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Post by Seera1024 on May 1, 2017 1:28:42 GMT
I did not say that you did not talk to EA about your problem with The Sims 3 and your saves being deleted. What I said was that you can't say that that same problem is definitely the cause for R'Shara's problem. You can say that it may be an Origin problem because the program was at fault for deleting your Sims 3 saves. This is especially true since Origin was released well after Sims 3 was initially released so some of the problems may have been due to compatibility issues that ME:A wouldn't have. Now, if your MEA saves had been deleted and EA had told you it was Origin, then that would be an entirely different issue. No. It's a sync issue. When you've talked with EA about the issue with ME:A then you can came on here and claim that it's the actual cause. Until such time you can only post that it's the likely culprit. I'm not saying that you're wrong, you're likely right - EA doesn't have a good track record with learning from their mistakes, but given that there are other possibilities as to why Origin has issues syncing saves with Sims 3, it can't be said with 100% certainty.
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Post by qwib on May 1, 2017 1:33:33 GMT
When you've talked with EA about the issue with ME:A then you can came on here and claim that it's the actual cause. Until such time you can only post that it's the likely culprit. I'm not saying that you're wrong, you're likely right - EA doesn't have a good track record with learning from their mistakes, but given that there are other possibilities as to why Origin has issues syncing saves with Sims 3, it can't be said with 100% certainty. This is now pure gold. I think I hit close to home with my first post.
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Post by duckley on May 1, 2017 1:38:48 GMT
Fun game, no bugs or glitches for me... having a blast playing The animations were terrible, somewhat better with the patch. Text needs to be larger. I don't need to give them slack as I rate the game 7.5 to 8... and got my money's worth.
For those of you with glitch games that was my Skyrim experience and it really, really sucks.. so I do hope you get a chance to play a fixed game.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 1:39:20 GMT
I don't have any confidence in them and I don't think it's worth giving them a hard time. So yeah... I just don't care anymore...
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Post by R'Shara on May 1, 2017 1:44:35 GMT
Where did I ever say you experienced no bugs? In fact, I quoted you multiple times saying that MEA only had "a couple of bugs."
I also posted a short list of actual BUGS, which you ignored in favor of being dismissive and condescending. But here's another list.
Soft locks. Unable to move the character or bring up the interface without closing and reloading. Losing save files. Which, may be Bioware or EA. But since the TITLE of this thread is EA and Bioware, it is still a bug that I'm not giving EA slack about. FYI, I had syncing and cloud saving off at the time. Missions not complete-able due to the final or interim interaction never triggering. Cutscenes failing to trigger. Conversations failing to trigger. Falling through objects. Getting stuck inside/under/on top of objects. Deluxe edition weapons missing beyond level V. Weapons, armor, augments, mods not dropping between levels 61-71. Crashing on the galaxy map. Crashing on entering/exiting the Nexus. Enemies disappearing/getting stuck inside/under/behind objects and unkillable.
How are these not bugs, and how is anyone experiencing even half of these overreacting when being pissed at the game?
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Post by Seera1024 on May 1, 2017 1:45:08 GMT
When you've talked with EA about the issue with ME:A then you can came on here and claim that it's the actual cause. Until such time you can only post that it's the likely culprit. I'm not saying that you're wrong, you're likely right - EA doesn't have a good track record with learning from their mistakes, but given that there are other possibilities as to why Origin has issues syncing saves with Sims 3, it can't be said with 100% certainty. This is now pure gold. I think I hit close to home with my first post. No, you didn't. I just want to make sure that when others experience the issue and google it, that they don't get wrong information. And at this point, it's wrong for you to say what the cause of R'Shara's problem was. And at this point, I'm going to agree to disagree with you on the issue because nothing you can say will get me to agree to what you're saying. Only R'Shara can. Because while ME:A may have the same sync problem, it may also have other problems that cause it to delete saves as well. And since I've agreed to disagree for the sake of not turning this thread into a broken record and locked, this is the last I will respond to any such issue until new evidence is provided.
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Post by R'Shara on May 1, 2017 1:45:41 GMT
Fun game, no bugs or glitches for me... having a blast playing The animations were terrible, somewhat better with the patch. Text needs to be larger. I don't need to give them slack as I rate the game 7.5 to 8... and got my money's worth. For those of you with glitch games that was my Skyrim experience and it really, really sucks.. so I do hope you get a chance to play a fixed game. Yeah for me, Skyrim only had a few bugs, whereas MEA is a buggy mess. So I'm there with you. Edit: And you know what I did when I talked to people who had bugs in Skyrim when I barely had any? I offered suggestions and sympathized and was thankful that I didn't have the same problems.
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Post by dm04 on May 1, 2017 7:56:02 GMT
Hm isn't that interesting, also never had bugs in Skyrim... maybe Skyrim is interferring with MEA, got it still installed.
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Post by helios969 on May 1, 2017 10:28:20 GMT
No, I'm afraid we do not need to cut them slack. Their job is to put out a product that works for everyone. While I've thoroughly enjoyed my experience and have had only a handful of bugs on PC (remarkable given the 250 hours or so,) it's clear many others are not having such an easy go. With that said, the internet crowd really needs to learn how to filter themselves. Instead of rushing to be the first to post, which most of the time ends up being shallow and disrespectful, people should respond as if a person was sitting across from them. I think we can manage to hold them to a high standard while still be respectful of the tremendous effort put in by hundreds of people. And those that can't, well...they can go f*ck off.
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Post by mofojokers on May 1, 2017 10:36:22 GMT
With any product we have the right to be offended if it is released in a less than satisfactory state at normal cost. To give them slack for such is allowing this type of thing to continue.
Buuuuut if you're ok with this type of shoddy work....
Ps... Still game breaking bugs to this day......contagion still crashes my game when trying to leave the nexus.. 😧
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 1, 2017 11:01:12 GMT
You know again this game reminds me So much of DA 2. In its reception and quality. Both are truly great games buried under a lot of layers of crap...just MEAs flaws are easily fixible as evidenced by plot 1.05. But Biowares two most unique and human stories get widely panned for...well a lot of things tbh...a game where they took a lot of risks and did a lot new...but don't worry if we get another game we'll get another world is ending plot where the Remnant builders turn out to be some evil super.force and we'll get Shepard 2.0 to save them. And some ridiculous final choice forced on us at the last minute. Yeah agreed I personally don't think there is much wrong with the game beyond the glitches and I'd like to think they'er being worked on so the game runs nice and smooth 1.05 has cretainly improved that but there is still a long way to go. After all the game's only been out just over a month now. It hasn't got any DLC yet as I think they realise things need patching up first. Story wise and gameplay wise I'm finding it fine. Took me a while to adjust to the new combat style but it's slowly coming together managed to take down 2 of the Architects over the past couple of days and I'm looking forward to saying hi to the other 2. But yeah other than the glitches which I'm reasonably sure will be fixed I'm thoroughly enjoying the game
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Post by bizantura on May 1, 2017 13:05:46 GMT
I am certainly cured of préordering Bioware games. Stil buggy and via days of tweaking MEA is just playable. Crossfire is still not fixed and probably never will due to using dx11. Characters are awful written which was the greatest fun factor for playing. Some call it "antagonistic", Morrigan may be antagonistic depending on your point of view but Sera and Liam are plain idiots there is nothing antagonistic about them.
Fast paced gameplay streamlined to match MP, no pause, no control of characters, only 3 powers at a time, useless favorites, no real choices or consequences. MEA feels very c*str*ted. As someone eloquently stated above, it is time to f*ck off if you don't like it. I am sure some longtime Bioware players will and giving Bioware slack or no will not change this defacto decapitated product.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 1, 2017 13:46:28 GMT
No slack, they had 5 years. Also, they chose to release an unpolished product. I'd totally understand if there were bugs that missed QA, but the ones at launch were purposely ignored. Yeah, no slack. As a consumer who's spending money, I have a standard of excellence that's to be expected. This game was a mess and currently still is. I really hope Bioware and EA learned their lesson this time. No they weren't. Games always have bugs and it's not true that they were ignored. A day one patch was released and most issues fixed within days. Might want to recheck what ignore means. The Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Final Fantasy XV, Rise of The Tomb Raider, Dragon Age: Inquisition and a ton of other major AAA titles had major patches released to fix bugs and improve graphics and gameplay. Hell Torment: Tides of Numeria just got a massive 6 gig patch and it's crowd funded game that is more or less a glorified indie game.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 1, 2017 13:54:29 GMT
They're only human after all.... eyyyyyy Respectfully, I think the word isn't "slack" it's "perspective". The hyperbolic yammering, while usual and typical, still is hyperbolic yammering.
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Post by cheeseandonion on May 1, 2017 13:57:14 GMT
Both are truly great games You joker ye.
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Post by goishen on May 1, 2017 14:13:43 GMT
To the person that said that No Man's Sky got a higher review...
I'd say that an indie developer that was working well beyond their scope of expertise is whole 'nother animal than BioWare.
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Post by linksocarina on May 1, 2017 15:37:59 GMT
To the person that said that No Man's Sky got a higher review... I'd say that an indie developer that was working well beyond their scope of expertise is whole 'nother animal than BioWare. It did get the AAA treatment though. That said, I agree.
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Post by sdzald on May 1, 2017 15:49:42 GMT
Hummm The plumber that came to my house not only did not clear the drain but he left a mess. I guess I should give him some slack, after all he is only human. The brand new car I just drove off the lot didn't even make it home before it broke down. I guess I should give the dealer some slack, after all they are only human. .... I could go on and on but you get the point, at least I hope you do. Speaking of Bioware/EA They seem to have gone dark. We haven't heard from them for at least two weeks and their Answer/Bug board answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/mass-effect-andromeda-bug-reports-en is now over 120 pages of reported bugs. I can understand giving them slack for poor facial animations, and audio glitches, but a HUGE number of bugs, some of them game stopping and what do we hear from them ... Yep nothing, and you want me to give them some slack????????? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by aglomeracja on May 1, 2017 15:56:40 GMT
The brand new car I just drove off the lot didn't even make it home before it broke down. I guess I should give the dealer some slack, after all they are only human. Hey, who knows, maybe this car is a great set up for future generation of cars? Or maybe it will work better with the next DLC?
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Post by R'Shara on May 1, 2017 16:03:02 GMT
This is the most amazing bug I've encountered yet.
I had to change squadmates and back to fix it. Zoning, entering/leaving Nomad, etc, didn't fix it.
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Post by zeypher on May 1, 2017 16:25:42 GMT
Nope haven't changed it, i rated the game a 6.5 and im still holding on to that. If the future patches address a few of the concerns then i will consider and raise it. But atm its still a 6.5 game for me at best.
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Post by griffith82 on May 1, 2017 17:25:19 GMT
Where did I ever say you experienced no bugs? In fact, I quoted you multiple times saying that MEA only had "a couple of bugs." I also posted a short list of actual BUGS, which you ignored in favor of being dismissive and condescending. But here's another list. Soft locks. Unable to move the character or bring up the interface without closing and reloading. Losing save files. Which, may be Bioware or EA. But since the TITLE of this thread is EA and Bioware, it is still a bug that I'm not giving EA slack about. FYI, I had syncing and cloud saving off at the time. Missions not complete-able due to the final or interim interaction never triggering. Cutscenes failing to trigger. Conversations failing to trigger. Falling through objects. Getting stuck inside/under/on top of objects. Deluxe edition weapons missing beyond level V. Weapons, armor, augments, mods not dropping between levels 61-71. Crashing on the galaxy map. Crashing on entering/exiting the Nexus. Enemies disappearing/getting stuck inside/under/behind objects and unkillable. How are these not bugs, and how is anyone experiencing even half of these overreacting when being pissed at the game? Well for one thing the OT had many of the same issues and most here do nothing but praise it and shit on this. That's why I keep saying the hypocrisy is strong here.
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Post by R'Shara on May 1, 2017 17:29:50 GMT
The first 3 games probably had as many glitches combined as MEA. Can't disagree there.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 1, 2017 18:13:12 GMT
None of the bugs I encounter are "game breaking", but they do require me to reload a previous save. I have to do that at least once every time I play. When the Archon is in the architect I have never had a smooth playthrough at that point. The enemies always fail to load at one of the hacking points. And calling somebody a drama queen for reporting bugs is just moronic and makes you look like a complete tool.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 1, 2017 19:18:30 GMT
No slack when you have a bioware reputation in the AAA industry along with a game that had 5 years and even a rare delay that other groups under EA will never the privilege to receive. I wasn't expecting the greatest game ever, but I was expecting a "bioware" "mass effect" game. Instead I got a game that has no replay value which is a first for me when it comes to their games, and the technical issues are astounding. Not the buggiest game ever, but it is clearly evident it wasn't ready, them having a day one patch and tweeting out future fixes before launch just strengthens the point. I also was not a fan of the game downgrading so many areas that the older games did better at, aren't you supposed to improve as you get better tech and learn from previous feedback? Did they not have the blue prints from previous games? It's even better when people reference "but this ME game had the same issue", again, do you expect future games to fix what the previous did wrong? I don't care if animations were an issue in previous games, I care about the now, mass effect andromeda. Will people reference previous game issues 20 years down the road as well? To me it means you accept mediocrity when you use past games as a way to validate the current ones issues.
I still liked the game, I had fun, and I've no issue with those who do like it, or even if they think it's their favorite. It still underachieved what I expected out of a bioware mass effect game nonetheless, and as I said, It's the first one I can't even replay as I don't see the value in doing so.
If people aren't cutting other devs slack for poor products, bioware doesn't deserve to be excluded.
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