Ryder too soft

Well it's just such a limited and uninteresting ambition to have for a game.
Still if it floats your boat then more power to you.

Speak for yourself, I like soft!



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Ryder is given the role of pathfinder. He/she had no say. Upon learning they're the new pathfinder, he/she should realize what that role means. Being a leader. That doesn't mean letting everyone walk all over you. You have to show some toughness. Willing to put your foot down when its called for.

When the asari knocks over Ryder, what happens? Nothing. Why does it take over 20 seconds to push her off? How many people would have laid there doing nothing for that long? Once the asari is pushed away, she acts like its a joke and that it's ok to knock someone on the ground. Why couldn't Ryder confront her about doing that? Ryder just accepts it like its an everyday occurrence. It also shows to the squadmates that you lack any backbone to stand up for yourself and just let anyone get away with anything. Its the same when she uses the escape pod. She endangers Ryder and the other squadmate without giving any thought of what the consequences might be. I'm not asking for Ryder to add another hole in the asari's head, just have Ryder show that she/he is the boss and won't tolerate crap like that. Just doing that, I would have my Ryder kick her off the ship and squad. Me personally, I would leave her on the planet. My Shepard would throw her in the lava.

With regards to Liam. The fact he gave information to the angaran is enough for me to kick him off the ship and report him to Nexus security.

There are characters in the game that say **** you and whatever else to Ryder. Fine. Why can't Ryder reply with **** you too you piece of sh*t?

It occurs to me:

What was renegade supposed to be in the OT? Logical applications of gutsyness and putting the mission above common morality. Doing what must be done to succeed?

What did we get? Punching reporters and unnecessarily shoving mercs out windows.

Ryder.. Thorough logical and professionalism...can do what Renegade was supposed to be. Granted they can do plenty of actions are purely ruthless, but they weren't overly over the top.muhaha.

the speech from M in Casino Royale seems to qualify. 'Any thug can kill...' especially given the AIs mission objectives and Tann in particular murdering people might not go very far.

I think we're forgetting SAM.  Since he's integrated throughout a Pathfinder's central nervous and endocrine systems, SAM might be able to regulate Ryder's emotional and cognitive reactions to things that would normally freak out an inexperienced 22-year-old and cause PTSD.

Although, he does seem to chime in like Jiminy Cricket a bit. Like are you really asking if I'm returning the model ship? This is a Pathfinder tax, fool. 

he's a politician he doesn't strike me as being murderous.

 Out of curiosity, is this a critique that there should have been broader dialogue options (which I agree with), and a freer hand in crafting your own character, or that a softer character should not even be an option? Would that apply as well to DA2 sarctastic Hawke, who kills 500 people daily while still joking all the time, as well as any quip making action film characters? Genuinely curious.

Probably true, but if you want to be diplomatic, humble, spare as many opponents as possible and urge intergalatic cooperation it doesn't really work out so well. 

I like Ryder just fine, thanks. And what I understand is that cRPGs necessarily restrict the possible options available for the character, and voiced, cinematic cRPGs are even more restricted. I also understand that people whose preferred actions are supported by a game are prolly gonna be a lot happier with it than those whose are not.


Your neighbor's kid killed hundreds, created an alliance with an alien race, used alien technology to terraform worlds, solved multiple factional disputes, defeated a cluster-wide alien threat, found some missing arks, established multiple outposts on different worlds, and found a nice place for her species to call home? Color me impressed.


SSDD. I don't think I've ever played a game that didn't require me to tolerate characters I don't like. Kinda like life.

Jack was fine, the problem was being forced to work for the space KKK, which my Shepard would have never touched for something other than to nuke them into oblivion.