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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 4, 2017 14:51:50 GMT
Right? People should only play rpgs that only reflects the life they live in, and not play somthing that they could just muck about, relax and have fun. Who'd want to play stupid games like that? The horror. Well it's just such a limited and uninteresting ambition to have for a game. Still if it floats your boat then more power to you. I have power in my life and I can't stand whimpy characters, in any game. Shep is vastly better than Ryder, hands down and even when you always choose the professional options for Ryder it comes off completely unprofessional.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 15:11:09 GMT
*sigh* Folks, Autumn is answering the OP and does not necessarily have to participate in the debate bouncing among a few posters in the last few pages. Well if you are going to post expect it to get challenged It wasn't a challenge. It was a troll. Challenge requires someone to actually formulate full ideas and participate in the discussions. Someone being a punk with some one line smart ass comment does not equal challenge. It equals trolling.
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Post by dm04 on May 4, 2017 16:49:28 GMT
Well it's just such a limited and uninteresting ambition to have for a game. Still if it floats your boat then more power to you. I have power in my life and I can't stand whimpy characters, in any game. Shep is vastly better than Ryder, hands down and even when you always choose the professional options for Ryder it comes off completely unprofessional. Emotional is too often too whiney Logical is most of the time just smartass and not logic Casual is, for fRyder, usualy sarcasm And professional comes out, way too often, unprofessional And the problem with the audience is... Emotionaly instable people do not see the whiney stuff Stupid people do not see how smartass flawed logical decisions are When not understood, sarcasm is seen as casual And only "true" professionals can see how unprofessional most lines are Long story short, bad writing. What is the old saying? Ignorance is a bless?
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Post by mofojokers on May 4, 2017 16:52:35 GMT
21 pages so far and it's still interesting to read. I honestly wonder if any of the feedback on this unofficial forums is even seen by anyone from Bioware.
Definitely recommend this thread for a read.
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Post by dm04 on May 4, 2017 17:01:55 GMT
21 pages so far and it's still interesting to read. I honestly wonder if any of the feedback on this unofficial forums is even seen by anyone from Bioware. Definitely recommend this thread for a read. True, BW can definitely profit from what is said here, if they read. And if not, havent you said something about an upcoming open world scifi ip in the makings at Bethesda? ^^
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Post by KaiserShep on May 4, 2017 17:02:03 GMT
I have power in my life and I can't stand whimpy characters, in any game. Shep is vastly better than Ryder, hands down and even when you always choose the professional options for Ryder it comes off completely unprofessional. Emotional is too often too whiney Logical is most of the time just smartass and not logic Casual is, for fRyder, usualy sarcasm And professional comes out, way too often, unprofessional And the problem with the audience is... Emotionaly instable people do not see the whiney stuff Stupid people do not see how smartass flawed logical decisions are When not understood, sarcasm is seen as casual And only "true" professionals can see how unprofessional most lines are Long story short, bad writing. What is the old saying? Ignorance is a bless? Words of a true professional if there ever was one.
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Post by mofojokers on May 4, 2017 17:08:47 GMT
21 pages so far and it's still interesting to read. I honestly wonder if any of the feedback on this unofficial forums is even seen by anyone from Bioware. Definitely recommend this thread for a read. True, BW can definitely profit from what is said here, if they read. And if not, havent you said something about an upcoming open world scifi ip in the makings at Bethesda? ^^ Yeah but still rumors brrrr god i hope it's correct. Only because they do such unreal work with fantasy and post war rpgs. The idea of a Todd Howard Sci-fi in the likes of FO4 and Skyrim....... jesus... I need a good Sci-fi fix after the hole from MEA... Mind you Shadows of War has my mind covered at the moment. Shadows Of Mordor was so well done it was insane how many hours you could throw into it. Shadows of War releases soon and i think that it will make up for the lackluster games of late. (Besides HZD because o my lord was that good).😆
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Post by correctamundo on May 4, 2017 17:31:27 GMT
I have power in my life and I can't stand whimpy characters, in any game. Shep is vastly better than Ryder, hands down and even when you always choose the professional options for Ryder it comes off completely unprofessional. Emotional is too often too whiney Logical is most of the time just smartass and not logic Casual is, for fRyder, usualy sarcasm And professional comes out, way too often, unprofessional And the problem with the audience is... Emotionaly instable people do not see the whiney stuff Stupid people do not see how smartass flawed logical decisions are When not understood, sarcasm is seen as casual And only "true" professionals can see how unprofessional most lines are Long story short, bad writing. What is the old saying? Ignorance is a bless? But it is blatantly obvious to all when the narcissist begins lose it.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 17:39:03 GMT
Emotional is too often too whiney Logical is most of the time just smartass and not logic Casual is, for fRyder, usualy sarcasm And professional comes out, way too often, unprofessional And the problem with the audience is... Emotionaly instable people do not see the whiney stuff Stupid people do not see how smartass flawed logical decisions are When not understood, sarcasm is seen as casual And only "true" professionals can see how unprofessional most lines are Long story short, bad writing. What is the old saying? Ignorance is a bless? But it is blatantly obvious to all when the narcissist begins lose it. Is it just me, or did that blatant attempt to slander anyone who dares to appreciate Ryder's dialogue fail in spectacular fashion?
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Post by correctamundo on May 4, 2017 18:13:35 GMT
But it is blatantly obvious to all when the narcissist begins lose it. Is it just me, or did that blatant attempt to slander anyone who dares to appreciate Ryder's dialogue fail in spectacular fashion? You're not alone . In the Shepard vs Ryder discussion I sometimes feel that it was to easy with the blue/red choice dialogue. Just pick blue or red and Shep will be a badass one way or another. Maybe some of us just haven't learned to decipher the new wheel yet? I mean it is true that you cannot do whatever you want in every situation and you have to accept your crew stays on the Tempest but if you make the right choices you will get a very direct and forceful Ryder. Fryda has some real power in her voice when the situation warrants it. You will not get the psycho-killer though. On the other hand I tried to get science nerdy Shep but I never really succeeded.
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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 18:45:04 GMT
Ah i see now. The only reason i like the dialogue wheel is because i am as dumb as a bunch of rocks. Thank you for enlightening me. I now must go to my local community college so i can take courses in logic and philosophy. Oh wait. I did.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 18:57:07 GMT
I have power in my life and I can't stand whimpy characters, in any game. Shep is vastly better than Ryder, hands down and even when you always choose the professional options for Ryder it comes off completely unprofessional. Emotional is too often too whiney Logical is most of the time just smartass and not logic Casual is, for fRyder, usualy sarcasm And professional comes out, way too often, unprofessional And the problem with the audience is... Emotionaly instable people do not see the whiney stuff Stupid people do not see how smartass flawed logical decisions are When not understood, sarcasm is seen as casual And only "true" professionals can see how unprofessional most lines are Long story short, bad writing. What is the old saying? Ignorance is a bless? You know, they might just be having fun playing a video game, and a character they like, right? Lighten up, go out and take a walk sometime, get some sun, there is a big world out there beyond your game controller.
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Post by cobalt72 on May 4, 2017 19:10:29 GMT
Eh,if no one sees what you see or believes what you believe about the game they must be ignorant. I bow down to your wisdom
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Post by dm04 on May 4, 2017 19:16:45 GMT
You know, they might just be having fun playing a video game And? and a character they like, right? Anyone said they shouldn't? Lighten up, go out and take a walk sometime, get some sun, there is a big world out there beyond your game controller. And I am just stating MY opinion and sharing MY experience, people here may agree or disagree, right? If people feel insulted, then there is some truth to what was said. Just saying.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 19:26:03 GMT
You know, they might just be having fun playing a video game And? and a character they like, right? Anyone said they shouldn't? Lighten up, go out and take a walk sometime, get some sun, there is a big world out there beyond your game controller. And I am just stating MY opinion and sharing MY experience, people here may agree or disagree, right? If people feel insulted, then there is some truth to what was said. Just saying. No, you are insulting people who enjoy something you don't enjoy and coming across as kind of a wacko. Emotionally stable, and intelligent people might just not care about the same things you do in a gaming experience. People keep harping on Ryder's personality, or lack of military professionalism (even though she is not in a military), does it occur to you that some people just like the character as is, feel that they are adequate, or even desirable, for the gaming experience they want to have, and just don't really share your concerns? It's fine that you dislike the game and the character, but it is also fine that I and others do
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 19:28:13 GMT
Eh,if no one sees what you see or believes what you believe about the game they must be ignorant. I bow down to your wisdom The thing is, I see the things they are saying, I just don't care about them. Ryder for me went from untested kid to respected and confident pathfinder over the course of the game. That is what I wanted, and I got it. That she didn't turn into space Rambo, is just not a concern of mine.
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Post by cobalt72 on May 4, 2017 19:28:48 GMT
Eh, as I said in another topic if someone hates something so much why visit a board where that thing is being discussed?
Doesn't make sense to me. Not just this game but anything really. Why not spend more time discussing something you enjoy? Or better yet go and do what you enjoy. Whether it's a game, a book, going mountain climbing whatever.
Life is too short to be spent crying about something minor you dislike
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Post by dm04 on May 4, 2017 19:29:57 GMT
Eh,if no one sees what you see or believes what you believe about the game they must be ignorant. I bow down to your wisdom YOu are with two other people in a room with a bulp. You are blindfolded and see nothing and you are tasked to say what color is the light bulp. One person says red, the other green. One of them is red-green color blind. So what is it gonna be? I do not care whether someone do see some of the lines as "unprofessional" or won't see them that way, I am not judging them. I can just tell you the light is green and I am not colorblind, the rest is up to you.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 19:31:24 GMT
Eh, as I said in another topic if someone hates something so much why visit a board where that thing is being discussed? Doesn't make sense to me. Not just this game but anything really. Why not spend more time discussing something you enjoy? Or better yet go and do what you enjoy. Whether it's a game, a book, going mountain climbing whatever. Life is too short to be spent crying about something minor you dislike I hate Bethesda's roleplaying games, I dont hang around on their boards and berate people who enjoy them.
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Post by mofojokers on May 4, 2017 19:45:11 GMT
Eh, as I said in another topic if someone hates something so much why visit a board where that thing is being discussed? Doesn't make sense to me. Not just this game but anything really. Why not spend more time discussing something you enjoy? Or better yet go and do what you enjoy. Whether it's a game, a book, going mountain climbing whatever. Life is too short to be spent crying about something minor you dislike Depends on the intention if just hating for the reason of hate then yeah sure. If like us you love the mass effect universe to the point you wish it was almost reality.😆 But are very offended by the offering of MEA because of x issue. Doesn't mean you hate the series now but you want to make sure it's not repeated again for MEA 2. Take the issue of this thread and lack of choice or *badass* style. Regardless of your personal opinion, us here may see it as lacking or missing. Hopefully voicing our dislikes can help guide future ideas towards a better system for the next game. Personally i have alot of issues with MEA that i hope to see changed in MEA 2. As in MEA has very little i would consider worthy of the Mass Effect name. Things from : Companion customization - that we told them off for before with ME2....😧 Uuugh selling us new looks for them was fkn low... To Lack of renegade esk style choices and deep and meaningful choices.
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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2017 19:53:59 GMT
You know, they might just be having fun playing a video game And? and a character they like, right? Anyone said they shouldn't? Lighten up, go out and take a walk sometime, get some sun, there is a big world out there beyond your game controller. And I am just stating MY opinion and sharing MY experience, people here may agree or disagree, right? If people feel insulted, then there is some truth to what was said. Just saying. debate the topic, not the person.
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Post by cobalt72 on May 4, 2017 19:54:43 GMT
Sure but after a certain point it gets kind of "sad" for lack of a better word. I mean I'm sure this isn't the first topic or post regarding these issues. After awhile it just seems pathetic in my opinion. Like if I cry about it too maybe they'll listen!
You know what's really sad though is there are probably people still crying about DA2
Oh. I forgot to add that maybe there are people who don't see Ryder as soft or maybe they don't really care. It's your opinion that Ryder is soft. Not everyone agrees with you. And if they don't, doesn't make them ignorant or dumb
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 20:05:34 GMT
Eh, as I said in another topic if someone hates something so much why visit a board where that thing is being discussed? Doesn't make sense to me. Not just this game but anything really. Why not spend more time discussing something you enjoy? Or better yet go and do what you enjoy. Whether it's a game, a book, going mountain climbing whatever. Life is too short to be spent crying about something minor you dislike Depends on the intention if just hating for the reason of hate then yeah sure. If like us you love the mass effect universe to the point you wish it was almost reality.😆 But are very offended by the offering of MEA because of x issue. Doesn't mean you hate the series now but you want to make sure it's not repeated again for MEA 2. Take the issue of this thread and lack of choice or *badass* style. Regardless of your personal opinion, us here may see it as lacking or missing. Hopefully voicing our dislikes can help guide future ideas towards a better system for the next game. Personally i have alot of issues with MEA that i hope to see changed in MEA 2. As in MEA has very little i would consider worthy of the Mass Effect name. Things from : Companion customization - that we told them off for before with ME2....😧 Uuugh selling us new looks for them was fkn low... To Lack of renegade esk style choices and deep and meaningful choices. It's fine until one begins to make it personal and start insulting people for having different taste. When that happens it is no longer a critique, or a debate, but a juvenile hissy fit because one can't rhetorically arm wrestle others to their position. People who behave like that come across as unstable and immature.
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Post by Furisco on May 4, 2017 22:07:52 GMT
Debating is wrong
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 22:18:32 GMT
No...eating pizza with pineapple on it is wrong. Such people need to be sent to the reducation camps at once.
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