This game is NOT an RPG. It is IMPOSSIBLE to rolepay

 Again you're helping yourself in calling people apologists. Especially if it's game they like, it's not even helping that the word apologist has been used as a condescending term around the internet. 

You really need to take these discussions less personally, first. People are allowed to disagree with you without the implications that they're idiots who don't know what's good for them. That sort of condescending BS torpedoes a discussion faster than anything short of direct insults in my experience. 

Second, the point being made in the thread wasn't about meaningful choices, it was about roleplay options, which are very much different things.

Third, let's say I accept the goalposts being moved. Most of the choices you presented in that other post are mostly cosmetic, no more different than, say, the NPCs shuffling around in Kadara Port based on who comes out on top, or you not being able to build an outpost on Elaaden if you don't abide by the overlord's terms, or some characters permanently dying/being removed from the plot if you do certain actions. Or the Firefighter quest which can take a few turns depending on how you want to go on about it, or the final missions showing off your ''war assets'' in a way, which ME3 failed to do. Not going into too many details here because we're in non-spoilers territory. TW2 has very meaningful choices, especially choosing either Roche or Iorveth which significantly changes the story and quests you get. TW3 isn't like that, at best you get some quests that play out a bit differently and some diverging dialog. It's really not leaps and bounds better than Andromeda, and the main plot becomes increasingly railroady as you go on too, the only choices that influence the story in any significant way being if you're a dick to Ciri or not. 

If you want me to consider that other RPGs have more meaningful choices than Andromeda, I'll gladly accept your argument- so long as you back it up with better examples than TW3. New Vegas is, as far as I'm concerned, the pinnacle of choice and consequence in RPGs in... well, a very long time. That game has many quests that can dramatically change depending on your decisions, skills, reputations, and how you want to go on about them. Because it's structured in a particular way, with a blank slate PC and a ''main quest'' that's barely even that after the halfpoint of the game, the game's main plot isn't a linear quest but just you shaping the Mojave as you see fit depending on which faction you work for and against. A Bioware game couldn't really work like that, especially not one with a voiced PC.

I should've given them hell over DAI, a lot more hell than I gave them. Decided not to rock the boat too hard, this was their first attempt with a new engine. Everything would get better.

Then they lay this Cleveland Steamer on my chest. I'm done with second chances.

No nonsense included.

I've never before tried to role-play a character who surprised me more often than Hawke.  I had to play through the entire game a couple of times to get a sense of who (some version of) Hawke was before I could settle in and enjoy the game.  I wasn't afforded enough control of the character to effectively role-play Hawke, and Hawke will always feel more like an NPC to me.

These voiced, cinematic games work much better as branching narratives than gen-yoo-ine RPGs, imho.  They certainly don't support role-playing as I am familiar with it.

I can see what they were going for with a more set character, but Ryder doesn't have enough background to make it worth it. Also just because someone doesn't use the Renegade/evil type options, doesn't mean they should take them away from others. I use them rarely, or rather i rarely play that type of character, but i think all RPG's should have options to play that way. Bioware has always been very hit and miss with it, but they completely left it out of recent titles, which is a shame.

So comparing Andromeda with other games to its disfavor is OK (I even did that in the very post you quoted! Twice!) but comparisons that favor Andromeda when it comes to certain features/games is being an ''apologist''? Nice cherry picking the one part of the post you didn't like.

You know, for someone who throws that term left, right and center, you act a lot more like an apologist than any but the most overzealous Bioware defenders on these boards. I'm not even sure you're interested in a discussion at all, just spouting your views and expecting everyone to accept them, then playing the victim card when they don't. Well sorry, I don't work that way, and I'm not interested in being your yes-man. Good day.

This is just bullshit. You can be flatout disrespectful to many authority figures you meet in the game and there's nothing paragon about that.

But again, you edgy folk need to murder them on the spot or something.

Who exactly can you be rude to? Sometimes you can't even disagree with what they say, let alone mock them. How many times in the game does Ryder have to suck up to the weak Angara (and tell everyone else they should do it too via autodialogue 'this is their world, we play by their rules, blaa blaa blaah')? Or pretty much anyone else she meets in the game? 

DA2 is also the example of Bio games I would point to as the most roleplay un-friendly (followed by ME3).

To me it comes to being forced into something totally different to what youre afforded to choose. Why give those choices anyway if they arent gonna be achievable? Why let you say you want to put your newfound money into real estate and then not give you a row of houses to own? Why let you say you wont help sister Petrice at the end of Act 2 if you couldnt go forward in the game without accepting to get the Kunari out of town? 
When I play a mage (or worst a blood mage) I expect to have the guard on my ass, sure Ill find a way to bribe them/scare them, but being ignored by the game is a definite personality killer.

I dont mind so much not being able to say everything I want in a game as much as I hate being given personality-defining choices that never materialize. 

Here's a fact. Some people actually like the game. I know it's shocking, but some people find the petty baby whining and tantrums over insignificant issues a waste of time and just LIKE the game. I thought this game was for mature audiences? Get. Over. It.