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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 6, 2016 2:24:40 GMT
Krysae: Memetically bad sniper rifle. I like it, mostly due to SMR's tactic of abusing its AOE damage up to and including shooting the floor to stagger nearby enemies, but usually if I like a given weapon, that's a good indication that it has a major flaw of some sort. VS. Disciple: Rebuilt Asari Pez dispenser that makes a noise when you pull the trigger. Whether or not enemies care is another story. Yes, this is a weird sniper rifle vs. a weird shotgun. That's kind of the same category, right?
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Post by BDaddy1968 on Sept 6, 2016 2:33:48 GMT
The disciple is great for carrying an omniblade. That's about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 2:58:31 GMT
Disciple solely because it can mount the Shotgun Omni Blade. Both are otherwise near equally reprehensible "weapons".
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Post by Terminator Force on Sept 6, 2016 3:06:38 GMT
For Gold I preferred doing the Krysae challenge with Shadow set for tech bursts and hiding reloads. Desciple challenge wasn't as fun because you had to shoot it.
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Post by Robo on Sept 6, 2016 3:36:29 GMT
They both suck balls in terms of functionality, but my vote is for the Krysae.
It looks badass, it was made for fighting reapers, it's an explosive sniper rifle, and the Turians made it. Everyone loves Turians, right?
And the disciple - which doesn't deserve a capital letter - looks ugly, sounds ugly, and tickles enemies. I ain't down with that fufu lame shit.
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 6, 2016 4:00:01 GMT
Krysae still has its uses but they are niche builds, they are good builds tho
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 5:16:23 GMT
Ever try a Krysae on a Sabotuer? Excellent crowd control. Krysae applies ammo very well so for any kits with decent dps powers and decent recharge speed its definitely an asset. The Disciple is a beast on Marksman, Vanguards, and especially part weapons build Drell Adepts. Take Warp Ammo and headhunting become fun with smart choke.
I honestly don't consider either weapon bad as they have their uses (disciple is VERY useful due to light weight, stagger effect, and decent damage). So in choosing between them I'd be more likely to pick the Disciple. More shots per minute by a mile.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 6:53:24 GMT
On goild i always use ze disciple on both asari vanguard and aja;
also saw some1 absolutely wreck everything with krysae and the geth engie
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 6, 2016 7:25:54 GMT
I like to roleplay, so I use the Disciple on the Asari Vanguard and sometimes on the Justicar as-well. I like it, I like the sound and the big pellets and the stagger it sometimes gives you. The damage? Even with the 10% buff and Warp IV after Reave is still laughable.
Krysae? I hate the thing. Hated it when it came out and was a Sniper Reegar equivalent and everyone was using it, I still hate it now.
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Post by HamleticTortoise on Sept 6, 2016 7:27:56 GMT
On goild i always use ze disciple on both asari vanguard and asari adept; also saw some1 absolutely wreck everything with krysae and the geth engie I recently played a match with you with this setup, on white, you were playing a Javelin GI. I actually enjoy this build quite a bit, especially if I end up against geth or cerberus. Both the turret and overload have fast cooldowns, hunter mode helps with the RoF, and the krysae applies ammo really well. Better make sure you use that extra awareness to make sure you are not caught while reloading! I agree completely with SMR, the krysae is fun on a small number of niche builds. GE is what I found to work best for me. I personally don't use the disciple on weapon platforms, though I imagine TSol and AIU in particular can make it work with good consumables, but it's a decent enough choice for both melee kits, as well as for cqc caster classes for some extra damage, and to stagger the occasional mook; the Valkyrie for example can do really well with it (up to gold), as it's light enough that you can mix its buffed (warp+ AF + warp ammo) dps with biotic explosions.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Sept 6, 2016 7:29:39 GMT
Correction: Krysae is not a sniper rifle. It is a long range firecracker thrower with a recoil of a .44 Magnum.
Just wait until I finish up the new weapon rebalance mod, and these weapons will be glorious again. All hail to our new Disciple god!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 8:03:55 GMT
On goild i always use ze disciple on both asari vanguard and asari adept; also saw some1 absolutely wreck everything with krysae and the geth engie I recently played a match with you with this setup, on white, you were playing a Javelin GI. I actually enjoy this build quite a bit, especially if I end up against geth or cerberus. Both the turret and overload have fast cooldowns, hunter mode helps with the RoF, and the krysae applies ammo really well. Better make sure you use that extra awareness to make sure you are not caught while reloading! I agree completely with SMR, the krysae is fun on a small number of niche builds. GE is what I found to work best for me. I personally don't use the disciple on weapon platforms, though I imagine TSol and AIU in particular can make it work with good consumables, but it's a decent enough choice for both melee kits, as well as for cqc caster classes for some extra damage, and to stagger the occasional mook; the Valkyrie for example can do really well with it (up to gold), as it's light enough that you can mix its buffed (warp+ AF + warp ammo) dps with biotic explosions. U have a good memory Sir! that was idd you; and that was awesome
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Post by spacev3gan on Sept 6, 2016 8:56:10 GMT
I actually like those two weapons, at least on the GI.
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Post by Smehur on Sept 6, 2016 9:00:10 GMT
Neither of those is a bad weapon.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 6, 2016 9:11:01 GMT
I was defending the Krysae in the Striker v Vindicator thread, but that doesn't mean I'd prefer it to the Disciple. Disciple has Omniblade, so there's no contest. I use it on the Shadow if I ever get bored of the Piranha, sometimes the Justicar, sometimes my melee HFE. It staggers, which makes it better than some other guns. Also, using it in a pug match I once carried on Hydra as a Justicar led to some of the funniest spectator-mode banter I've ever heard regarding Asari, hair and hairdryers.
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Post by Deerber on Sept 6, 2016 9:20:27 GMT
Shotgun > else.
Just sayin'
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Post by TopTrog on Sept 6, 2016 9:28:05 GMT
I like to roleplay, so I use the Disciple on the Asari Vanguard and sometimes on the Justicar as-well. I like it, I like the sound and the big pellets and the stagger it sometimes gives you. The damage? Even with the 10% buff and Warp IV after Reave is still laughable. Krysae? I hate the thing. Hated it when it came out and was a Sniper Reegar equivalent and everyone was using it, I still hate it now. Pretty much the same here. Pre-nerf Krysae was hilariously OP in a giving-rocket-troopers-a-taste-of-their-own-medicine kind of way, but that got old really quickly. Now I just find it annoying, though it is still usable on Gold with certain setups. Disciple sounds good and I occasionally use it on the Asari Vanguard.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 6, 2016 9:38:05 GMT
Refire and reload delay kill the Krysae - feels arbitrary and annoying.
I do fine with the Disciple Justicar. Just put some warp ammo on and it destroys stuff just as well. Lolzes for Krogan melee charcter who doesn't bother to pull triggers.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 6, 2016 9:46:58 GMT
Refire and reload delay kill the Krysae - feels arbitrary and annoying. I do fine with the Disciple Justicar. Just put some warp ammo on and it destroys stuff just as well. Lolzes for Krogan melee charcter who doesn't bother to pull triggers. The pre-nerf Krysae could double fire, it could shoot much faster, reload delay is a part of the ROF nerf - the slower the ROF the bigger the delay on the reload. It also ignored shieldgate as far as I remember, when no Sniper could at that time (not even the Javelin), because there were no Phasic rounds available. So it was like a ranged shotgun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 10:18:42 GMT
The Krysae wrecks Cerberus and Geth on any infiltrator on gold. I would say even Reapers, with incendiary rounds and a detonating power. Sure, the reload time is annoying, but I find that the area damage, staggering effect and good ammo priming compensates for it.
The Disciple kicks only on the AIU and the GI. I use it almost only on the asari vanguard, for lore reasons. I do like the weapon, as it looks and sounds good, staggers and has decent range and rate of fire, but the damage is really poopy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 10:32:50 GMT
There seems to be a recognisable pattern here, interesting I put the Disciple on the Asari Vanguard, too, also for roleplaying - the same reason I like to put the Striker on my Krogan Shaman. Finishing the double Disciple Challenges sucks, though - if I'm at that (breaking-)point, I usually sigh and put it on the Geth Infiltrator to bring it to an end. Just takes forever on the asari. The Krysae's delay between shots and awkwardly long reload time also make it a chore to use - but I actually like to put it on my Salarian Infiltrator from time to time. It's always nice to find a spot for every gun somewhere
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Post by Arkhne on Sept 6, 2016 10:58:08 GMT
For those who know me, this will probably be predictable.
Disciple: Easy pick for me, before I learnt to love shotguns in ME3, it was the only shotgun I liked. I still like it. I may mock it from time to time, but it has a place in my heart, and none of you can take that away from me. Blammo must shoot the enemies.
Krysae: Ugh, slow firing projectile weapon, means I don't like it (personally), I wont argue against the objective benefits of the gun, or even disagree with any preference for it, it has a lot of merit (probably more than the Disciple, objectively speaking), I just don't like it enough to use it.
Hairdryer for a species with no hair (so what is it REALLY used for) gets the vote as better weapon for me. Put it on a Batarian against Cerberus. Now you can pretend to be slapping them with space dildos. (You're welcome for yet another twisted insight into my disturbed mind that even disturbs me sometimes).
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Post by Clyde on Sept 6, 2016 14:02:16 GMT
I enjoy the Krysae because stagger lock the bad guys and primes beautifully, so I pick that over the Disciple. Works best on power classes, which I love to use, and grenade classes make it almost as good as the Venom.
Almost.
I don't dislike the Disciple, but there are tons of other shotguns that do what it's supposed to do but better: stagger enemies and be lightweight - Wraith, Eviscerator, Piranha - with way more damage. Yes, I know those weapons cause recharge speeds to be like 20-40% more, but the additional damage is worth it and cooldown is for scrubs.
Also - Krysae on a Geth is absurd.
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Post by Sihmm on Sept 6, 2016 14:23:06 GMT
I never tried the Krysae in its heyday. I was too elitist to "sink" to the "level" of using an obviously OP gun that everyone else was using! Silly really. Means I never got to experience it Disciple is a cool gun for cool people. When I first played MP, I mostly used a human vanguard. The Disciple was the first Rare-level gun I equipped on her. Good memories.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 6, 2016 14:46:01 GMT
Hairdryer for a species with no hair (so what is it REALLY used for) gets the vote as better weapon for me. Put it on a Batarian against Cerberus. Now you can pretend to be slapping them with space dildos. (You're welcome for yet another twisted insight into my disturbed mind that even disturbs me sometimes). Apart from the fact that I've never personally experienced having you in Spectator Mode, I would almost suspect you were one of the pugs that had me laughing so hard my poor Justicar could barely finish the wave. Or the next wave. Or the one after that. I've never used it on a Bloodpack character, but with all of the above in mind I can guarantee you I will, soon, and probably continue laughing.
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