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Post by Ieldra on Apr 15, 2017 7:47:48 GMT
Yeah,yeah! The Op wouldn't be calling Shep stupid if he/she were alive. If Shep was still with us the OP would be Sheps kiss arse. fextralife.com/forums/t474091/the-oneyearafter-replay-a-missionbymission-review/This was written in 2013 shortly after the Citadel DLC had come out, and it wasn't even the first time I complained about Shepard's canonical stupidity. It's just the most prominent example. Edit: If you don't know, fextralife has archived almost all of the old Bioware forums' content. Statements like yours can be fact-checked
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Post by vonuber on Apr 15, 2017 7:53:59 GMT
There is a bigger thing behind this and one where I think ME:A will come out ahead if there are sequels made. Mass Effect alone had 4 major decisons: - save zzzz or the racist - Rachni - kill Wrex or not - Council
That's 4 potentially big - for your future squad or the ongoing story - decisons that have to be incorporated into the next game or made inconsequential so they don't actually matter as a decision. This obviously leads to a permutation nightmare without even factoring in any of the decisons in the sequel. Obviously bioware pretty much retconned 2 of them, but we're also forced to downgrade the two companions as a result.
Now I'm only around 50% through ME:A but it lookd like that they may have learnt their lesson this time, even if it does limit the decison impact.
Hopefully they can explore more in future games.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 15, 2017 7:55:46 GMT
Yeah,yeah! The Op wouldn't be calling Shep stupid if he/she were alive. If Shep was still with us the OP would be Sheps kiss arse. fextralife.com/forums/t474091/the-oneyearafter-replay-a-missionbymission-review/This was written in 2013 shortly after the Citadel DLC had come out, and it wasn't even the first time I complained about Shepard's canonical stupidity. It's just the most prominent example. Edit: If you don't know, fextralife has archived almost all of the old Bioware forums' content. Statements like yours can be fact-checked I've been waiting for someone to do that. I'm just glad it wasnt me on the receiving end.
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Post by unwanted on Apr 15, 2017 7:58:06 GMT
Yeah,yeah! The Op wouldn't be calling Shep stupid if he/she were alive. If Shep was still with us the OP would be Sheps kiss arse. fextralife.com/forums/t474091/the-oneyearafter-replay-a-missionbymission-review/This was written in 2013 shortly after the Citadel DLC had come out, and it wasn't even the first time I complained about Shepard's canonical stupidity. It's just the most prominent example. Edit: If you don't know, fextralife has archived almost all of the old Bioware forums' content. Statements like yours can be fact-checked Well okay then. I can tell you one thing; Your not going to make many friend if you go around throwing dirt at our Shep. Shep has infiltrated to many hearts for people to let it slide.
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Post by Ieldra on Apr 15, 2017 8:41:39 GMT
fextralife.com/forums/t474091/the-oneyearafter-replay-a-missionbymission-review/This was written in 2013 shortly after the Citadel DLC had come out, and it wasn't even the first time I complained about Shepard's canonical stupidity. It's just the most prominent example. Edit: If you don't know, fextralife has archived almost all of the old Bioware forums' content. Statements like yours can be fact-checked Well okay then. I can tell you one thing; Your not going to make many friend if you go around throwing dirt at our Shep. Shep has infiltrated to many hearts for people to let it slide. So, I am "throwing dirt" at a person now. I thought I was criticizing the writing of a piece of fiction. I was as emotionally invested in the MET and its characters as any fan. That made the shortcomings, particularly of ME3, only sting more. MEA has one or two serious shortcomings compared to the MET, but in this it's an improvement.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 15, 2017 9:35:17 GMT
But Ieldra... I can't murder for the sake of murder, so this automatically is a bad RPG.
/sarcasm off
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Apr 15, 2017 9:40:37 GMT
fextralife.com/forums/t474091/the-oneyearafter-replay-a-missionbymission-review/This was written in 2013 shortly after the Citadel DLC had come out, and it wasn't even the first time I complained about Shepard's canonical stupidity. It's just the most prominent example. Edit: If you don't know, fextralife has archived almost all of the old Bioware forums' content. Statements like yours can be fact-checked Well okay then. I can tell you one thing; Your not going to make many friend if you go around throwing dirt at our Shep. Shep has infiltrated to many hearts for people to let it slide. Shep will be okay.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 11:32:26 GMT
Yeah,yeah! The Op wouldn't be calling Shep stupid if he/she were alive. If Shep was still with us the OP would be Sheps kiss arse. If Ryder is so with it how come she/he never says what it says in the line of conversation you have selected? How come every option you select in the dialogue has the same outcome? She/he has no opinions, nor choices other than the one Bioware want you to make. Shep was the pure rebel. Shepard was the ROCK on which Mass Effect stands.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 15, 2017 11:49:04 GMT
Yes, now they learned their lesson. Now you need to pay another 60-100 bucks to get the opportunity to see if any of your decisions mattered. Because they sure didn't matter in this game. People, get off the ryncol... Don't be ridiculous. You would rather have so called 'big decisions' ultimately being pointless? People moaned about that endlessly with the MET. And lest you forget - how did you see the impact of your wrex decision without paying another 60 colonial currency?
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 15, 2017 12:29:41 GMT
Yes, now they learned their lesson. Now you need to pay another 60-100 bucks to get the opportunity to see if any of your decisions mattered. Because they sure didn't matter in this game. People, get off the ryncol... Don't be ridiculous. You would rather have so called 'big decisions' ultimately being pointless? People moaned about that endlessly with the MET. And lest you forget - how did you see the impact of your wrex decision without paying another 60 colonial currency?Well, if you killed him, he was dead In ME1 it was possible to be left with only 2 companions after Virmire with others being dead or never recruited. Andromeda may be the first Bioware game I've played where you don't have any choice on who you travel with. You have to recruit all of them, they can't leave\die and you can't be in conflict with any of them.
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Post by jpcab on Apr 15, 2017 12:38:46 GMT
Ryder is a blank character so far. Shepard never was that even on ME 1. Shepard is a legend on games history. The OP should recognise that cuz andromeda already prooved that..its just another game.its a good game but only that. If Shepard is less on anything compared to Ryder,stupidity ain t one of them surely. At least with him we could shape his personality as simple it was the p/r system. Less though fits well Ryder compared to Shepard yeah. Because andromeda is less in everything compared to the trilogy even on its better feature the combat..cuz what they resolve to do with squad members is just an idiotic thing
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Post by vonuber on Apr 15, 2017 13:24:29 GMT
Well, if you killed him, he was dead In ME1 it was possible to be left with only 2 companions after Virmire with others being dead or never recruited. Andromeda may be the first Bioware game I've played where you don't have any choice on who you travel with. You have to recruit all of them, they can't leave\die and you can't be in conflict with any of them. Agree with the first bit, but in my game jaal won't talk to me at all. Don't know how long it goes on for but it's been a few missions so far.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 13:37:54 GMT
Ryder is a blank character so far. Shepard never was that even on ME 1. Shepard is a legend on games history. I'm not sure what you mean by blank, because the Ryder twins have their own unique backgrounds that colors their dialogue and the ability to express certain interests, like Sara Ryder's background going on prothean expeditions and such. That it's far more modest, than, say, battling Batarians during the blitz doesn't make it blank.
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 15, 2017 13:39:16 GMT
Well, if you killed him, he was dead In ME1 it was possible to be left with only 2 companions after Virmire with others being dead or never recruited. Andromeda may be the first Bioware game I've played where you don't have any choice on who you travel with. You have to recruit all of them, they can't leave\die and you can't be in conflict with any of them. Agree with the first bit, but in my game jaal won't talk to me at all. Don't know how long it goes on for but it's been a few missions so far. I think it ends when you bring the Moshae back to Aya. I didn't notice any change in dialogue or anything, if you progress the main quest right away you probably won't even notice that he had any change in attitude towards you.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 15, 2017 14:03:43 GMT
Nope he's still pissed after aya. I'm about to land not kadira and he still has the hump.
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Post by mfr001 on Apr 15, 2017 14:14:54 GMT
I'd like to point out that comedians rarely become leaders. True, the clowns have a monopoly.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 14:35:07 GMT
Nope he's still pissed after aya. I'm about to land not kadira and he still has the hump. I'm pretty certain he stays upset through to the end of his personal quest.
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Post by jpcab on Apr 15, 2017 14:37:46 GMT
Ryder is a blank character so far. Shepard never was that even on ME 1. Shepard is a legend on games history. I'm not sure what you mean by blank, because the Ryder twins have their own unique backgrounds that colors their dialogue and the ability to express certain interests, like Sara Ryder's background going on prothean expeditions and such. That it's far more modest, than, say, battling Batarians during the blitz doesn't make it blank. Emotions and feelings Kaiser...that is the diference. I know the efforts andromeda writers did to fulfill the Ryders personality. But when i say blank i mean the empathy with us players. And i think i can say for a fact...they have failed.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 14:41:38 GMT
I didn't know that we had an Official Players' Spokesperson in our midst. I'm always the last to find these things out.
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Post by Civ on Apr 15, 2017 14:43:48 GMT
Not sure Ryder would ever get to where Shep ended up. Not sure if it's intelligence or not - but I would bet on Shep anyday.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 15, 2017 14:48:06 GMT
Not sure Ryder would ever get to where Shep ended up. Not sure if it's intelligence or not - but I would bet on Shep anyday. What, talking to ghost boy? I bloody hope not.
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Post by bizantura on Apr 15, 2017 15:00:41 GMT
Shepard and the MET was written around a "hero archetype", that was the major tenet and carrier of the game.
The Ryders and MEA feels not written around a specific archetype but definitely with feminization agenda in mind. The Ryder twins are blank canvasses and the rest of the cast mostly irritating rescue dreamers locked up in emotions absent of much sense and of course the odd mandatory psychopath to balance the two out.
The first trilogy wanted to be nothing more than a good game written around an interesting but much-used archetype. MEA is propaganda first and game second = big difference.
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Post by jpcab on Apr 15, 2017 15:04:01 GMT
I didn't know that we had an Official Players' Spokesperson in our midst. I'm always the last to find these things out. Kaiser its not official obviously its my opinion but also the impressiom of the game community. Ask around. But i think you too can recognize what i said to.
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 15, 2017 15:18:57 GMT
Nope he's still pissed after aya. I'm about to land not kadira and he still has the hump. I'm pretty certain he stays upset through to the end of his personal quest. I just checked- when I try talking to him camera enters cinematic mode, he turns around and cinematic mode ends. He doesn't say anything, so I guess it's a bug though he might still be angry. His last cut-scene worked normally though. PS. (I'm past Kadara)
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 15, 2017 15:29:09 GMT
Not sure Ryder would ever get to where Shep ended up. Not sure if it's intelligence or not - but I would bet on Shep anyday. Man, I hope Ryder doesn't get to where Shepard ended up.
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