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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 3:59:43 GMT

May 4, 2017 3:27:00 GMT @illianaunknown said:

Just to point out how soft ryder is... PeeBee doesn't get her ass kicked off the ship after her loyalty mission when what she did was definitely going to far. Also, Liam crossed all sorts of lines and you keep him on board when he crossed the line trying to bend rules and get things done his way. If his pal were to have given up the information he gave? Yeah, he should be removed from the crew, without remorse. Both of them should be. That is how much of a pussy ryder is that they don't respond to those kinds of behaviors with more than a firm talking to.

wow a whole two examples. Someone stop the presses.

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May 4, 2017 3:51:31 GMT Obsidian Gryphon said:

*sigh* Folks, Autumn is answering the OP and does not necessarily have to participate in the debate bouncing among a few posters in the last few pages.

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May 4, 2017 2:43:42 GMT KaiserShep said:

Wut. I never knew that about the Wrex scene. Hot damn always something new.

Not having Garrus or Liara at Virmire just sounds weird to me, as if Shepard is commanding a ghost ship. You'll only have three sqaudmates after this mission. :huh:

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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 4:05:00 GMT

May 4, 2017 3:33:48 GMT @illianaunknown said:

May 4, 2017 3:28:14 GMT dreman999 said:

and we are back to square zero for the entire argument.

I'm sorry. Which argument is that? I have a life and don't have time to read an 18 page thread. But I just played both these loyalty missions and it really highlighted the point about ryder being a pussy. Now I'm off to bed and onto life again. Don't bother replying.

I'll step in and reply then, they were both fun and I enjoyed them.

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Post by themikefest on May 4, 2017 4:06:42 GMT

May 4, 2017 4:02:09 GMT erikson said:

Not having Garrus or Liara at Virmire just sounds weird to me, as if Shepard is commanding a ghost ship. You'll only have three sqaudmates after this mission. :huh:

I've completed ME1 a couple of times with only tali, liara and a/k. :devil:

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May 4, 2017 4:06:42 GMT themikefest said:

May 4, 2017 4:02:09 GMT erikson said:

Not having Garrus or Liara at Virmire just sounds weird to me, as if Shepard is commanding a ghost ship. You'll only have three sqaudmates after this mission. :huh:

I've completed ME1 a couple of times with only tali, liara and a/k. :devil:

Again...weird. :wacko:

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May 4, 2017 2:16:39 GMT erikson said:

May 4, 2017 2:14:31 GMT themikefest said:

Your point doesn't stand. It would if you apply it to Wrex as well
Are you sure about that? How much do you want to bet he can be killed without T'soni on Virmire? I've done it. I recruited both Wrex and Garrus. That's how.

From all I've heard, you sir have some weird playthroughs. :wacko:

It's why, though he and I have different play styles, he's a definite go to person if you want to know more about the OT. I'm guessing that may happen with MEA as well.

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Post by dmc1001 on May 4, 2017 4:34:17 GMT

May 4, 2017 1:17:46 GMT erikson said:

May 4, 2017 1:14:27 GMT themikefest said:

Why can't I throw Jack off my ship for getting Lawson's face? Why can't I throw the quarian off my ship for going after the geth? Why can't I throw the asari off my ship for getting in Javik's face? Why can't I throw the hologram turned platform off my ship? Why can't I send the asari to Hackett and have Miranda back in her office? Why can't I have those options to fit my roleplaying?

That is kind of the argument from most of the people in this thread. XD

I think that's sort of the point. People are acting like MEA is somehow behaving differently than the OT when it's not. By all accounts, if Ryder is a pussy for not throwing people off the Tempest than the same is true of Shepard with the Normandy.

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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 4, 2017 4:38:09 GMT

May 4, 2017 4:02:01 GMT smilesja said:

May 4, 2017 3:51:31 GMT Obsidian Gryphon said:

*sigh* Folks, Autumn is answering the OP and does not necessarily have to participate in the debate bouncing among a few posters in the last few pages.

Well if you are going to post expect it to get challenged

If the challenges are pertinent to her post; her first post which is addressing the OP / topic. I did not see that in the replies thrown at her.

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May 4, 2017 4:38:09 GMT Obsidian Gryphon said:

May 4, 2017 4:02:01 GMT smilesja said:

Well if you are going to post expect it to get challenged

If the challenges are pertinent to her post; her first post which is addressed to the OP / topic. I did not see that in the replies thrown at her.

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May 4, 2017 4:39:44 GMT KaiserShep said:

May 4, 2017 4:38:09 GMT Obsidian Gryphon said:

If the challenges are pertinent to her post; her first post which is addressed to the OP / topic. I did not see that in the replies thrown at her.

This is all I will say on this. Reflect / contemplate. End of line.

Anytime I see "End of line" I just imagine someone babbling gibberish in a bathtub.

Thank you. I like to think myself as gibbering like an ape all the time. I am an ape after all. Of no intelligence and no manners. Please do throw more my way. I'd like to dress myself in your offerings, be they dirty, contemptuous, ugly, scornful, hateful.

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Post by areskeith on May 4, 2017 4:53:06 GMT

May 3, 2017 1:48:42 GMT colfoley said:

And i wanted to give one of my Shepards a sense of humor. I couldn't do it.

That's why I love Ryder more than Shepard

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May 4, 2017 4:53:06 GMT areskeith said:

May 3, 2017 1:48:42 GMT colfoley said:

And i wanted to give one of my Shepards a sense of humor. I couldn't do it.

That's why I love Ryder more than Shepard

I like them both equally but probably because I'm not looking for them to act the same way.

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May 4, 2017 4:54:21 GMT dmc1001 said:

May 4, 2017 4:53:06 GMT areskeith said:

That's why I love Ryder more than Shepard

I like them both equally but probably because I'm not looking for them to act the same way.

Ryder probably edges Shepard slightly because she is more relatable to me, and I have more fun actually "roleplaying" her. But Shep is great to.

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May 4, 2017 4:57:23 GMT erikson said:

May 4, 2017 4:54:21 GMT dmc1001 said:

I like them both equally but probably because I'm not looking for them to act the same way.

Ryder probably edges Shepard slightly because she is more relatable to me, and I have more fun actually "roleplaying" her. But Shep is great to.

Mine has a lot to do with a romance in the OT that hasn't been matched in MEA. Mind you, it took three games to happen so this isn't a knock against MEA, it's just that I haven't got what I want just yet.

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May 4, 2017 4:34:17 GMT dmc1001 said:

I think that's sort of the point. People are acting like MEA is somehow behaving differently than the OT when it's not. By all accounts, if Ryder is a for not throwing people off the Tempest than the same is true of Shepard with the Normandy.

Shepard does get the option to not recruit characters in all 3 games. Why can't Ryder have that option in this game? Since Ryder doesn't have the option not to recruit, why not let her/him have the option to kick them off the squad?

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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 5:03:48 GMT

May 4, 2017 5:02:03 GMT dmc1001 said:

May 4, 2017 4:57:23 GMT erikson said:

Ryder probably edges Shepard slightly because she is more relatable to me, and I have more fun actually "roleplaying" her. But Shep is great to.

Mine has a lot to do with a romance in the OT that hasn't been matched in MEA. Mind you, it took three games to happen so this isn't a knock against MEA, it's just that I haven't got what I want just yet.

That is fair.

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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 5:05:37 GMT

May 4, 2017 5:03:08 GMT themikefest said:

May 4, 2017 4:34:17 GMT dmc1001 said:

I think that's sort of the point. People are acting like MEA is somehow behaving differently than the OT when it's not. By all accounts, if Ryder is a for not throwing people off the Tempest than the same is true of Shepard with the Normandy.

Shepard does get the option to not recruit characters in all 3 games. Why can't Ryder have that option in this game? Since Ryder doesn't have the option not to recruit, why not let her/him have the option to kick them off the squad?

It doesn't make that much difference and it's not a big deal.

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May 4, 2017 5:02:03 GMT dmc1001 said:

May 4, 2017 4:57:23 GMT erikson said:

Ryder probably edges Shepard slightly because she is more relatable to me, and I have more fun actually "roleplaying" her. But Shep is great to.

Mine has a lot to do with a romance in the OT that hasn't been matched in MEA. Mind you, it took three games to happen so this isn't a knock against MEA, it's just that I haven't got what I want just yet.

Honestly, the only romance in the OT that I actually liked was Liara's, but Liara had a significant advantage as the trilogy progressed. ME1's was pretty lame overall because of her wooden dialogue, but LotSB pretty much served it up on a silver platter with a good action adventure story.

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May 4, 2017 4:54:21 GMT dmc1001 said:

May 4, 2017 4:53:06 GMT areskeith said:

That's why I love Ryder more than Shepard

I like them both equally but probably because I'm not looking for them to act the same way.

Same for me really, but Ryder's sarcasm is just perfect :lol:

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May 4, 2017 5:09:13 GMT KaiserShep said:

May 4, 2017 5:02:03 GMT dmc1001 said:

Mine has a lot to do with a romance in the OT that hasn't been matched in MEA. Mind you, it took three games to happen so this isn't a knock against MEA, it's just that I haven't got what I want just yet.

Honestly, the only romance in the OT that I actually liked was Liara's, but Liara had a significant advantage as the trilogy progressed. ME1's was pretty lame overall because of her wooden dialogue, but LotSB pretty much served it up on a silver platter with a good action adventure story.

I have only ever romanced Liara in MT because I am interested in a committed relationship, and she is the only character that has good content in all three games. One thing I hate is that they hem and haw over the whole thing in 3 again. It's like "Jesus! We've been through this twice already, yes I love you! Let's move on with it." That always annoys me.

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May 4, 2017 4:54:21 GMT dmc1001 said:

May 4, 2017 4:53:06 GMT areskeith said:

That's why I love Ryder more than Shepard

I like them both equally but probably because I'm not looking for them to act the same way.

Yeah, at some point, you have to let go and let the narrator ease you into being the character. For Shepard, it took all, but 10 minutes. For Ryder, it took sometime to turn the corner. Ryder still needs more fleshing out, but for me, it's the overall storytelling and polish. Seriously, I'm disappointed. I'm not doing another full run after this. I'm going to finish this run as my canon run until the collector's edition comes out.

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May 4, 2017 5:12:49 GMT erikson said:

May 4, 2017 5:09:13 GMT KaiserShep said:

Honestly, the only romance in the OT that I actually liked was Liara's, but Liara had a significant advantage as the trilogy progressed. ME1's was pretty lame overall because of her wooden dialogue, but LotSB pretty much served it up on a silver platter with a good action adventure story.

I have only ever romanced Liara in MT because I am interested in a committed relationship, and she is the only character that has good content in all three games. One thing I hate is that they hem and haw over the whole thing in 3 again. It's like "Jesus! We've been through this twice already, yes I love! Let's move on with it." That always annoys me.

Lol yeah.

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May 4, 2017 5:05:37 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman said:

It doesn't make that much difference and it's not a big deal.

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