has eliminated obesity. Read my previous post. There were overweight ppl in original trilogy.
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Post by Fredward on Apr 7, 2017 10:57:05 GMT
Out of curiosity does anyone really have an issue with the idea of more variations in meshes? Not in soldiers/active people obviously but a fat shopkeeper or a really skinny tech or something? Or is this thread just to score points before quietly segueing into a circle jerk?
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