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Post by Psychevore on Apr 16, 2017 8:45:27 GMT
Well it's utter baws innit. Every white male Ryder I've seen look closer related than default Sera and Scott. Only 1 preset and you can barely change it. Not sure what you mean, did your mission to make a semi-decent Ryder fail or do you genuinely think that thing looks good? Bwaha. 'That thing'.
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Post by unwanted on Apr 16, 2017 9:04:42 GMT
Well it's utter baws innit. Every white male Ryder I've seen look closer related than default Sera and Scott. Only 1 preset and you can barely change it. Not sure what you mean, did your mission to make a semi-decent Ryder fail or do you genuinely think that thing looks good? Bwaha. 'That thing'. Now, now Gents. Lay your weapons down and move away from the keyboard.
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Post by Matterthief on Apr 16, 2017 11:56:26 GMT
It's a flat out disaster, not so much a character creator as preset editor. Inquisition's CC wasn't great, had a horrible selection of hairstyles, but is still a masterpiece compared to this.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 16, 2017 12:25:58 GMT
It needs work, but it's not impossible to use.
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Post by Elsariel on Apr 16, 2017 12:48:10 GMT
The problem with the CC isn't that you ant make good-looking characters. It's that you can't make them look how YOU want them to look. For me, I have this weird thing where I like to make "snow white" type characters. I did it in DAO, DA2, DAI, etc. Super fair skin, black hair, blue or brown eyes, and red lips. Exhibit A: imgur.com/a/OCCLfBut I can't do this with the MEA CC. Mostly because I just cant make a character with fair enough skin. Ain't the end of the world but kinda annoying.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 16, 2017 12:52:47 GMT
Worst CC I've ever seen in a BW game, and BW isn't exactly known for having great CC's. So yeah...
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Post by Neyjour on Apr 16, 2017 13:00:45 GMT
I was expecting a new and improved version of the DA:I CC, or at the very least, something on par with it. What we got is incredibly disappointing. It's basically a gutted, highly-restrictive version of the DA:I CC. A highly frustrating "Preset Tweaker"... not at all what I would consider a "Character Creator".
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 16, 2017 13:03:22 GMT
they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple Yeah, no. As the Sara and Scott I created, the faces that I now associate with those characters, don't even remotely resemble the defaults. I'd rather keep the character creator we have now than have to use the defaults. Indeed so would I tbh. I wouldn't say it needs a lot of work but it definitely needs some but a lot of the options to me are better than what we had in previous games I think. It's just that there aer fewer of them is all. For example I'd have liked to have used head 9's eyes on my head 8 character so I agree that things like that need to improve. In general though I like what we have it just needs to be less restrictive when it comes to options so we can truly create our own character s with more freedom. Yes DAI's CC was pretty good hairstyles aside and I agree that I'm surprised they just didn't just reuse that with some improvements. But I wouldn't say MEA's is a disaster though as there are definitely worse CC's out there.
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Post by vomder on Apr 16, 2017 13:06:28 GMT
They need to fire whoever was evolved with the CC and start over from scratch so it's not a piece of shit.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 16, 2017 13:10:00 GMT
The problem with the CC isn't that you ant make good-looking characters. It's that you can't make them look how YOU want them to look. For me, I have this weird thing where I like to make "snow white" type characters. I did it in DAO, DA2, DAI, etc. Super fair skin, black hair, blue or brown eyes, and red lips. Exhibit A: imgur.com/a/OCCLfBut I can't do this with the MEA CC. Mostly because I just cant make a character with fair enough skin. Ain't the end of the world but kinda annoying. to be fair that's a problem with probably every CC out ther you have to allow for some limitations as games can't account for every possible look out there. I remember when I tried to make a character that looked like someone from the X factor once. Igot the face mostly right except for the eyye as there wasn't an option for the eyes that I wanted so ended up having to go with something else it's just the way of CC's unfortunately we can only use what we're given and rty to make the best of it that's the challenge.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 16, 2017 13:13:20 GMT
hopefully it will be better in the next game
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Post by brandoftime on Apr 16, 2017 13:19:50 GMT
I wonder if there is much they can do without breaking the CC altogether. If it's tied in to Alec and the sibling it might cause a huge problem later. Maybe they could patch it so that we would click a choice that says "randomize" and they would just provide default Alec who, imho, looks pretty good for most designs. That might avoid serious bugs, who knows? I would love the ability to change eyebrows, like all the other ME games. i don't think that's too much to ask. Also, eye shape. The rest is serviceable, but as shown with added shaders in the latest patch, the eyes are where you make or break it, really. I practiced on Inquisition's CC a few weeks before this game released to get an idea of what I wanted in my character. Needless to say, we all know how that worked out
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Post by Elsariel on Apr 16, 2017 13:24:57 GMT
The problem with the CC isn't that you ant make good-looking characters. It's that you can't make them look how YOU want them to look. For me, I have this weird thing where I like to make "snow white" type characters. I did it in DAO, DA2, DAI, etc. Super fair skin, black hair, blue or brown eyes, and red lips. Exhibit A: imgur.com/a/OCCLfBut I can't do this with the MEA CC. Mostly because I just cant make a character with fair enough skin. Ain't the end of the world but kinda annoying. to be fair that's a problem with probably every CC out ther you have to allow for some limitations as games can't account for every possible look out there. I remember when I tried to make a character that looked like someone from the X factor once. Igot the face mostly right except for the eyye as there wasn't an option for the eyes that I wanted so ended up having to go with something else it's just the way of CC's unfortunately we can only use what we're given and rty to make the best of it that's the challenge. With Bioware specifically, I haven't had this problem until now. I'm aware CCs have limitations, I just have never encountered this particular limitation in a Bioware game until now. *shrug*
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 16, 2017 13:32:48 GMT
to be fair that's a problem with probably every CC out ther you have to allow for some limitations as games can't account for every possible look out there. I remember when I tried to make a character that looked like someone from the X factor once. Igot the face mostly right except for the eyye as there wasn't an option for the eyes that I wanted so ended up having to go with something else it's just the way of CC's unfortunately we can only use what we're given and rty to make the best of it that's the challenge. With Bioware specifically, I haven't had this problem until now. I'm aware CCs have limitations, I just have never encountered this particular limitation in a Bioware game until now. *shrug* well they have said they do plan to upgrade the CC so hopefully it will be better eventually. It'll just take time.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 16, 2017 13:33:37 GMT
The problem with the CC isn't that you ant make good-looking characters. It's that you can't make them look how YOU want them to look. For me, I have this weird thing where I like to make "snow white" type characters. I did it in DAO, DA2, DAI, etc. Super fair skin, black hair, blue or brown eyes, and red lips. Exhibit A: imgur.com/a/OCCLfBut I can't do this with the MEA CC. Mostly because I just cant make a character with fair enough skin. Ain't the end of the world but kinda annoying. to be fair that's a problem with probably every CC out ther you have to allow for some limitations as games can't account for every possible look out there. I remember when I tried to make a character that looked like someone from the X factor once. Igot the face mostly right except for the eyye as there wasn't an option for the eyes that I wanted so ended up having to go with something else it's just the way of CC's unfortunately we can only use what we're given and rty to make the best of it that's the challenge. I spent a few minutes trying to think of one in my 25 or so years of video gaming and I can't think of a single CC from any game where you can't make a single white character. Even putting aside the limited number of adjustment sliders one has in MEA, the inability to change eye/brow/nose/cheek/chin shapes, the small selection of hair types, and the overall aesthetic quality of the presets, we don't have even a single skin tone for anyone paler than a rather swarthy Spaniard? In the case of MEA it is far less a case of "just the way of CC's" and feels a lot more like BW telling us "these are the kind of characters you should be playing". Frankly I'd even rather have ME1's CC just dropped down into the middle of MEA. Bad textures with low poly meshes and all. At the very least give me some pale, fair, and rosy colored skin tones. Some varying choices for complexion would be great as well.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Apr 16, 2017 14:18:26 GMT
It's okay. I'd like to see improvements made to hair (Head, Facial, eyebrows ) and eye shape. Otherwise, I'm fine.
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Post by doch on Apr 16, 2017 14:53:44 GMT
to be fair that's a problem with probably every CC out ther you have to allow for some limitations as games can't account for every possible look out there. I remember when I tried to make a character that looked like someone from the X factor once. Igot the face mostly right except for the eyye as there wasn't an option for the eyes that I wanted so ended up having to go with something else it's just the way of CC's unfortunately we can only use what we're given and rty to make the best of it that's the challenge. With Bioware specifically, I haven't had this problem until now. I'm aware CCs have limitations, I just have never encountered this particular limitation in a Bioware game until now. *shrug* Haha Andromeda's tight CC limitations are intentional.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 16, 2017 15:02:41 GMT
I thought we were gonna get an upgrade in the CC with more adjustments like the options to adjust nose, eyes, mouth etc but instead they just gave us two short hair styles, what the hell was that about? The CC is terrible as it is now. Even DAI CC was better imo and that sucked big time with all those balled hair cuts filling it up to the edge. Two? werent they four or something? And sure the CC kinda sucked but I understand why it was so limited, animations are hard to do with a lot of options? well the jokes is on them.
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Post by atalante on Apr 16, 2017 15:41:54 GMT
They need to fire whoever was evolved with the CC and start over from scratch so it's not a piece of shit. Guys please, let's be nice... I can't read any critical subject without finding some with hunt here or there. Just like for the animations. But really, a game's fault are rarely one man's fault. Just like for the animations, there is this post on the forum where an animator is ranting because of what people are saying about his co-workers and at the same time shows what a great work animators do when they are given the possibility. Clearly the issue is a problem of resources and timetable management, and even then, we can't know exactly what problems the management had to face during the course of development. To close the question, where I do 100% blame BW/EA, is their pre-release review blocus strategy. The only explanation I have is that they are tweaking their PR to give the feeling they "play by the rules" (one can be informed pre-release through youtube or reddit from early access players, who probably are fanboys as they have to pay early access), while doing their best to ensure most people who don't try to actively inform themselves won't know anything (end of review blocus only one day before release, while most developers who play nice end the blocus 1 week before release). I am not excusing anything about the state of the game, just reminding that targeting someone in particular is unfair toward this person, and is anyway not the way to move on. Yep, the CC is terrible as it is (I think BW has already improvement of CC and hairs in the 2 months roadmap), I even think that the CC is the worst made by BW (since ME1) as you can just ajust a bit around the presets (which are mostly ugly). As for the hairs, they look like LEGO characters. Even without speaking of rebuilding from scratch, BW will have to do a major work to improve the CC to an acceptable level.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 15:45:28 GMT
Needs a little help for the males, mainly to add complexions and hairstyles. Females I like how they are.
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Post by timebean on Apr 16, 2017 15:51:27 GMT
I swear sometimes it feels like Bioware did this shite CC on purpose to create controversy.
When I think about how many times I have posted random shit on the forums with little thought, compared to the agonizingly meticulous and reworded posts that I have to make regarding the CC...all to make sure I don't sound racist. Replacing "white" with "Caucasian" or "pale" or "eastern European". Making sure my posts have just enough of the apologetic tone to not be attacked, etc.
Since I am sick to death of it, I am just going to say it and be done.
- The asian, indian, and black presets are relatively attractive.
- The white preset is a fucking monstrosity (and her skin is pink, rather than white).
- The other preset that you can make fairly pale has disgusting squid lips that look like an old lady who smoked for years.
- You cannot make a pretty white woman in the CC. Please don't show me your pics. I have seen them, and they look like ass.
- On top of this, the default white woman looks like a derp. She is basically meme fodder.
So that is why it sucks for me. I want to play an attractive white woman and I can't. I played through as an attractive Asian girl and am now playing through as an attractive Indian girl with freckles. But I can never play through as an attractive white woman. And it sucks for me, cause that it what I would like to do.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 16, 2017 15:57:01 GMT
I swear sometimes it feels like Bioware did this shite CC on purpose to create controversy. When I think about how many times I have posted random shit on the forums with little thought, compared to the agonizingly meticulous and reworded posts that I have to make regarding the CC... all to make sure I don't sound racist. Replacing "white" with "Caucasian" or "pale" or "eastern European". Making sure my posts have just enough of the apologetic tone to not be attacked, etc. Since I am sick to death of it, I am just going to say it and be done. - The asian, indian, and black presets are relatively attractive. - The white preset is a fucking monstrosity (and her skin is pink, rather than white). - The other preset that you can make fairly pale has disgusting squid lips that look like an old lady who smoked for years. - You cannot make a pretty white woman in the CC. Please don't show me your pics. I have seen them, and they look like ass. - On top of this, the default white woman looks like a derp. She is basically meme fodder. So that is why it sucks for me. I want to play an attractive white woman and I can't. I played through as an attractive Asian girl and am now playing through as an attractive Indian girl with freckles. But I can never play through as an attractive white woman. And it sucks for me, cause that it what I would like to do. Spot on. Honestly couldn't disagree with a single word of it. edit: Well except for the part about being careful not to offend. Most of the presets are downright ugly and I've never particularly cared if saying that offends anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 15:58:17 GMT
I swear sometimes it feels like Bioware did this shite CC on purpose to create controversy. When I think about how many times I have posted random shit on the forums with little thought, compared to the agonizingly meticulous and reworded posts that I have to make regarding the CC... all to make sure I don't sound racist. Replacing "white" with "Caucasian" or "pale" or "eastern European". Making sure my posts have just enough of the apologetic tone to not be attacked, etc. Since I am sick to death of it, I am just going to say it and be done. - The asian, indian, and black presets are relatively attractive. - The white preset is a fucking monstrosity (and her skin is pink, rather than white). - The other preset that you can make fairly pale has disgusting squid lips that look like an old lady who smoked for years. - You cannot make a pretty white woman in the CC. Please don't show me your pics. I have seen them, and they look like ass. - On top of this, the default white woman looks like a derp. She is basically meme fodder. So that is why it sucks for me. I want to play an attractive white woman and I can't. I played through as an attractive Asian girl and am now playing through as an attractive Indian girl with freckles. But I can never play through as an attractive white woman. And it sucks for me, cause that it what I would like to do. I actually get what you are saying because I felt that way about the Inquisition cc, that no matter what I was trying to input, to play any attractive female, I had to play a white girl. So, I hope they add the white preset to match the same type of face everyone posts in the numerous threads they make to show how superior the Inquisition cc is. The oval-faced girl, with regular features, and pretty. For males, the problems run deeper, as the small tweaks to the face really Age the face in the game. They will need to add the complexion slider if possible to airbrush the boys.
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Post by timebean on Apr 16, 2017 16:02:27 GMT
I actually get what you are saying because I felt that way about the Inquisition cc, that no matter what I was trying to input, to play any attractive female, I had to play a white girl. So, I hope they add the white preset to match the same type of face everyone posts in the numerous threads they make to show how superior the Inquisition cc is. The oval-faced girl, with regular features, and pretty. For males, the problems run deeper, as the small tweaks to the face really Age the face in the game. They will need to add the complexion slider if possible to airbrush the boys. Agree. I tried to make a male in the CC and he ended up looking 40-50 years old!!
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 16, 2017 16:14:51 GMT
I'm been pretty impressed with the CC, as I've created several pairs of twins. I do wish we had a greater variety of options, but the ones that do exist are very good. We can create a huge variety of characters from these scans, though it may initially seem otherwise. Plus, these scans allowed them to have extremely well done features (eyebrows, skin textures, etc...); a strong family resemblance, and so on.
I can understand why they decided to try these face-scans. I think they needed to include more than 9, though. It also would've been a good idea to have a skilled CC user demonstrate the CC in advance. It's far more capable than many realize; but some are so turned off by its apparent shallowness that they aren't inclined to even try using it.
I voted "needs a little work", since it is good, but more limited than I'd prefer.
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