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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 12:46:47 GMT
You need to be able to fit in the Cryo Pod. Krogan fit just fine. Please at the very least bother to browse through pages of which there are not that many, before you write a reply - that cryopod argument was stated and rebuked few times already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 12:51:13 GMT
Any body pics? From here he just looks like a big-headed weight-lifter. You can search for it yourself, sorry but I am not going to indulge you in your asshattery. There are clearly ppl of varied body proportions in OT, that's an undeniable fact, so what you doing right now is essentially trolling. The only exception to this was James Vega. Otherwise, no, there is not. All of the adult human NPCs in the original trilogy had the exact same body model (height and weight), even most of the aliens, the turians (except maybe Saren), the asari, the drell, the salarians (maybe not Mordin). Hell, even the batarians had the same body as the humans. There aren't really any fat people in the trilogy, or skinny, for that matter, aside from the customized faces of NPCs. The kid in ME3 was created exclusively for his purpose and the teenagers in ME3 (Citadel included) had the same body model as the adults, but with the dimensions reduced. Anything else, you might be be going into the clothing models (they made Jacob or Zaeed look a little different, for example). Even Joker that was supposed to have Vrolik Syndrome had the same body as Male Shepard, which is kinda funny. Now, if you can provide a picture of a NPC (of the body, obviously) that was overweight, please. After all, you're the only one claiming otherwise.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 7, 2017 12:55:16 GMT
They found that Asari wouldnt have sex with fat people, so everyone dieted.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 7, 2017 12:58:48 GMT
You need to be able to fit in the Cryo Pod. Krogan fit just fine. Please at the very least bother. Nah I don't feel like it for this thread.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 13:04:01 GMT
You can search for it yourself, sorry but I am not going to indulge you in your asshattery. There are clearly ppl of varied body proportions in OT, that's an undeniable fact, so what you doing right now is essentially trolling. The only exception to this was James Vega. Otherwise, no, there is not. All of the adult human NPCs in the original trilogy had the exact same body model (height and weight), even most of the aliens, the turians (except maybe Saren), the asari, the drell, the salarians (maybe not Mordin). Hell, even the batarians had the same body as the humans. There isn't really any fat people in the trilogy, or skinny, for that matter, aside from the customized faces of NPCs. The kid in ME3 was created exclusively for his purpose and the teenagers in ME3 (Citadel included) had the same body model as the adults, but with the dimensions reduced. Anything else, you might be be going into the clothing models (they made Jacob or Zaeed look a little different, for example). Even Joker that was supposed to have Vrolik Syndrome had the same body as Male Shepard, which is kinda funny. Now, if you can provide any picture of a NPC (the body, obviously) that was overweight, please. After all, you're the only one claiming otherwise. Stopped reading after that part, because your statement is already invalid. David Anderson sends you his regards.
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Post by obsidian on Apr 7, 2017 13:04:48 GMT
They found that Asari wouldnt have sex with fat people, so everyone dieted. This is actually one of the better explanations I read so far... Gene therapy, codex entries, pft! Your not fooling anyone bioware.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:05:52 GMT
The only exception to this was James Vega. Otherwise, no, there is not. All of the adult human NPCs in the original trilogy had the exact same body model (height and weight), even most of the aliens, the turians (except maybe Saren), the asari, the drell, the salarians (maybe not Mordin). Hell, even the batarians had the same body as the humans. There isn't really any fat people in the trilogy, or skinny, for that matter, aside from the customized faces of NPCs. The kid in ME3 was created exclusively for his purpose and the teenagers in ME3 (Citadel included) had the same body model as the adults, but with the dimensions reduced. Anything else, you might be be going into the clothing models (they made Jacob or Zaeed look a little different, for example). Even Joker that was supposed to have Vrolik Syndrome had the same body as Male Shepard, which is kinda funny. Now, if you can provide any picture of a NPC (the body, obviously) that was overweight, please. After all, you're the only one claiming otherwise. Stopped reading after that part, because your statement is already invalid. David Anderson sends you his regards. And that's why you should've read it. I've marked the part for you. So if James was the only exception, there weren't others. Anderson wasn't fat in his ME3 attire, that was the front of the outfit that might have given you that impression. He was exactly the same as the others in the Admiral outfit. And still, you didn't show us any overweight people in the trilogy, and we're all curious to see them, since nobody else seems to remember.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 7, 2017 13:07:35 GMT
Cos every unit of mass counts when you want to accelerate it to another galaxy. Simple cost consideration. Don't need to strap extra fuel for overweight when you don't need to - people can still get fat when they have arrived and live happy in der Shire. Tell it to the Krogan... especially in the context of them also having genophage... "Banzai!" means "a 1000 years!" or so? Yeah, that is some really good weight to lifecycle ratio right there. Banzai! for every Krogan to Andromeda!
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 13:08:49 GMT
Tell it to the Krogan... especially in the context of them also having genophage... "Banzai!" means "a 1000 years!" or so? Yeah, that is some really good weight to lifecycle ratio right there. Banzai! for every Krogan to Andromeda! following your logic, salarians then should not have been allowed onto expedition.
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Post by tantumdicverbo on Apr 7, 2017 13:11:02 GMT
The devs poured all of their resources into "ugly," and failed to budget for fat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:11:32 GMT
There weren't any fat people in the Milky Way either Volus are people too! They're not fat they are big boned
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 13:14:14 GMT
The devs poured all of their resources into "ugly," and failed to budget for fat. If they spend money on fat next time does that mean they can only make the characters half as ugly? Is that a win-win? I don't even know anymore... See what happens when you start down this slope. :D8:
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Post by enviablememory on Apr 7, 2017 13:15:44 GMT
Do you honestly believe that they have ressources for different body models when they had only enough time/money for mostly one asari, turian, salarian model? #asaridiversity
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:17:30 GMT
The devs poured all of their resources into "ugly," and failed to budget for fat. If they spend money on fat next time does that mean they can only make the characters half as ugly? Is that a win-win? I don't even know anymore... See what happens when you start down this slope. :D8: What are you talking about in regards to characters being ugly, btw?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 13:22:12 GMT
I agree, I want a morbidly obese squadmate that refuses to go on missions every time I select them because they are too busy chomping on Doritos and playing World of Warcraft to get off their fat arse and do some work.
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Post by simsimillia on Apr 7, 2017 13:22:58 GMT
One reason - realities of Game Development:
From my own limited experience with 3d modelling and looking at the models in game, the models we see in game don't wear virtual clothes, but the clothes are part of their 3d-mesh. So creating a person of another body type (slimmer, thicker, taller, shorter, etc.) require additional work, because you need a new 3d-mesh, new textures, new everything. It requires the same amount of work and time as creating a completely new outfit. So unless it's a priority you're gonna save yourself the time and money. This is the most important and possibly actual only reason why Bioware didn't include different body types, if at some point Bioware deems it necessary that a character should have a certain body type they will include them.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 13:23:53 GMT
Stopped reading after that part, because your statement is already invalid. David Anderson sends you his regards. And that's why you should've read it. So if James was the only exception, there wasn't any others. Anderson wasn't fat in his ME3 attire, that was the clothing. He was exactly the same as the others in the Admiral outfit. And still, you didn't show us any overweight people in the trilogy, and we're all curious to see them, since nobody else seems to remember them. I already provided two examples, so if you bothered to read the thread instead of coming here being snarky, maybe you would have realized that there are overweight, if some of them only mildly, ppl in Mass Effect. But hey, why bother doing all that, when you just can come and be dismissive of actual facts in the defence of your athletic paradise, because clearly overweight ppl are not ppl and BW cant be bothered including them into the game in 2017, but will go out of their way making public apologies for some dialogue line with trans character. Clearly no selective bigotry representation here... Why don't you save us both time, stop making excuses in attempt not to look like a bigot, and just put it plainly that overweight ppl are less important than straight/lgbtq white/poc athletic character to bother including them into this game, and be done with that, snowflake. P.S: Also if we follow the logic of "oh but that too expensive to make more than one body model in a AAA game in 2017", then how do we have 20 cyberscanned face presets of different ppl of different races? 2 Completely voiced main protagonists of different genders... the list can go on, and you trying to say they couldn't make a fat and slim alternative to a currently "one size fits all" athletic body??? Sorry, not buying it.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 7, 2017 13:25:22 GMT
They didn't fit into stasis pods. How did the krogan fit in the stasis pods? With krogan's strength you can fit anywhere.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 7, 2017 13:25:39 GMT
Cryo pod dieting is the new thing in the future. Hop in for 600 years, come out still ugly but at least no longer fat.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 13:26:25 GMT
If they spend money on fat next time does that mean they can only make the characters half as ugly? Is that a win-win? I don't even know anymore... See what happens when you start down this slope. :D8: What are you talking about in regards to characters being ugly, btw? A few threads about it around here. Part of their feminist agenda BW deliberately made the female characters less attractive to try and make them more relatable or some dumb crap like that. It is especially notable on default Sara, compare what she looks like to her real life model then what Scott looks like to his. Even comparing Sara pre and post day 1 patch shows attempts by BW to make her less attractive to fit into some b.s. PC non-beauty ideal. The custom Sara's speak for themselves honestly. A few of them are outright hideous.
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Post by timebean on Apr 7, 2017 13:28:33 GMT
Game 5? Mass Effect Walmart.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 7, 2017 13:29:24 GMT
How did the krogan fit in the stasis pods? With krogan's strength you can fit anywhere. Can't....resist...
THATS WHAT SHE SAID!
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Post by warbaby2 on Apr 7, 2017 13:29:37 GMT
One reason - realities of Game Development: From my own limited experience with 3d modelling and looking at the models in game, the models we see in game don't wear virtual clothes, but the clothes are part of their 3d-mesh. So creating a person of another body type (slimmer, thicker, taller, shorter, etc.) require additional work, because you need a new 3d-mesh, new textures, new everything. It requires the same amount of work and time as creating a completely new outfit. So unless it's a priority you're gonna save yourself the time and money. This is the most important and possibly actual only reason why Bioware didn't include different body types, if at some point Bioware deems it necessary that a character should have a certain body type they will include them. Exactly - especially considering the probably don't even have any variables for body shape. Biggest evidence for that is: Only one body type in the CC. It's boring, but it's smart from a development perspective, since everything you build onto your models - armors, weapons, etc. will always look and behave the same. Whether a AAA project of this scope should require those levels of "resource conservation", is another discussion, though...
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Post by arreyanne on Apr 7, 2017 13:31:53 GMT
Where are all the Native Indians? I didn't see or hear anyone telling me they were a Sioux, Cherokee, Comanche, or any Indian nation. How inconsiderate of BW. I think I'll go start a hashtag!
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Post by timebean on Apr 7, 2017 13:32:16 GMT
They're not fat they are big boned How do we know Volus are fat? I always thought their suits were just needed to create the nitrous-oxide (was that it?) atmosphere they needed. They could be skinny little shrimps in those suits!
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