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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 14:20:40 GMT
Lol. The BSN is hardly representative of the larger gaming community. More straw manning. I made an argument about the forum opinions. That's it, because that addressed the context of the person I was quoting. If you want to argue or debate whatever it is you're talking about, go for it. On that particular topic, from what I've heard even the general average of reviews isn't that it's trash... it's like at 75% or something. *shrug*
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 14:23:15 GMT
Would you like me to present a list of threads that describe this game as cold diarrhea from this forum? Hint: it is way longer than yours, and doesn't have the same small group circle-jerking the grand MEA defense. Much more interested in polls, when looking for data about opinion. The number of threads is irrelevant, it's basically the same group of folks repeating themselves. Polls reflect everyone here, not just the keyboard warriors.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 28, 2017 14:50:44 GMT
To tell the truth, I'm not sure how unique the Asaris looked in previous games. But I'm pretty sure, at least the quest relevant ones had unique features. Apart from different colors and facial marks. I'm pretty certain most asari NPC's were recycled faces throughout each game, but yeah, there was a better illusion of variety there. Heck, I'm quite sure that ME1 Liara actually has the same facial structure as Nassana Dantius, but the texturing is so different that they end up looking nothing alike.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 14:54:39 GMT
Lol. The BSN is hardly representative of the larger gaming community. Step outside this litter box. Would you like me to present a list of threads that describe this game as cold diarrhea from this forum? Hint: it is way longer than yours, and doesn't have the same small group circle-jerking the grand MEA defense. Glad you like the game. Actually there are a lot of people that do want more of this game and more games in general. If you came across any of the firestorm created by kotoku outside of this forum, you'd see lots of comments from people disappointed when they thought no more ME and no DLC. The amount of haters is small but they are very vocal. Look at this forum as an example. It's like the same five people responsible for most of the trolling. Also, most people don't exactly look around for anything related to their games because they do other things with their time. But when something is released they go out and buy it. The circle jerking actually done by the haters. Sure there were people who didn't like some stuff about the game but best I could tell most of them still liked the game overall.
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Post by thedarkprince on May 28, 2017 15:32:37 GMT
hi there pathfinders, i wanted to start new game+ and i see this issue is still there is so ridiculous, this should be fixed asap That would require Bioware to go back and model hundreds of Asari faces. There is no chance they fix this problem. A fucking problem that should have never happened in the first place.
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Post by darkway1 on May 28, 2017 15:42:51 GMT
While the Asari clones aren't game breaking, or even in the grand scheme of things a massive deal, they do add further to the feeling that the producers of ME:A just didn't give a damn. I still maintain that the Angarans suffering under the same "we don't give a shit" problem are the larger issue. There aren't that many Asari you run into in this game. But there's lots and lots of Angara clones. When I first rescued the Moshae and she offered an alliance I wasn't even aware that Evra was standing right next to her. Just a generic Angaran. Great point,if the Asari were the only race to suffer from CLONES disease,then maybe I could understand some kind of reason for it......but when you take into account all alien species beyond human looking the same,then it strongly suggests a design decision. In context of Bioware's background,the game genre (heavy narrative) and basic story telling........it's a shameful,cheap display of Bioware's "new" direction......it's not good enough.
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Post by ozzie on May 28, 2017 18:14:35 GMT
hi there pathfinders, i wanted to start new game+ and i see this issue is still there is so ridiculous, this should be fixed asap That would require Bioware to go back and model hundreds of Asari faces. There is no chance they fix this problem. A fucking problem that should have never happened in the first place. Three models would probably do for generic unnamed Asari, but that still leaves the named characters. It is beyond belief that they would leave a key crew member on your ship with a generic face... can you imagine how that went? "Check it out, we got Natalie Dormer from Game of Thrones signed up to play Dr Lexi!" .. "Damn, going to need a character model designed for her... Ima go with a cornflower blue...OK Done."
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Post by R'Shara on May 28, 2017 18:18:20 GMT
Earlier in this thread is a variety of screenshots of MET asari. Even NPCs with bit parts looked pretty different.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 28, 2017 18:19:26 GMT
I feel it was the other way around, though I guess it's the same difference. Despite having the same face as every NPC in the universe, Lexi's somehow looks more complete and has a better texture than all the rest.
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Post by abaris on May 28, 2017 18:19:33 GMT
Three models would probably do for generic unnamed Asari, but that still leaves the named characters. It is beyond belief that they would leave a key crew member on your ship with a generic face... can you imagine how that went? "Check it out, we got Natalie Dormer from Game of Thrones signed up to play Dr Lexi!" .. "Damn, going to need a character model designed for her... Ima go with a cornflower blue...OK Done." There are really only four or five Asari you can interact with. Lexi, Sarissa, her possible replacement as pathfinder, Keri and Peebee. One might think that creating five different models instead of just one unique Peebee character might not be too much of an effort. And it would have gone a long way towards not being exposed to that clone wars feeling.
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Post by griffith82 on May 28, 2017 18:21:32 GMT
Look you and I won't agree on this so it's time to stop. Yes they are very similar but I'm not up in arms like most of you.
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Post by goishen on May 28, 2017 20:13:17 GMT
Actually there are a lot of people that do want more of this game and more games in general. If you came across any of the firestorm created by kotoku outside of this forum, you'd see lots of comments from people disappointed when they thought no more ME and no DLC. The amount of haters is small but they are very vocal. Look at this forum as an example. It's like the same five people responsible for most of the trolling. Also, most people don't exactly look around for anything related to their games because they do other things with their time. But when something is released they go out and buy it. The circle jerking actually done by the haters. Sure there were people who didn't like some stuff about the game but best I could tell most of them still liked the game overall. lol Right, we're all doing a big circle jerk. Okay, if that's what you wanna think. Hey, fine by me. Just know that I'm on some boards where the title of the thread is, "Mass Effect : Andromeda : Autism reaches outer space". Where people are saying that this game isn't even worth torrenting. But yah, live in your own little bubble.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 28, 2017 20:18:21 GMT
To be fair, the people pushing the autism thing are kinda stupid.
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Post by abaris on May 28, 2017 20:24:13 GMT
I suspect that this face was meant for her in the beginning, and they just spread it around to every other asari throughout the universe, save Peebee. If BioWare ever decided to go nuts and actually create like 2-3 different faces to alternate the appearances of the asari, Lexi would probably be the only one left with the original. Hers just looks more…complete, if that makes any sense. Regardless if Lexi was supposed to be the role model or any other given Asari, it's certainly not the biggest issue to talk about. It's boring, plain and simple. Boring on the lines of the characters not having any visual personality. So talking with any given Asari had better be Pulitzer material, since there's only the words saving the day and not the visuals. I also thing there's a reason why people home in on the Asari and not the other clones in this game. Asari, apart from their blue color and tentacles, look like human women. So it's in our blood to notice them looking exactly the same. As opposed to Angarans, Krogans or Salarians.
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Post by R'Shara on May 28, 2017 20:24:24 GMT
Here's a page with a variety of asari from the MET. www.giantbomb.com/asari/3015-1582/characters/You can see that they're all pretty distinct. If you look really really closely, a few of them *might* use the same mesh. But the skin texture is really different when that happens, so it's not obvious. (And the difference between that and what they did with Lexi is that they used the *same* skin texture on all the Lexi clones, and just overlaid face markings. As opposed to actually having different face textures, as in the MET.)
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 20:26:33 GMT
Actually there are a lot of people that do want more of this game and more games in general. If you came across any of the firestorm created by kotoku outside of this forum, you'd see lots of comments from people disappointed when they thought no more ME and no DLC. The amount of haters is small but they are very vocal. Look at this forum as an example. It's like the same five people responsible for most of the trolling. Also, most people don't exactly look around for anything related to their games because they do other things with their time. But when something is released they go out and buy it. The circle jerking actually done by the haters. Sure there were people who didn't like some stuff about the game but best I could tell most of them still liked the game overall. lol Right, we're all doing a big circle jerk. Okay, if that's what you wanna think. Hey, fine by me. Just know that I'm on some boards where the title of the thread is, "Mass Effect : Andromeda : Autism reaches outer space". Where people are saying that this game isn't even worth torrenting. But yah, live in your own little bubble.
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Post by q5tyhj on May 28, 2017 20:29:42 GMT
Look you and I won't agree on this so it's time to stop. Yes they are very similar but I'm not up in arms like most of you. How is it even possible to have a disagreement here? As anyone can see in the picture, they're the same face model. So you've either seen the picture (or played the game), or you haven't- agreement or disagreement really aren't in it.
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Post by goishen on May 28, 2017 20:34:32 GMT
Look you and I won't agree on this so it's time to stop. Yes they are very similar but I'm not up in arms like most of you. How is it even possible to have a disagreement here? As anyone can see in the picture, they're the same face model. So you've either seen the picture (or played the game), or you haven't- agreement or disagreement really aren't in it. You're forgetting that these people live in a Scientology like bubble whereby all other forms of disparaging comments are relegated to the world of the haters and fuzzy trolls. While they can go off and live in their la la land and play with the four other people that like the game. *bumps hand against chest and points* Bet you that you think I forgot about you. I didn't numero cinco.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 20:36:06 GMT
Look you and I won't agree on this so it's time to stop. Yes they are very similar but I'm not up in arms like most of you. How is it even possible to have a disagreement here? As anyone can see in the picture, they're the same face model. So you've either seen the picture (or played the game), or you haven't- agreement or disagreement really aren't in it. Because some things bother some people more than others. It's really that simple. I'll give you my own example since I won't speak for anyone else. I'm really good with faces. So, it's always bothered me, the repetitious faces in RPG's. The lacking variability in the asari is just slightly more irritating for something that's always been an irritant. It's a world of varying tastes and opinions, folks. Just the way it is.
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Post by R'Shara on May 28, 2017 20:36:17 GMT
Look you and I won't agree on this so it's time to stop. Yes they are very similar but I'm not up in arms like most of you. How is it even possible to have a disagreement here? As anyone can see in the picture, they're the same face model. So you've either seen the picture (or played the game), or you haven't- agreement or disagreement really aren't in it. Yeah I have no idea.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 20:37:20 GMT
How is it even possible to have a disagreement here? As anyone can see in the picture, they're the same face model. So you've either seen the picture (or played the game), or you haven't- agreement or disagreement really aren't in it. You're forgetting that these people live in a Scientology like bubble whereby all other forms of disparaging comments are relegated to the world of the haters and fuzzy trolls. While they can go off and live in their la la land and play with the four other people that like the game. *bumps hand against chest and points* Bet you that you think I forgot about you. I didn't numero cinco. That's quite the boogeyman you've conjured up.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 28, 2017 20:44:10 GMT
Actually there are a lot of people that do want more of this game and more games in general. If you came across any of the firestorm created by kotoku outside of this forum, you'd see lots of comments from people disappointed when they thought no more ME and no DLC. The amount of haters is small but they are very vocal. Look at this forum as an example. It's like the same five people responsible for most of the trolling. Also, most people don't exactly look around for anything related to their games because they do other things with their time. But when something is released they go out and buy it. The circle jerking actually done by the haters. Sure there were people who didn't like some stuff about the game but best I could tell most of them still liked the game overall. lol Right, we're all doing a big circle jerk. Okay, if that's what you wanna think. Hey, fine by me. Just know that I'm on some boards where the title of the thread is, "Mass Effect : Andromeda : Autism reaches outer space". Where people are saying that this game isn't even worth torrenting. But yah, live in your own little bubble. The real question is why you're so bothered that other people like the game. It's as though it's a personal insult to you. People have different tastes. I like the game. I don't love it. It's last place of the four ME games that have been put out. I see the asari issue as pretty major when it comes to characters you deal with a good amount (pathfinders, doctor and reporter). I also see plenty of other flaws. I just don't invest my hatred in it because...why? At the end of the day, I'm content rather than frustrated. I'm not doing a "circle jerk" about how much I love MEA. I like it, not love it, but apparently you won't be satisfied until you let everyone who enjoyed the game feel like assholes for daring to like something you don't. Or did I get that wrong?
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Post by abaris on May 28, 2017 20:46:37 GMT
It's a world of varying tastes and opinions, folks. Just the way it is. As I said, there's a reason why people home in on Asaris. They look like humans. So it's more obvious since we are used to look at human faces as opposed to the other races. It really got nothing to do with tastes but with our nature to notice there being no defining features in human faces. I also noticed that I ran into that scavenger guy on Eos on numerous occasions without it actually being him but an entirely different generic NPC. He's already in the Cryo bay when waking up. For the first time. There a numerous occasions to see that face model again.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 28, 2017 20:48:19 GMT
I actually compared Morda and Kesh. Pretty sure they also look the same but with different markings on their faces. Not sure how that stacks up against other female krogan.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 28, 2017 20:48:22 GMT
It's a world of varying tastes and opinions, folks. Just the way it is. As I said, there's a reason why people home in on Asaris. They look like humans. So it's more obvious since we are used to look at human faces as opposed to the other races. It really got nothing to do with tastes but with our nature to notice there being no defining features in human faces. I also noticed that I ran into that scavenger guy on Eos on numerous occasions without it actually being him but an entirely different generic NPC. He's already in the Cryo bay when waking up. For the first time. There a numerous occasions to see that face model again. It is a matter of tastes, with regard to how much it bothers one to see repetitive faces. I haven't made an argument that they're not repetitive.
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