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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 5:44:15 GMT Zemgus, SKAR, and 8 more like this

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Post by unwanted on Apr 16, 2017 5:44:15 GMT

One of the most important things for me in any Bioware game is my character. If I'm not happy with my character then the game is lost to me. The character creator should be one of highest priority when building a game like Andromeda.

As the human race we are naturally curious and creative. So is it not in our interest to paint beauty where there was none as apposed to cutting the heads of flowers?

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 5:54:13 GMT Trilobite Derby, Panda, and 7 more like this

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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 16, 2017 5:54:13 GMT

I think that the character creator needs quite a lot of work. Regardless of what each preset actually looks like, being able to shuffle through options for each like eyes/eyebrows, mouths, noses, complexions and so forth would easily counter any issues people might have with a face which has a structure they like but details they don't. It's really curious that these things aren't present. Like, simply making a freckle-faced redhead seems like an impossibility. The hair is nothing special, but at least a significant improvement over Inquisition's, which is more feint praise.

I'm thoroughly satisfied with the character I ended up with, but that's only because I was lucky enough to find settings that suited me most within its serious limitations. If I tried to make an alternate, it would take a hell of a lot of tweaking.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT

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Post by derrame on Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

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Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT derrame said:

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:07:56 GMT Eestiny, turianlannister, and 2 more like this

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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 6:07:56 GMT

I really like how my male ryder came out but I'll be damned if I can make a good female one that doesn't look like the same two or three good female ones I have seen out there already. Reminds me of how so many femsheps looked exactly the same despite it not being the default. I think it was a modification to the default. She looked good though. But here, Sara's face hurts.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:11:19 GMT KaiserShep, HunterKipling, and 10 more like this

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Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT derrame said:

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

Yeah, no. As the Sara and Scott I created, the faces that I now associate with those characters, don't even remotely resemble the defaults. I'd rather keep the character creator we have now than have to use the defaults.

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Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT derrame said:

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

I never use the defaults so no.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:32:45 GMT turianlannister likes this

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Post by Warrior DM on Apr 16, 2017 6:32:45 GMT

Well for one, I would be happy with better looking facial hair for Ryder.

Though I am now personally attached to default Scott Ryder after my first playthrough..

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:35:25 GMT Eestiny, turianlannister, and 4 more like this

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Post by unwanted on Apr 16, 2017 6:35:25 GMT

I lost count of the restarts I made trying to find a fem-Ryder that didn't end up looking like a gormless twit. I did end up with a fem-Ryder that I didn't hate. I still wasn't happy with her, but at least I didn't hate the way she looked.

My first attempts were directed at making a fem shep, but to no avail. I say a fem-shep even though I would look on her to be a fem-Ryder. It's just that fem-shep looked every part the space heroine, if you get my meaning.

As the human race we are naturally curious and creative. So is it not in our interest to paint beauty where there was none as apposed to cutting the heads of flowers?

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:40:25 GMT llandwynwyn, turianlannister, and 1 more like this

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Post by Lazarus on Apr 16, 2017 6:40:25 GMT

The character creator is lacking so much that it seems like they did it purposefully.

I was able to make a good male Ryder that I liked, but the defaults I can't stand.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:48:23 GMT turianlannister likes this

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Post by Pearl on Apr 16, 2017 6:48:23 GMT

From what I've been able to tell, the gameshark strategy for this character creator is to go for a middle-of-the-road skin tone, most of the very pale and very mandingo Ryders I tried to make didn't look very good until I adjusted the skin tone accordingly. I guess I could mess around with it some more in the future but I'm not exactly optimistic.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 6:50:34 GMT zarrokhai, rheia, and 1 more like this

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Apr 16, 2017 6:40:25 GMT Lazarus said:

The character creator is lacking so much that it seems like they did it purposefully.

I was able to make a good male Ryder that I liked, but the defaults I can't stand.

Yeah, I made a pretty good looking male Ryder. Unfortunately that's not the way I wanted to play it.

Bioware really has something against women looking like women. Maybe they perceive women as being aliens or ugly men.

As the human race we are naturally curious and creative. So is it not in our interest to paint beauty where there was none as apposed to cutting the heads of flowers?

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Apr 16, 2017 6:50:34 GMT unwanted said:

Apr 16, 2017 6:40:25 GMT Lazarus said:

The character creator is lacking so much that it seems like they did it purposefully.

I was able to make a good male Ryder that I liked, but the defaults I can't stand.

Yeah, I made a pretty good looking male Ryder. Unfortunately that's not the way I wanted to play it.

Bioware really has something against women looking like women. Maybe they perceive women as being aliens or ugly men.

You're not suppose to be able to make a good looking femryder because that would be an unrealistic standard that women can't achieve.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 7:13:41 GMT turianlannister and TaranTatsuuchi like this

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Post by VanSinn on Apr 16, 2017 7:13:41 GMT

Character creators are relatively low on my list of priorities for games. As long as I can make a decent character, I'm ok. However, the facial animations in this game, while not all that bad most of the time (there are a few pretty bad spots, but overall not bad) can be blown fairly well out of proportion if you make the mouth a bit too wide, or too close to the nose, or what have you. So I've spent waaaaaaay more time in the CC in this game than I usually do.

And I can tell you that I've come up with a couple of pretty decent Ryders, both male and female...but they were annoyingly tricky to get "just right."

So, while CC is pretty low on my list of priorities, I'm fully in agreement that this one could use a lot of work. DA:I level isn't necessary for me, but more options in this one would go a long way.

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Your opinion of the Character creator. Apr 16, 2017 7:14:03 GMT coldwetn0se, turianlannister, and 8 more like this

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Post by R'Shara on Apr 16, 2017 7:14:03 GMT

Ugh the CC is terrible. Why, exactly, can't we just have options like skin type, eyebrow type, mouth type, so that we can actually make the character we want? I want Head 4's general facial structure (or at least, what I can modify it to) and lips, with Head 9's skin tone and eyebrows. Why is this not possible?

ME2 you could do all of that. ME3 at least you could do SOME of that. MEA just went 3 steps back.

Don't even get me started on the plastic...nay, clay-like, hair. It's literally the same textures and style as ME1, and that was HOW long ago? Can we say "transparency map" Bioware?

And to add insult to injury, you can't actually see how your character looks in game until you sit through the 10 minute UNSKIPPABLE prologue. And once you do THAT, if you don't like your character, you can't save that preset and go back and just edit the bits that look weird (unless you are online and connected to be able to upload/import it). You have to start from scratch. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Post by Soulforge on Apr 16, 2017 7:20:13 GMT

The CC was my main problem during early access. It needs a lot of work to be comparable to DAI.

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DAI Options (63 fields)

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1. Face Shape
2. Skin Tone
3. Complexion
4. Eye Color
5. Hair
6. Hair Color
7. Beard
8. Ear Size
9. Ear Position
10. Earlobe Size
11. Cheekbones
12. Cheek Shape
13. Brow Size
14. Forehead
15. Eye Shape
16. Eye Size
17. Eye Position
18. Eye Rotation and Spacing
19. Eyebrow Style
20. Eyebrow Position
21. Eyelash Style
22. Outer Iris Color
23. Inner Iris Color
24. Nose Shape
25. Nose Size
26. Nose Position
27. Nose Bridge Size
28. Bridge Position
29. Nose Tip Size
30. Nose Tip Position
31. Nostril Size
32. Broken Nose
33. Mouth Shape
34. Mouth Width
35. Mouth Position
36. Lip Thickness
37. Jawline
38. Jaw Size
39. Jowls
40. Chin Size
41. Chin Shape
42. Double Chin
43. Adam’s Apple
44. Scars
45. Scar Intensity
46. Scar Horizontal Position
47. Scar Vertical Position
48. Tattoo Design
49. Tattoo Color
50. Eye Shadow Color
51. Eye Shadow Intensity
52. Under-Eye Color
53. Under-Brow Color
54. Under-Brow Intensity
55. Eyelash Color
56. Eyeliner Color
57. Eyeliner Intensity
58. Blush Color
59. Blush Intensity
60. Lip Color
61. Lip Color Intensity
62. Lip Liner Color
63. Lip Shine

MEA Options (43 fields)

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1. Skin Tone
2. Brow Height
3. Brow Depth
4. Cheek Height
5. Cheek Width
6. Cheekbone Width
7. Chin Height
8. Chin Depth
9. Chin Width
10. Jaw Width
11. Eye Height
12. Eye Depth
13. Eye Width
14. Lip Thickness
15. Mouth Height
16. Mouth Depth
17. Mouth Width
18. Nose Height
19. Nose Depth
20. Nose Width
21. Nose Size
22. Hair Style
23. Hair Color
24. Facial Hair Style
25. Outer Color
26. Inner Color
27. Eyeliner Style
28. Eyeliner Opacity
29. Eyeliner Color
30. Eye Shadow Style
31. Eye Shadow Opacity
32. Eye Shadow Color
33. Lipstick Style
34. Lipstick Opacity
35. Lipstick Gloss
36. Lipstick Color
37. Blush Style
38. Blush Opacity
39. Blush Color
40. Scar Style
41. Scar Intensity
42. Tattoo Style
43. Tattoo Color

A few notes:

Some options in are consolidated in DAI's CC, such as Mouth Height/Depth in MEA is just Mouth Position in DAI.
I'm not entirely sure why DAI has eye color in one category, and then outer/inner iris later in the creator.
One of MEA's main strengths over DAI is hair. DAI doesn't have the same hair color variety and has over a dozen versions of bald or near-bald.
It is much easier to make a believable non-white character in DAI.
DAI's sculpting and scars blow MEA's out of the water.
Dragon Age CCs have usually been more powerful, but they don't spend resources on marketing defaults in the same way.

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Apr 16, 2017 7:04:29 GMT Lazarus said:

Apr 16, 2017 6:50:34 GMT unwanted said:

Yeah, I made a pretty good looking male Ryder. Unfortunately that's not the way I wanted to play it.

Bioware really has something against women looking like women. Maybe they perceive women as being aliens or ugly men.

You're not suppose to be able to make a good looking femryder because that would be an unrealistic standard that women can't achieve.

If this is indeed what feminist believe, then they have a really low opinion of themselves. They need to look further than their own mirror and see a world brimming with powerful beautiful women. Yes, it's reality knocks.

As the human race we are naturally curious and creative. So is it not in our interest to paint beauty where there was none as apposed to cutting the heads of flowers?

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Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT derrame said:

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

No just no
Character creator in Andromeda is OK, not good, but ok, you can do good looking Ryders following some guide or trying and experimenting multiple times. They can do a lot of improvements for sure, and they said they'll do, so in my next playthrough I'll go with a very different Sara than the one I have now, or perhaps I'll play Scott and customize his appearance with new options that will be after various patches.

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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 16, 2017 7:55:58 GMT

I thought we were gonna get an upgrade in the CC with more adjustments like the options to adjust nose, eyes, mouth etc but instead they just gave us two short hair styles, what the hell was that about? The CC is terrible as it is now. Even DAI CC was better imo and that sucked big time with all those balled hair cuts filling it up to the edge.

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Apr 16, 2017 6:00:52 GMT derrame said:

they should just remove the character creator and just leave two options, default male Ryder and default female Ryder, simple

Lol. I won't be playing the games then.

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Apr 16, 2017 7:04:29 GMT Lazarus said:

Apr 16, 2017 6:50:34 GMT unwanted said:

Yeah, I made a pretty good looking male Ryder. Unfortunately that's not the way I wanted to play it.

Bioware really has something against women looking like women. Maybe they perceive women as being aliens or ugly men.

You're not suppose to be able to make a good looking femryder because that would be an unrealistic standard that women can't achieve.

Mision failed.

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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 16, 2017 8:35:31 GMT

Well it's utter baws innit. Every white male Ryder I've seen look closer related than default Sera and Scott. Only 1 preset and you can barely change it.

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Mision failed.

Not sure what you mean, did your mission to make a semi-decent Ryder fail or do you genuinely think that thing looks good?

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