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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 10, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
What I mean is are we going to have another repeat of the "Prequels VS Original Trilogy" on our hands but instead the Mass Effect version; Ryder Story VS Original Trilogy.
Honestly I don't care since I love all of the Mass Effect games but I can see the series going down this path......but hey atleast they can't ruin source material if there isn't none (Looking at you SW:TFA for killing off Boba Fett)
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 10, 2017 16:39:23 GMT
What I mean is are we going to have another repeat of the "Prequels VS Original Trilogy" on our hands but instead the Mass Effect version; Ryder Story VS Original Trilogy. Honestly I don't care since I love all of the Mass Effect games but I can see the series going down this path......but hey atleast they can't ruin source material if there isn't none (Looking at you SW:TFA for killing off Boba Fett) Folks can whine and complain all day about how Mass Effect is "ruined." I'll just sit back and enjoy the games like I always do.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 10, 2017 16:41:46 GMT
Well, the prequal trilogy was turrible. MEA Isnt exactly turrible, its just...meh.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 10, 2017 16:43:37 GMT
I am seriously considering doing a Plinkett style deconstruction of ME:A so... maybe? Now accepting pre-orders for pizza rolls.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 10, 2017 16:45:08 GMT
W H onestly I don't care since I love all of the Mass Effect games but I can see the series going down this path......but hey atleast they can't ruin source material if there isn't none (Looking at you SW:TFA for killing off Boba Fett) If you don't care, why make a thread about it..........!? lol. Of course the games are going to be compared to the original trilogy, and they should be. They all have Mass Effect written on them, and they all come from the same development studio. Therefore, of course they should be compared. The original 3 were superb. They set the standard for Bioware entries into this franchise. It's only natural to hold them to that standard. One of the things that makes Andromeda so disappointing, is that it's the 4th game they've released in the franchise, and yet it seems as though they've forgotten what made the original games so great
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 10, 2017 16:45:37 GMT
What I mean is are we going to have another repeat of the "Prequels VS Original Trilogy" on our hands but instead the Mass Effect version; Ryder Story VS Original Trilogy. Honestly I don't care since I love all of the Mass Effect games but I can see the series going down this path......but hey atleast they can't ruin source material if there isn't none (Looking at you SW:TFA for killing off Boba Fett) I suppose that depends on BW and the writers doesn't it? I'd say MEA is off to a lot better start than the SW Prequels. Though that isn't exactly a high bar to clear.
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 10, 2017 16:50:11 GMT
W H onestly I don't care since I love all of the Mass Effect games but I can see the series going down this path......but hey atleast they can't ruin source material if there isn't none (Looking at you SW:TFA for killing off Boba Fett) If you don't care, why make a thread about it..........!? lol. Of course the games are going to be compared to the original trilogy, and they should be. They all have Mass Effect written on them, and they all come from the same development studio. Therefore, of course they should be compared. The original 3 were superb. They set the standard for Bioware entries into this franchise. It's only natural to hold them to that standard. One of the things that makes Andromeda so disappointing, is that it's the 4th game they've released in the franchise, and yet it seems as though they've forgotten what made the original games so great Well mainly cause I noticed a trend that felt awfully familiar to how the Prequels were received and wanted to see if anyone else picked up on it. Also this ME was made by the Bioware Montreal team.
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Post by jpcab on Apr 10, 2017 16:54:44 GMT
Who s Ryder?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 16:57:06 GMT
I love the ME verse, and all ME games. I can't treat them as sequel and prequel, because the SW franchise is more about the Old Republic to me. I liked one of the movies when I was a teen, but as an adult all of them were less appealing than KOTOR and SWTOR. Over time, I came to view Skywalker centered drama as too limited compared to the OR and could never be as excited about the movies as I was about the games. ME was always opened and I welcome new protagonist who is Not Shepard, and they are all games....
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Post by degs29 on Apr 10, 2017 16:57:38 GMT
Yes, of course. I knew that even before I played Andromeda's Early Access. There was always going to be people like that.
While I don't think ME:A meets the high marks of ME2 and ME3, it's not deserving of all the crap that has been chucked its way. Them releasing too early was the fault of the publisher, not Bioware. Though Bioware is not without blame for other items. Regardless, too much criticism is being leveled, and that is absolutely analogous with the Star Wars prequels. While not up to the originals' standards, they weren't terrible movies. The third was actually quite good, and has some of the best moments in the entire series!
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Post by cypherj on Apr 10, 2017 16:59:44 GMT
Well Bioware was only themselves to blame for some of it. There were obviously going to be comparisons to the original, that's unavoidable. However, they didn't make it easy for themselves putting the game out in the state it was. I would have pushed the release back and polished this up more, because you can't get first impressions back. There are games that feel complete and have bugs, and them there are games that come off as having needed more development time. ME:A is the latter. It's not a great game, and I don't think it will grab no players like ME:1 did. The beginning of ME:1 with Anderson talking about you, you walking through the ship to the ME music, and then going through the relay for the first time, just grabbed me from the start, and the game kept it up throughout.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 10, 2017 17:01:35 GMT
I never understood most complaints about 'We want Shepard, and Wrex, and the Normandy, and Joker, and..!'
I think a great universe can have multiple stories, I wish for example that Telltale would make a spin off etc.
So I was happy this kind of criticsm isn't out there that much. The criticism that is around, is justified. The game is not good enough, unfortunately.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 10, 2017 17:08:32 GMT
Yes, of course. I knew that even before I played Andromeda's Early Access. There was always going to be people like that. While I don't think ME:A meets the high marks of ME2 and ME3, it's not deserving of all the crap that has been chucked its way. Them releasing too early was the fault of the publisher, not Bioware. Though Bioware is not without blame for other items. Regardless, too much criticism is being leveled, and that is absolutely analogous with the Star Wars prequels. While not up to the originals' standards, they weren't terrible movies. The third was actually quite good, and has some of the best moments in the entire series! Very well put. I agree.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 10, 2017 17:09:33 GMT
Most defintely they "who still cares" option.
BioWare's shot themselves in the foot too many times. There's sparsely good stuff left when they make new Mass Effect stories but most of it has been bastardized and let people down. BioWare's going down the drain in relevance. They did it to themselves or maybe it was EA. Ever since their most passionated talent started leaving they started losing.
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Post by Arcian on Apr 10, 2017 17:13:12 GMT
Easiest "Yes" of all time.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 10, 2017 17:25:06 GMT
If anything, this poll greatly reflects the possibility of encountering of a more or less objective opinion about the game on this forum...
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 10, 2017 17:33:07 GMT
I voted "who cares it's Mass Effect" because I could say the same about the Star Wars prequels. Yes they were terrible but they were still Star Wars.
I would rank Andromeda closer to "The Force Awakens" than "The Phantom Menace" though (if the Force Awakens film reel breaks halfway through)
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 10, 2017 17:36:31 GMT
I voted who cares, because nothing in the franchise thus far is as bad as those piece o' shit movies.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 10, 2017 17:38:02 GMT
I'm not Star Wars fan at all, haven't seen one in so long and I watched 1-6. So can't really anwser that, however comparing Andromeda to the original mass effects:
I think we can in terms of quality, which has more details? Which expands on plots better than the others? Which uses more assets and such. Which gives more meaning to choices? Etc etc. I don't think we can really argue characters as people will look at them differently and have their own preferences, plus Andromeda doesn't have two extra games to it to back up it's characters like the originals. I'm a ME1 fan through and through(it's my favorite) and I'd give Andromeda the nod on first impression on characters, ME1 they were essentially walking codexes(doesn't mean you don't learn anything personal about them) it wasn't until ME2+3 that I saw bioware actually expanding on their characters, especially with the inclusion of loyalty missions. I could also compare the lore/science of both, and in the end both are huge contradictions to that philosophy.
In the end I try to not compare the two as they're completely different series (set in the same universe, hence why it still retains the mass effect name) and Andromeda is a spin-off with no direct ties to the original. That in itself let's the devs experiment with different mechanics and how they want to progress this series. I also understand Andromeda doesn't have the backing of two other games like the OT did but ultimately one can't stop others from comparing the two.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 10, 2017 21:08:08 GMT
If you don't care, why make a thread about it..........!? lol. Of course the games are going to be compared to the original trilogy, and they should be. They all have Mass Effect written on them, and they all come from the same development studio. Therefore, of course they should be compared. The original 3 were superb. They set the standard for Bioware entries into this franchise. It's only natural to hold them to that standard. One of the things that makes Andromeda so disappointing, is that it's the 4th game they've released in the franchise, and yet it seems as though they've forgotten what made the original games so great Well mainly cause I noticed a trend that felt awfully familiar to how the Prequels were received and wanted to see if anyone else picked up on it. Also this ME was made by the Bioware Montreal team. BW Montreal, and not BW's primary studios, being responsible for a game as big as Mass Effect, is not an excuse for Bioware. It's a criticism.
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Post by Zemgus on Apr 10, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
MEA is more like TFA. The Star Wars prequel trilogy took the setting to a different direction and some fans were upset by it. Where as TFA was full of fan-service and just recycled everything from A New Hope. MEA sometimes feels like that too from the main plot to the characters and everything else. That's not it's biggest problem however (unlike with TFA), not even close, so in that way it's not really relevant, just wanted to point that out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 21:19:43 GMT
I voted maybe, but it depends on how much ME fans want to wear the nostalgia goggles. It's not like Star Wars where the originals are clearly far better than the prequels.
ME:A is at least better than ME1. The only area where ME1 was superior to ME:A was in some of the character design and animation.
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Post by pantherdane on Apr 10, 2017 22:11:44 GMT
I voted who cares, but I have seen it already. This is just like the D1 and D2 people droning on about how they hated D3. Saddest part about those hypocrites is that they complain and compare all day while putting in thousands of hours in a game they swear they hate. I see that already with this game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 22:51:10 GMT
Of course. Humans love to compare things.
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