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Post by Catilina on Jun 29, 2018 12:53:57 GMT
Hawke is the best RPG protagonist ever. Oh yes. Narrowly ahead of the mad god Sheogorath. I love Sheogorath! My fav daedra prince! A good analogy to my Hawke(s).
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jun 29, 2018 16:37:44 GMT
Oh yes. Narrowly ahead of the mad god Sheogorath. I love Sheogorath! My fav daedra prince! A good analogy to my Hawke(s).That makes way too much sense.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 29, 2018 23:32:26 GMT
Does anyone else here dislike Leandra?
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Post by Catilina on Jun 29, 2018 23:35:23 GMT
Does anyone else here dislike Leandra? Someone better than Gamlen. Not me, I'm neutral, but I read many opinions about it.
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Post by copper on Jun 30, 2018 2:58:39 GMT
Does anyone else here dislike Leandra? Yep. We see her blame Hawke for their younger sibling dying in Lothering, blame Hawke again for whatever happens to their other sibling, and never see her apologize. She also goes on about how the Amell estate is rightfully hers, yet refuses to get off her butt and get a job, never mind that her children have to work or that she's mooching off her brother. Then when she finally gets her estate she leaves Gamlen in his shitty house, presumably without paying rent or compensation for her time living with him.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jun 30, 2018 7:41:55 GMT
Does anyone else here dislike Leandra? Someone better than Gamlen. Not me, I'm neutral, but I read many opinions about it. I love Gamlen - where would Hawke be without a no-good uncle?
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Post by Catilina on Jun 30, 2018 11:00:04 GMT
Someone better than Gamlen. Not me, I'm neutral, but I read many opinions about it. I love Gamlen - where would Hawke be without a no-good uncle? Yes, same here. Gamlen's great grumpy burned out bastard, so living with his prejudices and crude manners. He was not always like this: he helped Malcolm and Leandra, and nursed his parents. And he helped again. In his own way, but still. And it seems, he really loved Leandra.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 30, 2018 13:17:44 GMT
Does anyone else here dislike Leandra? Yep. We see her blame Hawke for their younger sibling dying in Lothering, blame Hawke again for whatever happens to their other sibling, and never see her apologize. She also goes on about how the Amell estate is rightfully hers, yet refuses to get off her butt and get a job, never mind that her children have to work or that she's mooching off her brother. Then when she finally gets her estate she leaves Gamlen in his shitty house, presumably without paying rent or compensation for her time living with him. Gamlen: You have to BE someone to live in that house again. Leandra: Then I'd better get started. *continues to sit on her ass while Hawke does all the work*
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jun 30, 2018 15:01:06 GMT
Re Leandra, I'm sure she does plenty for the household. It's not the 21st century, so no vacuum cleaners, microwave or supermarket. Someone's got to keep the family fed, house and clothes clean, dog looked after etc. and I can't imagine Gamlen does it. Hell, keeping Gamlen out of trouble is probably close to a full time job by itself. It's a very modern outlook that if you're not doing paid work you're not doing anything.
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Post by Walter Black on Jun 30, 2018 15:12:59 GMT
Re Leandra, I'm sure she does plenty for the household. It's not the 21st century, so no vacuum cleaners, microwave or supermarket. Someone's got to keep the family fed, house and clothes clean, dog looked after etc. and I can't imagine Gamlen does it. Hell, keeping Gamlen out of trouble is probably close to a full time job by itself. It's a very modern outlook that if you're not doing paid work you're not doing anything. But none of that is shown in the game proper, nor does Leandra herself imply any of it to deflect Gamlen's rants.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 30, 2018 15:16:44 GMT
Re Leandra, I'm sure she does plenty for the household. It's not the 21st century, so no vacuum cleaners, microwave or supermarket. Someone's got to keep the family fed, house and clothes clean, dog looked after etc. and I can't imagine Gamlen does it. Hell, keeping Gamlen out of trouble is probably close to a full time job by itself. It's a very modern outlook that if you're not doing paid work you're not doing anything. Perhaps. But I'm not sure if she cooks, because when she gets angry at the idea of paying rent, Gamlen says this as an alternative: "Maybe, uh... put something towards food".
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Post by Yermogi on Jul 5, 2018 0:17:21 GMT
I'm going to be frank- I enjoyed Fenris and Anders as romances in the game, but I know that if I were really Hawke and I really knew the two of them as people, I would hate them both. Or at least, I would come to dislike them both.
Fenris is a close-minded, violent, judgmental, uncaring, paranoid guy who dislikes and distrusts everyone and everything. He's awful to every mage, and he disregards the negative, sometimes horrific, completely valid experiences, complaints and fears that mages have. Yes, he had a nightmarish life. But so did many mages, and he acted like they brought it on themselves because they had powers they didn't choose and abilities they often didn't want. My Hawke would have eventually had to have words with him, mage or no. Also, he leaves you after you sleep with him, but if you flirt with anyone else he acts like a martyr when it's brought up. I would have LOVED to have a conversation with him in which my Hawke could call him out on his bullshit treatment of her, and made it clear that if he wants to renew that relationship, he would have to seriously step it up. Now granted, I haven't played DAII in a while, but I don't recall that being an option. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now Anders started out amazing. He was funny, clever, compassionate, and willing to help anyone in need. My problem with him came towards the last act when he became seriously depressed and depressing. On the one hand, I get it- it was a dark time, nothing he did to help the mages was working, whether it was peaceful protesting or smuggling them out of Kirkwall, and things were getting worse and worse by the day. It makes sense that his outlook should start getting darker, especially since he had justice. On the OTHER hand, if you romance him or become his friend, I feel that there should have been a less dramatic turn in his character. The Hero of Kirkwall, especially as a mage, was helping to turn things around. People were starting to care about the mages. People were starting to look at the problem and say "You know what, this needs to change." Having that support and seeing that change, I feel, should have helped Anders to stay calm(er) and not become so negative. Perhaps the explosion of the chantry could have been an idea he had but discarded, but was then taken up by other mages. I dunno, I just felt like by the third act, it would have been very difficult to spend any time with him at all since it seemed all he did was talk about mages. And maybe it's just me, it just seems like that positive support should have had a greater impact.
I don't really have opinions of Merrill and Isabel, other than Merrill was cute and Isabel was a pirate version of Zevran. But that may just be me because I only like guys. Anyway, those are my unpopular opinions.
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Post by Sokemis on Jul 5, 2018 2:56:47 GMT
Yermogi - as much as I might have loved both of them, especially Fenris, I agree that I wish there had an opportunity to call both of them out on their bullshit. With Fenris, I especially wish I could have laid into him after his conversation with Merrill following the quest A New Path (especially since said conversation triggered while walking back from the quest, when emotions were probably even higher). And as far as the romance goes, I feel Hawke took him back too easy in Act 3, even if they understood why he left in the first place (which personally I feel was more complicated than the game's explanation of "the memories were too much". I have to headcanon that the two of them actually did have some conversations about their relationship, and that Fenris made signs of his affections still being there even if he didn't feel he could actually act on them, during those intervening three years to accept it. I think for game reasons, it would always have to be Anders that detonated the bomb, but I think his final quest (at least his dialogue) should have gone differently depending on friendship vs rivalry vs neutral. I seriously wanted to just go off on him when he accused Hawke of not really caring about mages when they refuse to help him at the end of the quest Justice (regardless of how pro-mage Hawke had been to that point). Dude had just admitted to lying about why he needed to collect those ingredients, but won't tell Hawke why he really needed them or why he needed to sneak into the Chantry, then makes Hawke to be the bad person when they question Anders' intentions. {I have this mental image of my Hawke just loosing it at that point, switching to other languages when she runs out of things to yell at him in Common (even if Hawke isn't truly multilingual, I like to think she can curse in many languages, lol). While that's going on, Varric and Isabella - who accompanied them on the quest - are leaning against the door of the clinic with a running commentary going: Varric commenting that Fenris must have taught her some choice Tevene in return for the reading lessons; Isabella beaming with pride when Hawke switches to Rivaini; both of them wonder where Hawke picked up those particular Elvish phrases, because neither of them can believe that sweet Merrill would even know them let alone teach them to Hawke...}
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Post by Iddy on Jul 10, 2018 21:56:17 GMT
The Theirin bloodline is nothing but unkingly, whiny manchildren.
And considering that they always spawn carbon copies of themselves, I think I made the right call in ending their rule by not making Alistair king.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jul 12, 2018 7:01:48 GMT
The Theirin bloodline is nothing but unkingly, whiny manchildren. That's not true. They're also bloodthirsty vengeful killers.
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Post by lilyonce on Jul 27, 2018 15:32:57 GMT
I re-read a passage out of Asunder last night and remembered that Rhys did not care about the slavery he saw in Tevinter. He glamorized it even. It was just part of the glittering exotic flavor of the country to him. 'The mages here are so powerful and free they own slaves. Heh.' Something like that. Alright, that's an exaggeration. Anders approves of selling Fenris into slavery too. It just makes me think that a sizable chunk of Libertarians don't truly care about oppression- they just hate the templars and any restraints on themselves.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 28, 2018 2:50:29 GMT
I re-read a passage out of Asunder last night and remembered that Rhys did not care about the slavery he saw in Tevinter. He glamorized it even. It was just part of the glittering exotic flavor of the country to him. 'The mages here are so powerful and free they own slaves. Heh.' Something like that. Alright, that's an exaggeration. Anders approves of selling Fenris into slavery too. It just makes me think that a sizable chunk of Libertarians don't truly care about oppression- they just hate the templars and any restraints on themselves. Perhaps, Anders didn't care about Fenris, but he cares about the slavery – and the poor people (he's the only who able to care about anyone and anything else than his own people and goals in Hawke's group.) True, he's not a libertarian. And Rhys, so insensible! Blame Wynne... she didn't teach her son, she was a terrible mother! ... Oh, wait...
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 28, 2018 3:09:48 GMT
People who advocate for restrictions on others NEVER want those same restrictions placed on themselves. Fenris approves of doing all kinds of awful shit to mages, purely for the fact of them being mages.
"Boohoo but he has trauma!"
SO DOES ANDERS. SO DO LOTS OF PEOPLE.
How come the trauma of mages matters less than the trauma of Fenris and Cullen? Mages are not any less human. Nevermind that the people who are so afraid of blood magic and abominations advocate for methods that drive mages to go down that path.
You create the monster, and then whine when it stomps on a few buildings.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jul 28, 2018 4:20:10 GMT
Then they should have come up with an institution that doesn't make mages more unstable and less motivated to cooperate. The Circles could have been preserved had they been paying attention and doing something productive about the abuse and the mental damage those surroundings were causing. Instead, they cracked down even harder on the victims rather than the enforcers. I agree on that point. The templars needed more restrictions and/or discipline on their authority over the mages in their circles. In an ideal circle situation the mages and templars should be working together, if templars are actually the best ones to oversee the mages. I'm not sure that it isn't better to have the mages police themselves; still making my mind up on that part. Oh and the circles proooobably shouldn't be under the Chantry's authority. Hasn't seemed to be working too well for them lately. For my part, I'm more than slightly nervous about the idea of mages policing themselves. It seems like every time a group is responsible to nobody but themselves in this setting, it goes horribly wrong. The templars themselves are an example, as the Seekers identifying more with the templars than the mages essentially meant that the templars had a free hand, and way too many of them liked to punch mages in the face with it. I'm not going to say that the Chantry should continue to oversee mages, but I wouldn't like to see mages oversee themselves. And if not the mages and not the Chantry, then who?
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Post by melbella on Jul 28, 2018 5:00:37 GMT
Well, there was this organization that at least tried to treat all sides fairly and had pretty wide support. At least, until the "real" rulers reaized they were becoming obsolete if not flat out useless. What was it, again? Oh, right. The Inquisition. That we were forced to destroy.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jul 28, 2018 5:20:20 GMT
Well, there was this organization that at least tried to treat all sides fairly and had pretty wide support. At least, until the "real" rulers reaized they were becoming obsolete if not flat out useless. What was it, again? Oh, right. The Inquisition. That we were forced to destroy. Part of the reason we were forced to choose between destroying it and submitting to outside oversight was that the Inquisition wasn't doing so well without oversight either. They did provide the means for the Qunari to carry out the Dragon's Breath plan, didn't they? And it wasn't anything any (current) member of the Inquisition did that foiled the plot: rather it was the aid of another person who had traitors inside the Inquisition working for them who exposed the Dragon's Breath plan after his own infiltration brought the Qunari infiltration to his attention.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 28, 2018 6:05:10 GMT
I agree on that point. The templars needed more restrictions and/or discipline on their authority over the mages in their circles. In an ideal circle situation the mages and templars should be working together, if templars are actually the best ones to oversee the mages. I'm not sure that it isn't better to have the mages police themselves; still making my mind up on that part. Oh and the circles proooobably shouldn't be under the Chantry's authority. Hasn't seemed to be working too well for them lately. For my part, I'm more than slightly nervous about the idea of mages policing themselves. It seems like every time a group is responsible to nobody but themselves in this setting, it goes horribly wrong. The templars themselves are an example, as the Seekers identifying more with the templars than the mages essentially meant that the templars had a free hand, and way too many of them liked to punch mages in the face with it. I'm not going to say that the Chantry should continue to oversee mages, but I wouldn't like to see mages oversee themselves. And if not the mages and not the Chantry, then who? Ideally, a new organisation that bases its policies in facts and methodical study, rather than on what a mouldy old book says.
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Post by fylimar on Jul 28, 2018 7:47:01 GMT
I re-read a passage out of Asunder last night and remembered that Rhys did not care about the slavery he saw in Tevinter. He glamorized it even. It was just part of the glittering exotic flavor of the country to him. 'The mages here are so powerful and free they own slaves. Heh.' Something like that. Alright, that's an exaggeration. Anders approves of selling Fenris into slavery too. It just makes me think that a sizable chunk of Libertarians don't truly care about oppression- they just hate the templars and any restraints on themselves. Perhaps, Anders didn't care about Fenris, but he cares about the slavery – and the poor people (he's the only who able to care about anyone and anything else than his own people and goals in Hawke's group.) True, he's not a libertarian. And Rhys, so insensible! Blame Wynne... she didn't teach her son, she was a terrible mother! ... Oh, wait... I agree, Anders had some more lines throughout the game, where he expressed disgust for the darker sides of the Tevinter imperium (blood magic, human sacrifices, slavery), so him wanting to give Fenris back to his master shows, that he really hates Fenris - and vice versa. I don't think, Fenris would have lost any sleep over handing Anders over to Meredith and watch him being made tranquil. I personally like the fact, that they brought in those completely different characters, both traumatised, both strongwilled and ready to fight for their freedom, but with completely different ways of thinking.
As for mages govern themselves: They don't really. They have to obey the law of the land they are living like any other being. And I still think, a combined police force made out of templars and battle mages, would be a good idea to help with magic related crimes.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 28, 2018 13:02:36 GMT
Perhaps, Anders didn't care about Fenris, but he cares about the slavery – and the poor people (he's the only who able to care about anyone and anything else than his own people and goals in Hawke's group.) True, he's not a libertarian. And Rhys, so insensible! Blame Wynne... she didn't teach her son, she was a terrible mother! ... Oh, wait... I agree, Anders had some more lines throughout the game, where he expressed disgust for the darker sides of the Tevinter imperium (blood magic, human sacrifices, slavery), so him wanting to give Fenris back to his master shows, that he really hates Fenris - and vice versa. I don't think, Fenris would have lost any sleep over handing Anders over to Meredith and watch him being made tranquil. I personally like the fact, that they brought in those completely different characters, both traumatised, both strongwilled and ready to fight for their freedom, but with completely different ways of thinking. As for mages govern themselves: They don't really. They have to obey the law of the land they are living like any other being. And I still think, a combined police force made out of templars and battle mages, would be a good idea to help with magic related crimes. Anders does not actively want to give Fenris back to Danarius – he able to fight for him, but he can't hide his relief he will not hear Fenris' rambling about the mages again. But yes, I love their conversations. Many inherently doomed approaching attempts to understand each other, but their past and the situation prevent that – and the frustrations remain. Yet not all of their conversations are so terrible – so: I think, not in this time, not in Kirkwall the situation would be different. (Unpopular opinions – of course...)
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Post by copper on Jul 29, 2018 20:43:53 GMT
Vivienne seems to be pretty unpopular in the forums, but I have to say I'm really looking forward to meeting her when I get around to playing Inquisition. Unlike every other Bioware Ice Queen, for her it's not a front for a male pc to "melt". Vivienne is just a bitch, and I respect that much more than say Morrigan (who comes off as an angsty hipster teenager more than anything).
I'm also interested in her views about the circle, but that's another topic entirely.
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