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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 2:03:46 GMT
not complaining. using him as a point. it's his actions that's the issue not that he's there. Would you say the same for Wrex?
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 2:10:03 GMT
not complaining. using him as a point. it's his actions that's the issue not that he's there. Would you say the same for Wrex? There was never a time during ME1 were I cried more then the moment i shot that Krogan.....Not even the "I remember me" quest the Mindoir survivor Shepard goes through after going on about how much stronger they are now to realize they still deep dog a scared little kid still having bad dreams about it. Regardless, point stands. Me always have a limit in roleplaying due to story. Heck, you can't even kill Wrex if Liara is not part of the crew yet.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 2:14:01 GMT
An now you see my point. ME always had a limit of role playing based on story. Why is it going to be different now? Point nothing. The player has the option not to recruit Zaeed whereas Ryder doesn't have that option for the asari
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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 2:14:31 GMT
Regardless, point stands. Your point doesn't stand. It would if you apply it to Wrex as well Are you sure about that? How much do you want to bet he can be killed without T'soni on Virmire? I've done it. I recruited both Wrex and Garrus. That's how.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 2:16:39 GMT
Regardless, point stands. Your point doesn't stand. It would if you apply it to Wrex as well Are you sure about that? How much do you want to bet he can be killed without T'soni on Virmire? I've done it. I recruited both Wrex and Garrus. That's how. From all I've heard, you sir have some weird playthroughs.
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 2:19:15 GMT
Regardless, point stands. Your point doesn't stand. It would if you apply it to Wrex as well Are you sure about that? How much do you want to bet he can be killed without T'soni on Virmire? I've done it. I recruited both Wrex and Garrus. That's how. 1. Yes it does being that you can't just do anything in there's games. Even you pointed that out. 2. I am 10000% sure.
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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 2:33:44 GMT
Ok. Wrex will always stand down if Garrus and T'soni are not recruited. If one of them or both are recruited, Wrex can be killed by Shepard or Ashley depending on the dialogue chosen. T'soni does not have to be recruited for Wrex to be killed
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 2:37:58 GMT
Ok. Wrex will always stand down if Garrus and T'soni are not recruited. If one of them or both are recruited, Wrex can be killed by Shepard or Ashley depending on the dialogue chosen. T'soni does not have to be recruited for Wrex to be killed Dude no. This only happens if you don't get liara yet. I did this myself. Why act like an expert about this when you ask me to prove it?
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Post by KaiserShep on May 4, 2017 2:43:42 GMT
Wut. I never knew that about the Wrex scene. Hot damn always something new.
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 2:47:28 GMT
then I must of remembered it wrong then.
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 2:48:46 GMT
Wut. I never knew that about the Wrex scene. Hot damn always something new. ME1 is one of those games where you can find something new every play through. Hell all the me games are like that.
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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 2:53:22 GMT
Dude no. This only happens if you don't get liara yet. I did this myself. dude. Yes. Wrex will always stand down if Garrus and Liara are not recruited. If one or the other is recruited, Wrex can be shot. Liara does not have to be recruited for him to be shot. I've done that scene many times Simple. You've been wrong about things. I mentioned a scene on Thessia. You were wrong in believing I was wrong in what I was talking about until you saw a video showing that you were wrong. You were wrong to believe I was talking about Noveria when I mentioned a mission from ME3. You were wrong about saying that dialogue was stated during the peepee asari's loyalty mission when it wasn't. You made assumptions about people in the thread about the cold climate and was wrong in your assumptions. So yes. I like you to prove what you say is correct? Except in this case you're wrong again.
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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 3:03:51 GMT
From all I've heard, you sir have some weird playthroughs. Some is an understatement. Though I wouldn't call them weird. I will give Bioware high marks for what a player can do in the trilogy. The replay value is excellent. Its amazing how little a player can do in ME3 and still get the breath scene. Its also amazing the amount of stuff that can be done in ME3 and still get a low ems(below 1750) destroy ending. So many ways to play the games.
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Post by cypherj on May 4, 2017 3:06:18 GMT
But the game almost makes it seem like you're just Alec's kid along for the ride to Andromeda and circumstance just thrust you into the Pathfinder role, and you had never seen any kind of action. I played Sara, and she was attached to a scientific research team, had seen combat on her trips, and generally seen things. There would have been some sort of chain of command on these trips, she went through Pathfinder team training, where they would have been some structure. The whole laid back, I can't take things seriously attitude just didn't fit given what I knew about her. A couple of things: I think we have different impressions of what Pathfinder team training would involve. Just because an N7 started the program does not mean it was highly militaristic in nature. I used to work with archeologists, and I have a friend who was a biologist with the Army Corps of Engineers - she described some of the surveys she was involved in like walking up a river bank for miles to look for a specific type of plant. We know that Sara was a recon specialist, and made some comments about the flora, fauna, kett activities and remnant structures they came across on Habitat 7. The point is that a lot of what Pathfinders do is more academic than militaristic. Just because they are combat capable does not mean the team operates in any sort of militaristic fashion 24x7. Also, what you consider to be a "laid back, I can't take things seriously" attitude is something I might call "staying calm, focused and on goal, adapting to the situation, not shifting into panic mode." I felt that Sara handled herself very well on Habitat 7, especially if you explore the area. Yeah, that's sort of the risk you take when you choose the Casual option. It's likely to be snark. The emotional options aren't bad IME. They usually involve connecting to someone on an emotional level - sometimes to offer comfort or reassurance. Maybe a different set of tones would have been better received? When I say not taking things seriously I mean moments like you're about to make first contact with a race that forced you to land under threat of force, and a paraphrase of stay calm or lighten up I can't remember turns into, Hey guys if this goes badly and I end dying a horrible death, please no one film it and upload it. That's not focusing on the goal, or not being panicked, it's just I'm gonna crack a joke. I shouldn't feel like I'm taking some sort of risk picking a dialogue option. Sarcastic should have been its own choice, and the player could answer that way if they wanted, and play that type of character if they wanted. But too many times it came down to be professional and formal or crack a joke and be goofy, with nothing in between, and the paraphrase was nothing near what Ryder ended up saying. If casual meant sarcastic/joking/goofy, bottom left and bottom right should hardly ever be the only two options. But they were a lot.
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 3:09:37 GMT
Dude no. This only happens if you don't get liara yet. I did this myself. dude. Yes. Wrex will always stand down if Garrus and Liara are not recruited. If one or the other is recruited, Wrex can be shot. Liara does not have to be recruited for him to be shot. I've done that scene many times Simple. You've been wrong about things. I mentioned a scene on Thessia. You were wrong in believing I was wrong in what I was talking about until you saw a video showing that you were wrong. You were wrong to believe I was talking about Noveria when I mentioned a mission from ME3. Y ou were wrong about saying that dialogue was stated during the peepee asari's loyalty mission when it wasn't. You made assumptions about people in the thread about the cold climate and was wrong in your assumptions. So yes. I like you to prove what you say is correct? Except in this case you're wrong again. 1.I was wrong about when it happen on thessia not that it happen. the point is that it happened. Heck, I was the one that put the video in the topic 2.I was not wrong about the peebee quest line one I linked to it. Even gave the time stamp when Sam said it. 3.I was wrong about the mission you were taking about but I was still right about the fact it was not under 0 degress which was the point of that argument. 4.i just said it was done before in ME1. and not the topic to argue about this.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 3:27:00 GMT
Just to point out how soft ryder is... PeeBee doesn't get her ass kicked off the ship after her loyalty mission when what she did was definitely going to far. Also, Liam crossed all sorts of lines and you keep him on board when he crossed the line trying to bend rules and get things done his way. If his pal were to have given up the information he gave? Yeah, he should be removed from the crew, without remorse. Both of them should be. That is how much of a pussy ryder is that they don't respond to those kinds of behaviors with more than a firm talking to.
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Post by dreman999 on May 4, 2017 3:28:14 GMT
Just to point out how soft ryder is... PeeBee doesn't get her ass kicked off the ship after her loyalty mission when what she did was definitely going to far. Also, Liam crossed all sorts of lines and you keep him on board when he crossed the line trying to bend rules and get things done his way. If his pal were to have given up the information he gave? Yeah, he should be removed from the crew, without remorse. Both of them should be. That is how much of a pussy ryder is that they don't respond to those kinds of behaviors with more than a firm talking to. and we are back to square zero for the entire argument.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 3:29:11 GMT
Just to point out how soft ryder is... PeeBee doesn't get her ass kicked off the ship after her loyalty mission when what she did was definitely going to far. Also, Liam crossed all sorts of lines and you keep him on board when he crossed the line trying to bend rules and get things done his way. If his pal were to have given up the information he gave? Yeah, he should be removed from the crew, without remorse. Both of them should be. That is how much of a pussy ryder is that they don't respond to those kinds of behaviors with more than a firm talking to.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 3:33:48 GMT
Just to point out how soft ryder is... PeeBee doesn't get her ass kicked off the ship after her loyalty mission when what she did was definitely going to far. Also, Liam crossed all sorts of lines and you keep him on board when he crossed the line trying to bend rules and get things done his way. If his pal were to have given up the information he gave? Yeah, he should be removed from the crew, without remorse. Both of them should be. That is how much of a pussy ryder is that they don't respond to those kinds of behaviors with more than a firm talking to. and we are back to square zero for the entire argument. I'm sorry. Which argument is that? I have a life and don't have time to read an 18 page thread. But I just played both these loyalty missions and it really highlighted the point about ryder being a pussy. Now I'm off to bed and onto life again. Don't bother replying.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 3:44:17 GMT
and we are back to square zero for the entire argument. I'm sorry. Which argument is that? I have a life and don't have time to read an 18 page thread. But I just played both these loyalty missions and it really highlighted the point about ryder being a pussy. Now I'm off to bed and onto life again. Don't bother replying.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 4, 2017 3:51:31 GMT
*sigh* Folks, Autumn is answering the OP and does not necessarily have to participate in the debate bouncing among a few posters in the last few pages.
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