Ryder too soft

100% buddy you will find most here agree with ya. We don't have a ruthless/fearless leader style to build on. Even an inexperienced badass in the works would of been sweet. Most of the time i find we are saying " yes mam/sir please be gentle..."

The renegade playstyle was what made me love the MET. I do enough groveling at my job..😂 let me be a ice cold prick!.😆



MEA is set in stone already and all we can do is hope MEA 2 or even the MEA DLC changes this and fast....

To add : Even our crew fart butterflies and all are waaay too emotional.... most weirdest and bizarre team yet. Even Drack is just a big old softie that's *too old for this*.

Where is my Jack?, Zaeed (spewing his son is here and not on the team!) Or Grunt etc etc.....

Not really, I actually related better to Ryder than I did to Shepard, I don't know if the lack of a stick up their ass was what made the difference or not though. The dialogue system is still too rigid too though, I was very hopeful that ditching the paragon/renegade system and the adoption of a tone-based dialogue would give us more freedom to shape our characters, but they turned out to be different flavoured rails, but rails after all.

Andromeda is for paragon lovers only.
Ryder reminds me un-hardended Alistair from DAO.

Yeah, I miss my bad-ass Shep... remember Fist ? It was such a nice day after I put a bullet in his head.

Paragon and Renegade was world apart, although just two, at least we got 2 way.
This new system? Good intention gone wrong, lacks in the execution department, emotional/logical/casual/profesional all the same. Sure, to shape our Shepard we had a ton of neutral things to say as well, but by the end, we got paragon/renegade to make it worthwhile. If I do not see a real difference between a profesional and an emotional Ryder bar the worthless codex psychprofile, why have it in the first place? Would vode paragon/renegade everytime if it meant variety and distinction. Ryder is all about "yes 'mam, your wish is my comannd", same shit in four different colors, but no matter what, it smells still like shit. Enough people out there who like it, will never understand it.

You found it hard to relate to him because he wasn't a ruthless professional? So are you saying you are a honorable, competent and professional hardass in real life? 

I personally found it easier to relate to Ryder, because I myself am inexperienced in combat and space exploration. I have experience in leading a team however, a small sales team to be exact, but the way Ryder is inexperienced as a leader and has at times a hard time getting his crew in line, made me remember how i was, when i started out.

Shepard was a great character and the OT is still my favorite game series, but i like Ryder as well. I really hope we get more games with Ryder and they show him develop as a soldier, explorer and a leader. I would like to see how someone young and inexperienced becomes a grizzled pathfinder like Alec Ryder was. I hope that is the direction they have in mind for Ryder.

I disagree massively. I played Scott as Casual/Emotional and am now playing Sara as Logical/Professional and the more I play and the further I get along in the story, the more I'm noticing subtle differences in their auto dialogue, as well as in their dialogue options. I seriously wonder if people are underestimating the new system.

Ok, I blame indoctrination. This isn't the first time I hear it, but can anyone give any examples on this?

I don't have a problem with giving an option to be an '' epic badass '' as long as it doesn't come between my option to play my male Ryder as an emotional, casual whippersnapper who cries when things don't go his way. You had your fun in MET, now it's time for me to have fun, or then we both have equal fun by BW letting us actually roleplay the game.

If you want Shepard, go play Shepard. It's Ryder time.

The only one that immediately comes to mind is that on my first playthrough, when I crash landed on Aya the Tempest was on fire, and Scott spent a lot of time apologising for that. When I crash landed on Aya the second time around, the Tempest was very much not on fire.

Also, the scenes on the turian arc went quite differently; Sara never asked about Avitus and Macen, and Avitus didn't mention anything. The conversation stayed strictly professional.

Beyond that, other people can probably fill you in better. But I've definitely noticed that Sara (well, my Sara) is a hell of a lot more sensible (to the point where she's kind of obnoxious in her professionalism) than her brother.

YOu know, we do not play ROLEPLAYING games to be ourselves.

You know "can not relate to Ryder" is maybe a poor choice of words, but I understood what OP meant, you, obviously, not?



Hm, wishfull thinking (you may tell me few examples via spoilers or private message)? Besides the fact Ryders grows up a bit by the end of the game to finaly fit in the too large shoes, there are no differences in the dialogue. The only thing that changes based on dialogue is Lexis codex psych profile about Ryder. My first playthough was emotional/casual, the second logical/profesional and no changes noticed. Also, frist playthrough casual towards Drack second profesional... he is still my best buddy.

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There are people out there we say, renegade is not possible in MEA, as we are no longer a SPectre with the license to kill (do whatever we like to do). So realy? Letting Drack drop Aroane is not renegade? SHooting Kalinda so Peebee saves the remtech is not renegade? Siding with the enemy of my enemy though we know the new ally is going to bite our ass pretty soon is what? And I do not need to be in full killmode and throw Addison out an airlock, telling her to shut the f.... up would be enough. What is she going to do hm? I have SAM and a lot of people who like and trust me, because I get shit done, not like her or Tann, noone would care if I would tell them to get lost.

Ryder lacks a backbone. Rookie Ryder is a doormat for characters to walk all over with no consequences