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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 9:26:49 GMT
I don't know if there is a thread like this but I'm still making the poll. The question is obvious and for me Sloane holds the throne because she is a complete badass. That's my core reason Having Reyes lead is like taking down Aria and making Nyreen rule Omega.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 1, 2017 10:16:20 GMT
Sloane Kelly is an Aria T'loak wannabe with none of the style, grace or charisma of a true mass effect anti hero and Reyes is a dirty back stabbing rat, with sadistic narcissist tattooed on his inner souls left shoulder.
So its hard to hate Reyes but I just can't trust the guy. I'd rather be stabbed from the front.
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Post by aluminiumlizard on May 1, 2017 10:57:31 GMT
Having read 'Nexus Uprising,' Sloane does seem like she has her heart in the right place - sometimes. Reyes, from what we see, is a self-serving liar who may or may not have good intentions.
That said, in the immortal words of Capt. Jack Sparrow: "...A dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly it's the honest ones you have to watch out for, you never can predict if they're going to do something incredibly stupid." (eg. ditching your job to join up with the mutineers)
So Reyes it was.
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Post by tehprincessj on May 1, 2017 12:09:22 GMT
Reyes for me. Sloane's "I'd consider any attempt by the Initiative to settle Kadara an act of war" and "I'll raze your outpost to the ground" are things I just couldn't get over, regardless of how I feel about Reyes.
I love him, by the way.
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Post by President of Boom on May 1, 2017 12:11:28 GMT
Sloane. All the way. Every. Single. Time.
My Sara has always been passive aggressive toward Reyes. She chose Sloane and shot Reyes in the ass as he was slithering away.
I really don't get the fascination with Reyes that's going on around this place. Sloane is a hardened criminal and a horrible person, yes, but she's always been completely honest with us, completely open about what she does and why, how she runs things and how she feels about us and the Nexus. Every time she needed Sara for something unethical or self-serving she's been completely honest and has always mockingly given her the option to refuse. Reyes on the other hand, in addition to being a hardened criminal and a horrible person is also a smarmy, slimy, lying asshole who's always underhandedly used Sara every step of the way. If I had the option I would've shot him right after one of his lackeys in their hideout told me something like "You're not supposed to see this. The Charlatan ordered us to be nice and to not torture people in front of you." I'm not done with my first playthrough yet and I'm just hoping we get to see Reyes again so that my Sara can finish him.
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Post by wright1978 on May 1, 2017 12:59:54 GMT
Reyes of course.
Sloane is a scumbag who turned on the iniative. Just wish Ryder had of been allowed to be the one to execute her. After reading Nexus uprising i was even more aghast at how disgusting Sloanes's behaviour was.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 13:37:48 GMT
Depends on the PT for me. Both are cool characters, tbh.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 14:58:46 GMT
Both are downright horrible people.
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Post by crackferret on May 1, 2017 15:11:57 GMT
Reyes for me. Sloane's "I'd consider any attempt by the Initiative to settle Kadara an act of war" and "I'll raze your outpost to the ground" are things I just couldn't get over, regardless of how I feel about Reyes. I love him, by the way. When the sniper was sitting there, this line was all I could think of. Getting an outpost and the safety of its people was a top priority. Maybe Sloane would have changed her mind if my Ryder saved her, but at the time, my Ryder had to operate on what info *she* had, which is this specific comment. That being said, it's a hard choice because I think Sloane is a really interesting character.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 15:22:12 GMT
She is, but she does stand for a completely independent Kadara and maintaining her in power is not the best diplomatic move if we wish to get closer ties with Angara. Putting Reyes in charge not only gets a Pathfinder that Key to Port Kadara in his pants, it scores with the Resistance. Sloane is inconvenient, and the only reason not to remove her is being too clean-minded of a character.
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Post by VanVanDiane on May 1, 2017 17:04:21 GMT
Plus she extorts protection fees and deliberately tries to addict her subjects with oblivion, and calls you her dog when you agree to help Kaetus. Reyes lets you settle Kadara and protects the outpost for free. He gives the local doctor money to operate and runs a soup kitchen.... he's a sneaky lying bastard for sure, but he's MY sneaky lying bastard
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 1, 2017 17:08:29 GMT
Sloane Kelly for me, no question. She does all the good Reyes does, and doesn't do some of the bad he does.
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Post by raikas on May 1, 2017 17:36:57 GMT
Reading Nexus Uprising really soured me on Sloane. She's clearly someone who has way too narrow of an area of competence to be a leader of anything other than a small team. She definitely shouldn't be running the port.
That said, if I had to base it on purely on what's in the game I'd do a couple of playthroughs alternating between choosing one and the other, because while I liked Reyes more, the information you get on both of them in-game makes it seem like they're both equally questionable choices.
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Post by orchid on May 1, 2017 19:54:30 GMT
Apart from the reasoning regarding the Kadara realpolitik that @carefull brought up, I see potential for good role-playing opportunities with Reyes. A naïve Ryder in puppy love with Reyes will hopefully get a chance / be forced to face the unpleasant side of Reyes' businesses, which is something that I hope won't be resolved with a total happy sunshine redemption for Reyes. Reyes is already a nuanced character, so there's more get out of the romance or friendship.
There's also a possibility for renegade actions for Ryder, who may choose to turn a blind eye out of political concerns, sheer indifference, or downright desire for power that being Reyes' partner can bring him.
With Sloane I feel like my Ryder would have to suffer her in the same way that Shepard suffered Aria, although thankfully Sloane doesn't seem to be a dev pet like Aria was. Hopefully a DLC/sequel will give me a reason to side with her for a playthrough.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on May 1, 2017 22:20:12 GMT
Sloane it is. She runs a tight ship, to be sure, but trying to keep some sort of order on a planet full of lying assholes shooting at one another all the time, cannibals and who knows what else that generally opposes being ruled with any less extreme measures, is kind of a hard job. Plus, very few are horrible enough to deserve an end like that. Plus, say what you will, but Keema sitting all bossy on the throne is just a shitstorm waiting to happen. I wouldn't really be surprised if everyone with some power in Kadara port (including Reyes)+ the initiative outpost just woke up murdered one fine day, while rampaging Angara fanatics stomp on their kidneys.
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Post by FeralEwok on May 1, 2017 22:46:00 GMT
More importantly, who rules Barter Town??
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 1, 2017 22:51:59 GMT
In my book, Reyes is one bad day away from being as bad or worse than Sloane Kelly. She might be harsh and unforgiving, but you also know where you stand with her. Plus, given the kett, she's had to become hard just to survive. Meanwhile, Reyes operates from the shadows, and if he gets pushed, who knows what he or his people might do? Plus, really, what is the Collective but a slightly nicer looking/acting group of thugs, up to the same brand of shady shit that Sloane is, just offering a few bones to looking kinder in comparison. I'm sooner go with the devil I know and can predict, which is Sloane. Plus the whole sniper thing always feels like a cheat to me, given the pretense he draws her out with, not negotiating in good faith. Not that I don't understand it, but it does sour me on thinking that Reyes holds any moral high ground here.
That said, I also see a way for at least some of my Ryders to side against her as well. I like that this isn't a straight up 'here's an obvious choice painted as 'morally ambiguous' when it's actually pretty clean cut' kind of choice. I personally would side with Sloane, but I can justify my Ryders siding with Reyes too.
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Post by idkmyname on May 1, 2017 22:56:42 GMT
Reyes. Fuck Sloane.
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Post by Saboru on May 2, 2017 0:59:43 GMT
Ah the pick your preferred psycho nutcase gangster decision. Arrogant violent thug vs slimy backstabbing creep. Decisions, decisions.
It's all gonna go tits up whoever you choose, so it's a choice between being stabbed in the back or stabbed in the front when the inevitable occurs. I went with the front.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 2, 2017 1:20:38 GMT
I choose the one I can bang. I figure that should have some impact on his actions relating to Ryder.
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Post by Sairys on May 2, 2017 1:22:04 GMT
Reyes for me. Sloane's "I'd consider any attempt by the Initiative to settle Kadara an act of war" and "I'll raze your outpost to the ground" are things I just couldn't get over, regardless of how I feel about Reyes. I love him, by the way. This. Sloane may have had good intentions/reasons why she led the uprising, but what she did to the people once she got there was horrible. Making them pay protection money? Getting them hooked on drugs in the slums? Exiling her own "exiles" to the Badlands when they couldn't pay up? Regardless of her being a leader of those retaliating against Tann and the Initiative, once she got on that throne, she became a drug-lord and mob-boss. Reyes was the lesser of two evils, the intentions of the Collective were better than Sloane's people, and Reyes wholeheartedly was behind having an outpost where Sloane considered one being an act of war. If you do a romance run with Reyes, you find he's got much better intentions for the people of Kadara than Sloane, and he's not about being the glory on the throne.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 2, 2017 1:41:03 GMT
I choose the one I can bang. I figure that should have some impact on his actions relating to Ryder. You mean like when he betrays you, everyone can say he screwed you in more ways than one?
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 2, 2017 2:22:40 GMT
I choose the one I can bang. I figure that should have some impact on his actions relating to Ryder. You mean like when he betrays you, everyone can say he screwed you in more ways than one? You sure seem to know an awful lot about ME:A2, MR. WALTERS. DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 2, 2017 2:22:41 GMT
I choose the one I can bang. I figure that should have some impact on his actions relating to Ryder. You mean like when he betrays you, everyone can say he screwed you in more ways than one?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 2:34:04 GMT
Reyes. No question. Sloane deserves a slower death than what she got, maybe with her head on a pike.
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