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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 11, 2018 2:24:27 GMT
Or MEHEM/JAM, if you've got a PC.
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Post by TabithaTH on Sept 11, 2018 7:41:18 GMT
If they ever decided on a canon ending, I also think it would be destroy. It’s easier to work with: it fits with the original mission of the series and it’s simplest to explain to new players. Also, if they decide to reuse Shepard, it’s the only one in which they potentially survive
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 12, 2018 2:26:15 GMT
If they ever decided on a canon ending, I also think it would be destroy. It’s easier to work with: it fits with the original mission of the series and it’s simplest to explain to new players. Also, if they decide to reuse Shepard, it’s the only one in which they potentially survive Yea Shepard is dead. He was dying before he met the Catalyst and he was in the middle of an explosion that wrecked the Citadel. The only way for him to survive is to be a literal God.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 12, 2018 2:33:47 GMT
If Shepard is a literal God to survive the explosion on the Citadel, would that mean he/she was a literal God after surviving Harbinger's beam of doom?
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Post by TabithaTH on Sept 12, 2018 6:53:54 GMT
If they ever decided on a canon ending, I also think it would be destroy. It’s easier to work with: it fits with the original mission of the series and it’s simplest to explain to new players. Also, if they decide to reuse Shepard, it’s the only one in which they potentially survive Yea Shepard is dead. He was dying before he met the Catalyst and he was in the middle of an explosion that wrecked the Citadel. The only way for him to survive is to be a literal God. Realistic or not, it doesn't change the fact that it's the only ending that officially can have Sherpard survive. My point is still valid.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 12, 2018 7:11:16 GMT
If Shepard is a literal God to survive the explosion on the Citadel, would that mean he/she was a literal God after surviving Harbinger's beam of doom? The Council allegedly survived the explosion on the Citadel. Why not Shepard? Besides, high EMS Destroy actually shows that Shepard survived, backed up by devs sayinh so.
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Post by Ascend on Sept 12, 2018 12:02:17 GMT
People sure are desperate to let Shepard survive.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 12, 2018 14:40:31 GMT
Yea Shepard is dead. He was dying before he met the Catalyst and he was in the middle of an explosion that wrecked the Citadel. The only way for him to survive is to be a literal God. Realistic or not, it doesn't change the fact that it's the only ending that officially can have Sherpard survive. My point is still valid. A breath doesn't mean survived. put enough voltage into a corpse and I can make it dance.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 12, 2018 17:11:11 GMT
Realistic or not, it doesn't change the fact that it's the only ending that officially can have Sherpard survive. My point is still valid. A breath doesn't mean survived. put enough voltage into a corpse and I can make it dance. The devs said Shepard survived. You can ignore that all you want but it's true.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 12, 2018 17:11:39 GMT
People sure are desperate to let Shepard survive. Sure, why not? Are you desperate to have Shepard dead?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 13, 2018 2:40:04 GMT
A breath doesn't mean survived. put enough voltage into a corpse and I can make it dance. The devs said Shepard survived. You can ignore that all you want but it's true. Yea got a link to that? Did they explain how a badly wounded and near death due to the splash damage of Harbinger's attack. You know the attack that can blow up a Mako with all that armor and shield like nothing. Then be near another explosion, massive energy discharge while laying in a previously unknown area for at least a day with those wounds before anyone could return to the Citadel and find that area to retrieve them. By that point all his blood would be on the outside of his body, his remaining organic organs starved of oxygen and die. I mean I suppose they could go and pull a Cerberus on him as long as Miranda was still alive but that would take a lot of time, money and morally questionable ethics. Time and money being in short supply given the entire galaxy is devastated and entire systems are isolated until the Relays are rebuild. And talk about that controversy when people find out the Alliance and Council spent the entire GDP of the Asari to bring back just one solider so he can live another 30-40 years while literally billions of other soldiers remain dead.
Once again proving Destroy is the bleakest possible ending short of maybe refuse for anyone that isn't sitting in a chair holding a controller or one of the select characters that have high enough access and status in their respective species to be given special treatment during the aftermath.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 13, 2018 2:40:58 GMT
People sure are desperate to let Shepard survive. Sure, why not? Are you desperate to have Shepard dead? Yes tells a better story then half dead man survives point blank nuclear explosion then walks away with a few bruises.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 13, 2018 2:44:38 GMT
Once again proving Destroy is the bleakest possible ending short of maybe refuse for anyone that isn't sitting in a chair holding a controller or one of the select characters that have high enough access and status in their respective species to be given special treatment during the aftermath. Bleak is still better than green.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 13, 2018 2:49:03 GMT
Yea Shepard is dead. He was dying before he met the Catalyst and he was in the middle of an explosion that wrecked the Citadel. The only way for him to survive is to be a literal God. Realistic or not, it doesn't change the fact that it's the only ending that officially can have Sherpard survive. My point is still valid. Well that depends on your over all view of the game's themes and how it's ending is treated and other such stuff. Because it is getting boring the surprisingly high number of people who complain about something in ME 3 but when you point out the same issue exists in ME 1 and/or 2 they make excuses how it is acceptable there but not in the last game.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 13, 2018 2:53:07 GMT
Once again proving Destroy is the bleakest possible ending short of maybe refuse for anyone that isn't sitting in a chair holding a controller or one of the select characters that have high enough access and status in their respective species to be given special treatment during the aftermath. Bleak is still better than green. Anything is better than green. Even Galactus devouring the galaxy is a better ending then the green ending.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 13, 2018 2:53:59 GMT
Once again proving Destroy is the bleakest possible ending short of maybe refuse for anyone that isn't sitting in a chair holding a controller or one of the select characters that have high enough access and status in their respective species to be given special treatment during the aftermath. Bleak is still better than green. Not if you apply the same hand wave away all realistic consequences of the choice. Then Green is the 110% best possible out come. And since Destroy is based on hand waving away all the realistic consequences your statement is provably wrong. Because I would rather be altered to be part machine in a painless way then be killed for the small bit of food I have while my sister is taken and raped. Which again are realistic possibilities given the galaxy wide destruction by the reapers which devastated planets, wiped out crops and infrastructure and isolated planets and systems with the Relays gone.
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Post by Ascend on Sept 13, 2018 12:12:03 GMT
People sure are desperate to let Shepard survive. Sure, why not? Are you desperate to have Shepard dead? I wouldn't call it desperate. But it offers closure to the trilogy. But that's exactly what people don't want apparently... People are unwilling to accept what is and let go.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 13, 2018 17:41:19 GMT
Sure, why not? Are you desperate to have Shepard dead? I wouldn't call it desperate. But it offers closure to the trilogy. But that's exactly what people don't want apparently... People are unwilling to accept what is and let go. That's not t he case with me. I want Shepard to retire, get married and raise a family. At least, that's my headcanon. Yes, though, I'm aware that people can't let go of Shepard because they get let go of him.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 13, 2018 21:26:33 GMT
Only needed one but thank you for your effort.
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Post by TheAntiSocialFatMan on Sept 13, 2018 22:04:38 GMT
To add to that, and correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't there some kinda of email app for ME3 where you could get bonus messages from the crew throughout your progress of the game, with one of these email being from Kaidan saying the doctors will let him visit you in the hospital soon, and you only get the message from the High EMS destroy ending?
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Post by ergates on Sept 26, 2018 11:10:32 GMT
I'm not a big fan of committing mass galactic genocide involving the wholesale extermination of decillions of innocent lives, so choosing the default 'destroy' ending is out for me.
Turning all life in the galaxy into a Borg-like hive consciousness is also a poor option, so 'synthesis' is a big no no.
If I had to choose a default ending it would be unknown results of 'control', for the simple reason that it seems to be the lesser of three evils.
But fortunately we have MEHEM - and so I don't have to worry about any of that.
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Post by Radec on Sept 26, 2018 12:00:32 GMT
default destroy. It gives you the cleanest slate to continue in the setting without Reapers floating around, which is the only reason I can think of for actually canonizing an ending.
Not particually worried about the synthetics. EDI is a lone individual who already "died" once on Luna, while the "Geth" died over Rannoch even if you saved them from the quarians, given that they're completely different individualized constructs running on Reaper software now. Makes enough sense that the beam would target them. If one still wished to have geth in the setting one could contrive an isolated pocket of them in some remote corner of the galaxy that never got Huskified/Reaperized and eventually replicated themselves to large numbers (this is what they do anyway, right?)
My own preference is Control, btw, but I acknowledge that it creates a state where large scale conflict is impossible, not exactly good for storytelling.
Synthesis is even more problematic in that regard.
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Post by shermos on Nov 22, 2018 16:04:46 GMT
My own preference is Control, btw, but I acknowledge that it creates a state where large scale conflict is impossible, not exactly good for storytelling.
I think Paragon/neutral Control can still have room for good storytelling. CataShep evidently becomes a pretty hands off peacekeeper. S/He will intervene to settle down any large scale conflict or injustice, but such a being wouldn't care about smaller scale stuff a tighter story could focus on. There could also be a natural disaster such as the one foreshadowed in ME2 which the Reapers themselves can't prevent or solve. The player could end up having to work with them on finding a solution while having to convince or deal with people and governments who are in denial of the problem.
Not saying this is necessarily the right way to go, but I believe it could work.
I've come to believe the ending should be retconned entirely. It's probably the best way to prevent any major fan upset.
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Post by burningcherry on Nov 23, 2018 21:15:35 GMT
My own preference is Control, btw, but I acknowledge that it creates a state where large scale conflict is impossible, not exactly good for storytelling. I think Paragon/neutral Control can still have room for good storytelling. CataShep evidently becomes a pretty hands off peacekeeper. S/He will intervene to settle down any large scale conflict or injustice, but such a being wouldn't care about smaller scale stuff a tighter story could focus on. There could also be a natural disaster such as the one foreshadowed in ME2 which the Reapers themselves can't prevent or solve. The player could end up having to work with them on finding a solution while having to convince or deal with people and governments who are in denial of the problem.
Not saying this is necessarily the right way to go, but I believe it could work.
I've come to believe the ending should be retconned entirely. It's probably the best way to prevent any major fan upset.
My dream ME5: You remember what the asari Councilor said after Thessia fell? "I need to take steps to preserve the civilization" or something like this. Imagine what would be if they sent a Mass Relay to Andromeda, for the AI to resettle the Milky Way if the war is lost. Now, let's see this relay making its way to Andromeda, both galaxies getting connected via this relay and Shepard fighting the kett as a Reaper fleet.
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