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Post by luzarius on May 4, 2017 5:31:24 GMT
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 5:37:46 GMT
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 4, 2017 7:25:45 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE !
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 7:36:20 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! Well they did that with Sara Ryder, I was very pleased with how she changed, and where she ended up at the end of the story....PLEASE IGNORE, BIOWARE!
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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 7:41:17 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! I hope not because that is what we got in Andromeda, imo of course.
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Post by suikoden on May 4, 2017 7:46:50 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! Well they did that with Sara Ryder, I was very pleased with how she changed, and where she ended up at the end of the story....PLEASE IGNORE, BIOWARE! How did Ryder change? To me she was a snarky pushover the whole way through...
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 8:14:26 GMT
Well they did that with Sara Ryder, I was very pleased with how she changed, and where she ended up at the end of the story....PLEASE IGNORE, BIOWARE! How did Ryder change? To me she was a snarky pushover the whole way through... I felt a decided change in her demeanor and her maturity in the role by the end of the game. As far as pushover, you know some people aren't about throwing their weight around and being a tough guy/gal in every situation, right?
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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 8:15:10 GMT
How did Ryder change? To me she was a snarky pushover the whole way through... I felt a decided change in her demeanor and her maturity in the role by the end of the game. As far as pushover, you know some people aren't about throwing their weight around and being a tough guy/gal in every situation, right? Hell the way other people began relating to Ryder also changed throughout the course of the game's events.
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Post by suikoden on May 4, 2017 8:19:51 GMT
I felt a decided change in her demeanor and her maturity in the role by the end of the game. As far as pushover, you know some people aren't about throwing their weight around and being a tough guy/gal in every situation, right? Hell the way other people began relating to Ryder also changed throughout the course of the game's events. I noticed how other people changed in how they spoke about her, but I didn't notice any change in Ryder - I think you might be influenced by other NPCs and roleplaying a change of sorts in your head regarding her development.
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Post by correctamundo on May 4, 2017 8:20:35 GMT
Riddle time! Who runs around trying to play the game but never amounts to nothing but a failure? The one who plays a snarky pushover and then complains at being a snarky pushover.
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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 8:24:23 GMT
Hell the way other people began relating to Ryder also changed throughout the course of the game's events. I noticed how other people changed in how they spoke about her, but I didn't notice any change in Ryder - I think you might be influenced by other NPCs and roleplaying a change of sorts in your head regarding her development. Well: That is one of the joys of playing an RPG, especially an RPG with a character arc, that you can invent your own spins and put your stamp on the growth of your character...and interpret the events of the story and certain quests as being part of their growth arc. But nevertheless this is greatly helped by the fact that Ryder does have a growth arc. As far as the other characters are concerned. Sure, people treat others based on their own viewpoints, IE treating a young uppity character without respect because they have not earned respect. But then, treating them differently when they have.
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Post by liquidsnake on May 4, 2017 12:21:19 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! Not very smart? Maybe your Ryder wasn't but my Scott was actively interested in science and expressed it to multiple people, including some Angarans on Voeld who were quite surprised to hear it. Why isn't he a charismatic or convincing Pathfinder either? My Ryder is. He's schmoozed with a lot of important people, gathered a lot of people that believe in his abilities, settled four worlds for colonies, brought the Krogan back in line with the AI - at least enough to work with them - hunted the Archon down, rescued all of the missing arks and retrieved the map to Meridian. That's even just a few things that popped in my head as I was typing. I... uh... think he's doing pretty well for himself, being young and previously inexperienced aside. He now has probably more experience in the field than nearly anyone else in the AI. Considering everyone in the AI was sitting on their butts for 14 months lamenting the fact that the golden worlds were a bust I think it's pretty accomplished the child of the original human pathfinder shows up and rights the sinking ship single handily. Now the AI has four Pathfinders again, four settlements to build off, a race of people that I forged an alliance with.. Those are some decent accomplishments.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 4, 2017 12:27:39 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! Not very smart? Maybe your Ryder wasn't but my Scott was actively interested in science and expressed it to multiple people, including some Angarans on Voeld who were quite surprised to hear it. Why isn't he a charismatic or convincing Pathfinder either? My Ryder is. He's schmoozed with a lot of important people, gathered a lot of people that believe in his abilities, settled four worlds for colonies, brought the Krogan back in line with the AI - at least enough to work with them - hunted the Archon down, rescued all of the missing arks and retrieved the map to Meridian. That's even just a few things that popped in my head as I was typing. I... uh... think he's doing pretty well for himself, being young and previously inexperienced aside. He now has probably more experience in the field than nearly anyone else in the AI. Considering everyone in the AI was sitting on their butts for 14 months lamenting the fact that the golden worlds were a bust I think it's pretty accomplished the child of the original human pathfinder shows up and rights the sinking ship single handily. Now the AI has four Pathfinders again, four settlements to build off, a race of people that I forged an alliance with.. Those are some decent accomplishments. I'm happy that you are happy with your Ryder.
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Post by timebean on May 4, 2017 13:38:43 GMT
Ryder this, Ryder that. There is no problem with Ryder, but with the people who wrote him. He's not limited because he's young, un-experienced or not very smart - he was created that way, to fit the story. The only thing Ryder needs right now, is a writer, who will develop him into charismatic and convincing Pathfinder, who can lead us into unknown. Same with the story. It's time for a fresh blood, some new ideas, something unexpected... I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING, BIOWARE ! Not very smart? Maybe your Ryder wasn't but my Scott was actively interested in science and expressed it to multiple people, including some Angarans on Voeld who were quite surprised to hear it. Why isn't he a charismatic or convincing Pathfinder either? My Ryder is. He's schmoozed with a lot of important people, gathered a lot of people that believe in his abilities, settled four worlds for colonies, brought the Krogan back in line with the AI - at least enough to work with them - hunted the Archon down, rescued all of the missing arks and retrieved the map to Meridian. That's even just a few things that popped in my head as I was typing. I... uh... think he's doing pretty well for himself, being young and previously inexperienced aside. He now has probably more experience in the field than nearly anyone else in the AI. Considering everyone in the AI was sitting on their butts for 14 months lamenting the fact that the golden worlds were a bust I think it's pretty accomplished the child of the original human pathfinder shows up and rights the sinking ship single handily. Now the AI has four Pathfinders again, four settlements to build off, a race of people that I forged an alliance with.. Those are some decent accomplishments.Agree with bolded! Granted, I found some of Ryder's dialogue a little juvenile here and there ("looting is wrong" - uggg), but I did appreciate that she was interested in science. I didn't realize the male Ryder also did this (I assumed he was more military because of his background). Anyway, I liked that is set her apart from Shepherd, who was all military and bravado (which was, admittedly, very fun to play). But in so many shooters, I play the grizzled veteran. I appreciated that Bioware at least tried something new, even if it was a bit lukewarm in parts. I think if they would have tried to make a new Shep 2.0 character type, folks would have been even more annoyed that they were not like the orignal Shep. However, i can understand why some folks feel it went a little too far in the opposite direction. My main grip is not the "softness" of the character as much as that their attitude/snark, which often feels like they are not taking anything seriously. It loses the emotional weight, for me, and kinda made me lose investment in the bigger story. Also...the above GIF wars were hilarious!!! I would never go up against Finally Faceman in a GIF-off!!
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 4, 2017 13:51:22 GMT
Not very smart? Maybe your Ryder wasn't but my Scott was actively interested in science and expressed it to multiple people, including some Angarans on Voeld who were quite surprised to hear it. Why isn't he a charismatic or convincing Pathfinder either? My Ryder is. He's schmoozed with a lot of important people, gathered a lot of people that believe in his abilities, settled four worlds for colonies, brought the Krogan back in line with the AI - at least enough to work with them - hunted the Archon down, rescued all of the missing arks and retrieved the map to Meridian. That's even just a few things that popped in my head as I was typing. I... uh... think he's doing pretty well for himself, being young and previously inexperienced aside. He now has probably more experience in the field than nearly anyone else in the AI. Considering everyone in the AI was sitting on their butts for 14 months lamenting the fact that the golden worlds were a bust I think it's pretty accomplished the child of the original human pathfinder shows up and rights the sinking ship single handily. Now the AI has four Pathfinders again, four settlements to build off, a race of people that I forged an alliance with.. Those are some decent accomplishments. Also...the above GIF wars were hilarious!!! I would never go up against Finally Faceman in a GIF-off!!
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Post by dmc1001 on May 4, 2017 14:22:05 GMT
Mine has a lot to do with a romance in the OT that hasn't been matched in MEA. Mind you, it took three games to happen so this isn't a knock against MEA, it's just that I haven't got what I want just yet. Honestly, the only romance in the OT that I actually liked was Liara's, but Liara had a significant advantage as the trilogy progressed. ME1's was pretty lame overall because of her wooden dialogue, but LotSB pretty much served it up on a silver platter with a good action adventure story. Mine was Kaidan. Which, with a recent mod, is available in ME1 (no weird quirks to it, either).
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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 4, 2017 14:30:09 GMT
Way too soft, not liking it at all. I play female Ryder and she is blah. Really. They really did maim the Mass Effect world for me.
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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 4, 2017 14:33:17 GMT
Except Shepard gave us the option to be a peace loving hippie (casual whipper snapper who cries bucket as you want) or Switzerland OR murder she wrote. Can't you see at all why people are disgruntled with Ryder? Sure, but are people annoyed that they can't roleplay an epic badass, or that Ryder isn't an epic badass by default with loads of muscle and a short haircut to really amp up the masculinity and EPICNESS. There's a difference. I personally thought male Ryder/Scott wasn't emotional and soft enough, or rather I wasn't given the option to be as big of a cry baby that I envisioned my male Ryder to be. Most of us want the characters we play to be not like we are in real life. I guess you're different. LOL, sorry had to say that. I do not like the idea of female Ryder not being a hard ass like I am in real life.
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