inherit
Most polite person on BSN
234
0
3,674
Kaidan Fan
Mrs. Dekarios
1,635
August 2016
kaidanfan
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
2556
1927
|
Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 14, 2019 21:28:40 GMT
I also wanted to share this picture of Alexios because we can't forget how beautiful he is...and he loves his birdie friend Almost level 57.........SIGH
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,044
Element Zero
7,278
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Jan 15, 2019 1:52:10 GMT
You’ll all be shocked to hear me say I agree with Kaidan Fan. (We always seem to be on the same page.) I mentioned how much I miss the Assassins v Templars stories in the spoiler thread. This was a nice diversion, but I’m ready for a more traditional game. I really hope we don’t have a game set in Rome next year. I want something fresh, less ancient and fully focused on the Assassins v Templars. Stupid autocorrect keeps trying to add an apostrophe to “Templars”. Not this time, my nemesis!
|
|
inherit
♨ Retired
24
0
25,526
themikefest
15,372
August 2016
themikefest
21,655
15,426
|
Post by themikefest on Jan 15, 2019 2:50:31 GMT
As I mentioned in another thread, I got the platinum trophy for AC2. The game also featured one of the most frustrating things in the game. Jumping to activated the door to a tomb. I'm sure folks remember this
I will be starting AC Brotherhood shortly
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,044
Element Zero
7,278
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Jan 15, 2019 3:14:38 GMT
As I mentioned in another thread, I got the platinum trophy for AC2. The game also featured one of the most frustrating things in the game. Jumping to activated the door to a tomb. I'm sure folks remember this
I will be starting AC Brotherhood shortly
AC2 + Brotherhood is probably the high point of the series for me, in terms of setting, characters and story all aligning.
|
|
Tittus
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ByonicClown
Posts: 874 Likes: 1,603
inherit
2959
0
1,603
Tittus
874
January 2017
tittus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ByonicClown
|
Post by Tittus on Jan 15, 2019 16:10:22 GMT
I got an nasty game breaking bug in Odyssey. The game was running perfectly until December. I didn’t touch it since then, then I went play the latest episode of “Lost tales of Greece” and the camera shakes whenever I start to move and I can’t use any skills, just overpower attacks. I still managed to finish the quests.
Now after the last patch, it gotten even worse. I can’t even move my mouse cursor. There’s a circle with a dot in the middle of my screen.
Uninstalled and I’m downloading again.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 15, 2019 22:51:49 GMT
I got an nasty game breaking bug in Odyssey. The game was running perfectly until December. I didn’t touch it since then, then I went play the latest episode of “Lost tales of Greece” and the camera shakes whenever I start to move and I can’t use any skills, just overpower attacks. I still managed to finish the quests. Now after the last patch, it gotten even worse. I can’t even move my mouse cursor. There’s a circle with a dot in the middle of my screen. Uninstalled and I’m downloading again. Wow that's weird and must have been really frustrating. Did the uninstall fix the problem?
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,044
Element Zero
7,278
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Jan 16, 2019 5:41:16 GMT
I got an nasty game breaking bug in Odyssey. The game was running perfectly until December. I didn’t touch it since then, then I went play the latest episode of “Lost tales of Greece” and the camera shakes whenever I start to move and I can’t use any skills, just overpower attacks. I still managed to finish the quests. Now after the last patch, it gotten even worse. I can’t even move my mouse cursor. There’s a circle with a dot in the middle of my screen. Uninstalled and I’m downloading again. PS4Pro has a bunch of new issues, too, since the patch. I listed a lot of them in the spoiler thread. They smoothed out enough to play the game, but it’s definitely a lesser experience.
|
|
Tittus
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ByonicClown
Posts: 874 Likes: 1,603
inherit
2959
0
1,603
Tittus
874
January 2017
tittus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ByonicClown
|
Post by Tittus on Jan 16, 2019 6:36:00 GMT
I got an nasty game breaking bug in Odyssey. The game was running perfectly until December. I didn’t touch it since then, then I went play the latest episode of “Lost tales of Greece” and the camera shakes whenever I start to move and I can’t use any skills, just overpower attacks. I still managed to finish the quests. Now after the last patch, it gotten even worse. I can’t even move my mouse cursor. There’s a circle with a dot in the middle of my screen. Uninstalled and I’m downloading again. Wow that's weird and must have been really frustrating. Did the uninstall fix the problem? I don’t know. When the installation ended, the problem remained, but then I restarted my pc and everything is fine. Before that I run my antivirus, cleaned stuff, etc and nothing helped. All my other programs, apps and games worked well. This bug came out of nowhere and now is gone the same way.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 16, 2019 7:03:21 GMT
Wow that's weird and must have been really frustrating. Did the uninstall fix the problem? I don’t know. When the installation ended, the problem remained, but then I restarted my pc and everything is fine. Before that I run my antivirus, cleaned stuff, etc and nothing helped. All my other programs, apps and games worked well. This bug came out of nowhere and now is gone the same way. Well I am glad its fixed as I am sure you are. <iframe width="23.96" height="6.30000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT1_31933157" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.3px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.30000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT1_2900568" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.3px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.30000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT1_23866216" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 253px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.3px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.30000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT1_38189061" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 253px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.3px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
|
|
inherit
Most polite person on BSN
234
0
3,674
Kaidan Fan
Mrs. Dekarios
1,635
August 2016
kaidanfan
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
2556
1927
|
Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 16, 2019 20:12:25 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 16, 2019 22:22:49 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Exactly, well said KFK. <iframe width="23.96" height="4" id="MoatPxIOPT0_28946225" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 4px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="4" id="MoatPxIOPT0_58394000" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 4px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="4" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67971894" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 140px; width: 23.96px; height: 4px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="4" id="MoatPxIOPT0_81312733" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 140px; width: 23.96px; height: 4px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
31,555
Hanako Ikezawa
22,979
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 16, 2019 22:29:26 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Why do they need the bloodline to continue? I've seen people use this excuse, but there is never a good reason behind it meanwhile multiple good reasons against it. Also just because people saw it coming doesn't mean they would be any less outraged by it.
|
|
inherit
Most polite person on BSN
234
0
3,674
Kaidan Fan
Mrs. Dekarios
1,635
August 2016
kaidanfan
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
2556
1927
|
Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 16, 2019 22:38:58 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Why do they need the bloodline to continue? I've seen people use this excuse, but there is never a good reason behind it meanwhile multiple good reasons against it. Also just because people saw it coming doesn't mean they would be any less outraged by it. I knew the hidden comment would be you.
If you know about AC lore and the story through all games, you know that it's the conflict between assassin and templar and how the templar want to control the Isu bloodlines. People who are their descendants (of the precursor race) are the ones who can control the artifacts which the templars want so badly. That's all. And I never implied there shouldn't be "outrage." That's up for each individual to decide on their own. And I won't be commenting on this anymore.
|
|
Tittus
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ByonicClown
Posts: 874 Likes: 1,603
inherit
2959
0
1,603
Tittus
874
January 2017
tittus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ByonicClown
|
Post by Tittus on Jan 16, 2019 22:57:33 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Don’t make Deimos’ death an alternate ending, and instead make the sibling the responsible for that. Or add one more power to the Staff, some sort of artificial impregnation. Or have less feelings, like Pythagoras, one night of disgusting coitus and that’s it.
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
31,555
Hanako Ikezawa
22,979
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 16, 2019 23:19:22 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Don’t make Deimos’ death an alternate ending, and instead make the sibling the responsible for that. Or add one more power to the Staff, some sort of artificial impregnation. Or have less feelings, like Pythagoras, one night of disgusting coitus and that’s it. Or just have your sibling have a kid before the plot so then they could still die.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 16, 2019 23:20:49 GMT
I played the DLC. I enjoyed it. I knew it was coming. I saw it from 8 million miles away. Before there was even DLC, lol. I knew people would get mad. But I mean, how else would the bloodline continue? They were trying to preserve the Isu bloodline by having Kass&Alexios to begin with. I'm just sorry others didn't see it coming Why do they need the bloodline to continue? I've seen people use this excuse, but there is never a good reason behind it meanwhile multiple good reasons against it. Also just because people saw it coming doesn't mean they would be any less outraged by it. People keep mentioning the bloodline because all the AC protagonists carry the blood of the Isu and its what gives Kassandra the ability to wield the Spear of Leonidas. If Kassandra or Alexios do not have a child how does the bloodline continue? All the future protagonists are in some way descendants of the bloodline is my understanding (but I may be wrong) so if Kass/Alexios do not have a child then the future protagonists can't have existed unless there is another hereditary line. Obsidian Gryphon is this correct? <iframe width="23.96" height="6.28000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_6144898" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.28px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
<iframe width="23.96" height="6.28000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_12118966" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.28px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.28000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59860243" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 253px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.28px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.28000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT0_83998441" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: 253px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.28px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 16, 2019 23:31:23 GMT
Don’t make Deimos’ death an alternate ending, and instead make the sibling the responsible for that. Or add one more power to the Staff, some sort of artificial impregnation. Or have less feelings, like Pythagoras, one night of disgusting coitus and that’s it. Or just have your sibling have a kid before the plot so then they could still die. Why does this all matter so much. In every game you play or every book you read the writers write things that are immutable to push a story arc or get an emotional response. Its a game, you are free to not play it or just play it and them imagine it happened some other way like the way Tittus proposes as better in game solutions. In AC Origins the writers used the death of a child to tug on heart strings and they did it again in AC Odyssey with Phoibe, why aren't people more outraged by that? I am sorry I just don't get that people can't accept that the writers control the narrative and obviously want to push the story a certain way, it is what it is and if people don't like it they are free to not play the game. Could they have done it in a different way, well hell yes people have already suggested them but they didn't and that's their right and maybe because that's what they felt they needed to do to move the story in the direction they wanted. Or maybe they just F%$&ked up like the Bioware ME3 writers did with the ending. <iframe width="23.96" height="5.24000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT0_64041367" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 5.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="5.24000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75443392" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 5.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="5.24000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32070863" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 202px; width: 23.96px; height: 5.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="5.24000000000001" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7060276" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: 202px; width: 23.96px; height: 5.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
31,555
Hanako Ikezawa
22,979
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 17, 2019 0:09:30 GMT
Why do they need the bloodline to continue? I've seen people use this excuse, but there is never a good reason behind it meanwhile multiple good reasons against it. Also just because people saw it coming doesn't mean they would be any less outraged by it. People keep mentioning the bloodline because all the AC protagonists carry the blood of the Isu and its what gives Kassandra the ability to wield the Spear of Leonidas. If Kassandra or Alexios do not have a child how does the bloodline continue? All the future protagonists are in some way descendants of the bloodline is my understanding (but I may be wrong) so if Kass/Alexios do not have a child then the future protagonists can't have existed unless there is another hereditary line. Obsidian Gryphon is this correct? They don't need the bloodline to continue. They live for 2500 years and only die when they did because they give the staff up. And there clearly are other lines since the Order in the DLC is all about hunting the "tainted ones" down, ecven using one as one of their soldiers. Or just have your sibling have a kid before the plot so then they could still die. Why does this all matter so much. In every game you play or every book you read the writers write things that are immutable to push a story arc or get an emotional response. Its a game, you are free to not play it or just play it and them imagine it happened some other way like the way Tittus proposes as better in game solutions. In AC Origins the writers used the death of a child to tug on heart strings and they did it again in AC Odyssey with Phoibe, why aren't people more outraged by that? I am sorry I just don't get that people can't accept that the writers control the narrative and obviously want to push the story a certain way, it is what it is and if people don't like it they are free to not play the game. Could they have done it in a different way, well hell yes people have already suggested them but they didn't and that's their right and maybe because that's what they felt they needed to do to move the story in the direction they wanted. Or maybe they just F%$&ked up like the Bioware ME3 writers did with the ending. Those same games and books don't straight up lie to me to get my purchase, which is what Ubisoft did to every player this effected. That's the big difference. By your logic you wouldn't be upset if you were sold a car that didn't do what they said it would, or a trip that didn't have what you were promised. Is that the case? No, of course not. People are allowed to be upset at something that is valid to be upset about. If you disagree, I have a bridge to sell you.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 17, 2019 0:57:23 GMT
People keep mentioning the bloodline because all the AC protagonists carry the blood of the Isu and its what gives Kassandra the ability to wield the Spear of Leonidas. If Kassandra or Alexios do not have a child how does the bloodline continue? All the future protagonists are in some way descendants of the bloodline is my understanding (but I may be wrong) so if Kass/Alexios do not have a child then the future protagonists can't have existed unless there is another hereditary line. Obsidian Gryphon is this correct? They don't need the bloodline to continue. They live for 2500 years and only die when they did because they give the staff up. And there clearly are other lines since the Order in the DLC is all about hunting the "tainted ones" down, ecven using one as one of their soldiers. Why does this all matter so much. In every game you play or every book you read the writers write things that are immutable to push a story arc or get an emotional response. Its a game, you are free to not play it or just play it and them imagine it happened some other way like the way Tittus proposes as better in game solutions. In AC Origins the writers used the death of a child to tug on heart strings and they did it again in AC Odyssey with Phoibe, why aren't people more outraged by that? I am sorry I just don't get that people can't accept that the writers control the narrative and obviously want to push the story a certain way, it is what it is and if people don't like it they are free to not play the game. Could they have done it in a different way, well hell yes people have already suggested them but they didn't and that's their right and maybe because that's what they felt they needed to do to move the story in the direction they wanted. Or maybe they just F%$&ked up like the Bioware ME3 writers did with the ending. Those same games and books don't straight up lie to me to get my purchase, which is what Ubisoft did to every player this effected. That's the big difference. By your logic you wouldn't be upset if you were sold a car that didn't do what they said it would, or a trip that didn't have what you were promised. Is that the case? No, of course not. People are allowed to be upset at something that is valid to be upset about. If you disagree, I have a bridge to sell you. And my point is they did not set out to lie to you or anyone, they have admitted they made a mistake. You are putting words in my mouth with your car analogy, its a poor one and totally irrelevant to the creative experience playing a game is. When I buy a game I expect to enjoy the game, I do not let minor variances in the narrative upset me or colour my whole view of a game and its developers. I do not expect the game to meet my every expectation with regards to its content and I do not expect that the company deliberately set out to ruin my experience by doing something that I disagree with.
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
31,555
Hanako Ikezawa
22,979
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 17, 2019 1:06:14 GMT
They don't need the bloodline to continue. They live for 2500 years and only die when they did because they give the staff up. And there clearly are other lines since the Order in the DLC is all about hunting the "tainted ones" down, ecven using one as one of their soldiers. Those same games and books don't straight up lie to me to get my purchase, which is what Ubisoft did to every player this effected. That's the big difference. By your logic you wouldn't be upset if you were sold a car that didn't do what they said it would, or a trip that didn't have what you were promised. Is that the case? No, of course not. People are allowed to be upset at something that is valid to be upset about. If you disagree, I have a bridge to sell you. And my point is they did not set out to lie to you or anyone, they have admitted they made a mistake. You are putting words in my mouth with your car analogy, its a poor one and totally irrelevant to the creative experience playing a game is. When I buy a game I expect to enjoy the game, I do not let minor variances in the narrative upset me or colour my whole view of a game and its developers. I do not expect the game to meet my every expectation with regards to its content and I do not expect that the company deliberately set out to ruin my experience by doing something that I disagree with. Really? Because their "apology" showed that this wasn't a mistake but that they planned this from the beginning and everything they said otherwise was a lie. And when I buy something I expect to get everything it is advertised to have. Instead they advertised a feature they never planned on fulfilling, in this case not forcing a relationship and letting you be what you wanted to be. This is not some minor variance. This changes an aspect of the character that was a huge selling point if you read the complaints about this. This was why some people ought the game, and they were robbed of that reason. In this was always the plan like they say it was, they should have advertised it that way. But no, lying to people to get their money is apparently fine.
|
|
inherit
ღ Aerial Flybys
61
0
1
27,000
Obsidian Gryphon
10,490
August 2016
obsidiangryphon
ObsidianGryphon
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire
|
Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jan 17, 2019 1:12:04 GMT
Why do they need the bloodline to continue? I've seen people use this excuse, but there is never a good reason behind it meanwhile multiple good reasons against it. Also just because people saw it coming doesn't mean they would be any less outraged by it. People keep mentioning the bloodline because all the AC protagonists carry the blood of the Isu and its what gives Kassandra the ability to wield the Spear of Leonidas. If Kassandra or Alexios do not have a child how does the bloodline continue? All the future protagonists are in some way descendants of the bloodline is my understanding (but I may be wrong) so if Kass/Alexios do not have a child then the future protagonists can't have existed unless there is another hereditary line. Obsidian Gryphon is this correct? It's established that in order to control an Isu artifact, the handler must be a Hybrid (human with Isu genes). Those who are not Hybrids, are corrupted.
In Assassins Creed lore, there are two groups vying to control the artifacts. One (Templars) intended to use the artifacts to control the populace, the other (Assassins) opposes it. From what we have seen in the series, Hybrids are not restricted to the Leonidas bloodline or the Templars wouldn't be able to handle the various artifacts that came into their hands. It is likely one of several scattered all over the globe; AC1, where Desmond found he was the latest victim in the Templars' search for the location of the Apple.
It is in the interest of the two groups to ensure the bloodlines and their creed are continued. It is doubtful we have seen all the messages Precursor Aletheia left behind or those that Herodotus embedded for Kass. But the emphasis of those messages would have been to prevent the perversion of the Isu artifacts in the wrong hands and to find the person who will restore order and remove chaos.
Given Kassandra's present location and the time period, it is in her interest to have an heir. The Isu artifact was passed to her. The responsibility was hers alone and it's a heavy burden.
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 17, 2019 1:14:28 GMT
And my point is they did not set out to lie to you or anyone, they have admitted they made a mistake. You are putting words in my mouth with your car analogy, its a poor one and totally irrelevant to the creative experience playing a game is. When I buy a game I expect to enjoy the game, I do not let minor variances in the narrative upset me or colour my whole view of a game and its developers. I do not expect the game to meet my every expectation with regards to its content and I do not expect that the company deliberately set out to ruin my experience by doing something that I disagree with. Really? Because their "apology" showed that this wasn't a mistake but that they planned this from the beginning and everything they said otherwise was a lie. And when I buy something I expect to get everything it is advertised to have. Instead they advertised a feature they never planned on fulfilling, in this case not forcing a relationship and letting you be what you wanted to be. This is not some minor variance. This changes an aspect of the character that was a huge selling point if you read the complaints about this. This was why some people ought the game, and they were robbed of that reason. In this was always the plan like they say it was, they should have advertised it that way. But no, lying to people to get their money is apparently fine. I am sorry you are disappointed with your purchase of the game and that you feel betrayed by Ubisoft but I don't. They would have created the story arch ages ago and they have admitted in implementing it they went against what they promised. For me I can accept that and I'll move on. I respect you have an opinion re this but I also have one and mine is obviously at odds with yours. I don't have the time or energy to debate this ad nauseum nor do I want to, I'd rather go back to talking about the fun I have playing the game every day.
Best wishes and I hope you find a game that meets your needs in the near future.<iframe width="23.96" height="6.88" id="MoatPxIOPT0_62918523" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.88px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.88" id="MoatPxIOPT0_66784120" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: -5px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.88px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.88" id="MoatPxIOPT0_37470898" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 283px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.88px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.96" height="6.88" id="MoatPxIOPT0_38691362" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: 283px; width: 23.96px; height: 6.88px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
|
|
inherit
A blade answers only to the hand that wields it
3406
0
44,781
dazk
15,885
February 2017
dazk
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
DazK1805
|
Post by dazk on Jan 17, 2019 1:16:03 GMT
People keep mentioning the bloodline because all the AC protagonists carry the blood of the Isu and its what gives Kassandra the ability to wield the Spear of Leonidas. If Kassandra or Alexios do not have a child how does the bloodline continue? All the future protagonists are in some way descendants of the bloodline is my understanding (but I may be wrong) so if Kass/Alexios do not have a child then the future protagonists can't have existed unless there is another hereditary line. Obsidian Gryphon is this correct? It's established that in order to control an Isu artifact, the handler must be a Hybrid (human with Isu genes). Those who are not Hybrids, are corrupted.
In Assassins Creed lore, there are two groups vying to control the artifacts. One (Templars) intended to use the artifacts to control the populace, the other (Assassins) opposes it. From what we have seen in the series, Hybrids are not restricted to the Leonidas bloodline or the Templars wouldn't be able to handle the various artifacts that came into their hands. It is likely one of several scattered all over the globe; AC1, where Desmond found he was the latest victim in the Templars' search for the location of the Apple.
It is in the interest of the two groups to ensure the bloodlines and their creed are continued. It is doubtful we have seen all the messages Precursor Aletheia left behind or those that Herodotus embedded for Kass. But the emphasis of those messages would have been to prevent the perversion of the Isu artifacts in the wrong hands and to find the person who will restore order and remove chaos.
Given Kassandra's present location and the time period, it is in her interest to have an heir. The Isu artifact was passed to her. The responsibility was hers alone and it's a heavy burden. <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="10.78" id="MoatPxIOPT0_72758899" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 23.64px; height: 10.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="10.78" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54632190" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: -5px; width: 23.64px; height: 10.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="10.78" id="MoatPxIOPT0_67371052" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 474px; width: 23.64px; height: 10.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="23.6400000000001" height="10.78" id="MoatPxIOPT0_19836676" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1122px; top: 474px; width: 23.64px; height: 10.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> Thanks Obsidian Gryphon
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,044
Element Zero
7,278
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Jan 17, 2019 2:04:26 GMT
Oh, good! There’s unbridled whinging in both AC threads. I was sure hoping to find more of that here. Don’t let me interrupt. Kaidan Fan, I just noticed your “All hail Sexios!” That’s great!
|
|
inherit
424
0
6,421
Andrew Waples
4,118
August 2016
andrewwaples1
Andrew_Waples
|
Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 17, 2019 15:53:48 GMT
|
|