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Post by colfoley on May 3, 2017 18:58:50 GMT
Meh i give them a slight pass. Shepard was the ranking officer on the scene who was observing the situation and knew what was going on. Sure Hacket could have come through the relay and assessed but then you often aren't afforded that luxury in combat.
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 18:59:35 GMT
I like the way you think.  When Bioware remakes the trilogy, they'll put that in as an option. I know I would take it. OMG! I need to stop giving you ideas!  |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:00:18 GMT
Meh i give them a slight pass. Shepard was the ranking officer on the scene who was observing the situation and knew what was going on. Sure Hacket could have come through the relay and assessed but then you often aren't afforded that luxury in combat. Fair enough |
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Post by themikefest on May 3, 2017 19:00:59 GMT
OMG! I need to stop giving you ideas! Ha. Click on the link in my signature to see what Shepard can do |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:02:12 GMT
How would Ryder even be able to accomplish that anyway lol. Just walk into Tann's office and blow his brains out? We'd then just have to fight the legions of security personnel led by Kandros afterward, and out [former] squad members won't be there to help us. It'll be like that time I killed a man in Vault 81, only this time I have no way out. nah. No one is suggesting that we kill him...only put him on a shuttle to Kadara. How that does not lead to Ryder having to still fight through countless security...i do not know. Wasn't "shoot him" suggested to be on the option wheel by ste100 or am I mistaken? Not that this idea makes any sense either. |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:02:55 GMT
Ha. Click on the link in my signature to see what Shepard can do I'm tooooo scared now!  |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2017 19:03:48 GMT
Ha. Click on the link in my signature to see what Shepard can do I'm tooooo scared now! You will regret it and be free of regret at the same time. |
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Post by themikefest on May 3, 2017 19:04:11 GMT
Meh i give them a slight pass. Shepard was the ranking officer on the scene who was observing the situation and knew what was going on. Sure Hacket could have come through the relay and assessed but then you often aren't afforded that luxury in combat. The problem is that Shepard has no idea how large a force is attacking. Sure Shepard can say this, that, and the other thing, but I would let Hackett overrule that decision if he deems the ship worthy of saving or letting it be destroyed |
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Post by colfoley on May 3, 2017 19:04:51 GMT
nah. No one is suggesting that we kill him...only put him on a shuttle to Kadara. How that does not lead to Ryder having to still fight through countless security...i do not know. Wasn't "shoot him" suggested to be on the option wheel by ste100 or am I mistaken? Not that this idea makes any sense either. I'm not sure. I think it was but when i pointed out the impossibility of killing him it was 'actually all i want to do is exile him' |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:08:24 GMT
Wasn't "shoot him" suggested to be on the option wheel by ste100 or am I mistaken? Not that this idea makes any sense either. I'm not sure. I think it was but when i pointed out the impossibility of killing him it was 'actually all i want to do is exile him' That is what we call in the industry "backpedalling". |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2017 19:09:14 GMT
Being able to exile someone important would be an interesting decision, provided the story backs it up. Booting Spender off the station has adequate backing, for instance. But not someone like Tann, who may not have been particularly understanding of the plight of others, especially the krogan, but has no direct involvement in anything worth booting him out for, at least nothing concrete.
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:11:48 GMT
Being able to exile someone important would be an interesting decision, provided the story backs it up. Booting Spender off the station has adequate backing, for instance. But not someone like Tann, who may not have been particularly understanding of the plight of others, especially the krogan, but has no direct involvement in anything worth booting him out for, at least nothing concrete. What they are asking for is that Ryder instigate a Coup d'etat. I always want to ask how they forsee this scenario playing out. Ryder as Nexus space Stalin? |
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Post by correctamundo on May 3, 2017 19:13:06 GMT
How would Ryder even be able to accomplish that anyway lol. Just walk into Tann's office and blow his brains out? We'd then just have to fight the legions of security personnel led by Kandros afterward, and out [former] squad members won't be there to help us. It'll be like that time I killed a man in Vault 81, only this time I have no way out. There is no guns policy on the nexus for anyone not with security. Ryder could maybe smuggle a gun up to Tanns office but the fight out will be without armour. I guess citadel style.  |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2017 19:14:13 GMT
How would Ryder even be able to accomplish that anyway lol. Just walk into Tann's office and blow his brains out? We'd then just have to fight the legions of security personnel led by Kandros afterward, and out [former] squad members won't be there to help us. It'll be like that time I killed a man in Vault 81, only this time I have no way out. There is no guns policy on the nexus for anyone not with security. Ryder could maybe smuggle a gun up to Tanns office but the fight out will be without armour. I guess citadel style. Pffft who needs a gun? My omnitool spits deadly nanites, fire and lethal bursts of electricity. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2017 19:15:36 GMT
Being able to exile someone important would be an interesting decision, provided the story backs it up. Booting Spender off the station has adequate backing, for instance. But not someone like Tann, who may not have been particularly understanding of the plight of others, especially the krogan, but has no direct involvement in anything worth booting him out for, at least nothing concrete. What they are asking for is that Ryder instigate a Coup d'etat. I always want to ask how they forsee this scenario playing out. Ryder as Nexus space Stalin? Ryder as Mad Prophet. Ryder: Tann is a hand of the Kett, here to commit the Initiative to ruin! NPC: You're crazy! Ryder: Begone! |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:18:53 GMT
What they are asking for is that Ryder instigate a Coup d'etat. I always want to ask how they forsee this scenario playing out. Ryder as Nexus space Stalin? Ryder as Mad Prophet. Ryder: Tann is a hand of the Kett, here to commit the Initiative to ruin! NPC: You're crazy! Ryder: Begone! Actulally what they want is for Loghain to be the protaganist of MEA. |
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Post by dm04 on May 3, 2017 19:26:15 GMT
I do not need a badass either, unfortunately Ryder is the CO of a ship, the commander of a crew, the pathfinder everyone relies on. I don't remember them ever using that language (CO, commander) in the game - you're carrying that over from the trilogy. The Ai is a civilian organization. The game isn't clear about reporting structure, but the only people who might be direct reports to Ryder are Cora and Liam. The services of the rest of the crew are either Nexus related (provided by Tann) or volunteers. [...] Not sure if trolling or serious. If serious, you might want to check out what the GENERAL term CO mean. Maybe I have missed something, but Ryder is GIVEN the tempest, have the largest room and calls the shots. To me this sounds like a captain aka commanding officer aka co. And you do not have to be military for a basic ship structure... btw Suvi is science OFFICER... hell what the f.... she is not military! Tempest is not military! Why do they call her officer?!?!?!? |
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Post by kumazan on May 3, 2017 19:29:10 GMT
I don't remember them ever using that language (CO, commander) in the game - you're carrying that over from the trilogy. The Ai is a civilian organization. The game isn't clear about reporting structure, but the only people who might be direct reports to Ryder are Cora and Liam. The services of the rest of the crew are either Nexus related (provided by Tann) or volunteers. [...] Not sure if trolling or serious. If serious, you might want to check out what the GENERAL term CO mean. Maybe I have missed something, but Ryder is GIVEN the tempest, have the largest room and calls the shots. To me this sounds like a captain aka commanding officer aka co. And you do not have to be military for a basic ship structure... btw Suvi is science OFFICER... hell what the f.... she is not military! Tempest is not military! Why do they call her officer?!?!?!? The word officer is not a military exclusive. |
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Post by dm04 on May 3, 2017 19:29:18 GMT
Me neither, fortunately (or unfortunately) I know what it takes to be one. Ryder is a believable good character, however an unbelievable leader, and unfortunately he is one. I gues, to me, this boils down to be an immersion breaking point. We'll have to agree to disagree. Ok, I just hope you will never have to deal with a serious situation and kids are going to be your biggest wories. If s... starts to boil, hope you will nerver get a Ryder as leader  . |
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:31:24 GMT
I don't remember them ever using that language (CO, commander) in the game - you're carrying that over from the trilogy. The Ai is a civilian organization. The game isn't clear about reporting structure, but the only people who might be direct reports to Ryder are Cora and Liam. The services of the rest of the crew are either Nexus related (provided by Tann) or volunteers. [...] Not sure if trolling or serious. If serious, you might want to check out what the GENERAL term CO mean. Maybe I have missed something, but Ryder is GIVEN the tempest, have the largest room and calls the shots. To me this sounds like a captain aka commanding officer aka co. And you do not have to be military for a basic ship structure... btw Suvi is science OFFICER... hell what the f.... she is not military! Tempest is not military! Why do they call her officer?!?!?!? Neither is the captain of a fishing trawl, but he still is the authority on the ship. There are officers in corperations as well. If the Initiative has no ties to the Alliance (which, for all we could know no longer even exists) pray tell what military organization are you speaking of? The puritan settlers of north America brought guns with them, and they were not a band of soldiers, so simply saying that people are armed does not make it military. |
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Post by dm04 on May 3, 2017 19:33:10 GMT
Not sure if trolling or serious. If serious, you might want to check out what the GENERAL term CO mean. Maybe I have missed something, but Ryder is GIVEN the tempest, have the largest room and calls the shots. To me this sounds like a captain aka commanding officer aka co. And you do not have to be military for a basic ship structure... btw Suvi is science OFFICER... hell what the f.... she is not military! Tempest is not military! Why do they call her officer?!?!?!? The word officer is not a military exclusive. Yah that was sarcasm, I know that. |
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Post by mofojokers on May 3, 2017 19:51:06 GMT
I took the left path only to end up right so i decided to turn around and go back to the start. This time i took right and stayed on the right path.
I continued further until i came to a circle with 4 paths ahead. As i slowly walked around the circle thinking i decided to flip my red and blue coin. If it landed on blue as i went past each path then i would take it.
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This is about as fun as most choices are in MEA....
I will take my blue and red coin any day thank you good sir!..
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 19:54:28 GMT
I took the left path only to end up right so i decided to turn around and go back to the start. This time i took right and stayed on the right path. I continued further until i came to a circle with 4 paths ahead. As i slowly walked around the circle thinking i decided to flip my red and blue coin. If it landed on blue as i went past each path then i would take it. *flip* Red *flip* Red *flip* Blue Third path chosen and before i knew it i was at the very start of the maze again!. So i gave up and left with my red and blue coin with a smile on my face. Knowing that the only true answer was to walk away before boredom kicked in. This is about as fun as most choices are in MEA.... I will take my blue and red coin any day thank you good sir!.. I think, good sir, you chose the wrong avatar.  |
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Post by colfoley on May 3, 2017 19:55:21 GMT
The word officer is not a military exclusive. Yah that was sarcasm, I know that. wait are you saying your statement was sarcasm about the military officer thing or saying the post you quote is sarcasm. Because there are civilian officers. And Suvi is not given a military rank like lieutenant. Just an innocuous 'Science Officer' |
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Post by mofojokers on May 3, 2017 19:55:39 GMT
I took the left path only to end up right so i decided to turn around and go back to the start. This time i took right and stayed on the right path. I continued further until i came to a circle with 4 paths ahead. As i slowly walked around the circle thinking i decided to flip my red and blue coin. If it landed on blue as i went past each path then i would take it. *flip* Red *flip* Red *flip* Blue Third path chosen and before i knew it i was at the very start of the maze again!. So i gave up and left with my red and blue coin with a smile on my face. Knowing that the only true answer was to walk away before boredom kicked in. This is about as fun as most choices are in MEA.... I will take my blue and red coin any day thank you good sir!.. I think, good sir, you chose the wrong avatar. O Snap!!!!! Both are agents of chaos though so i am still in the correct area.😆 |
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