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Post by KaiserShep on May 5, 2017 22:46:28 GMT
I always thought ME3 had the most focus on its central plot than the other games did. ME1 was heavily padded by content that took you away from the Race Against Time, and ME2 was largely dominated by recruitment and loyalty missions. Most things you were doing in ME3 were generally directly related to the actual war against the reapers or combating Cerberus (who might as well have been Collectors 2: Illusive Bugaloo). I agree, it might be an unpolpular opinion to have around here, but 3 would be my favorite of the trilogy if I could have my blue babies with Liara without having to murder EDI and the Geth. That always leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Yeah, I've pretty much accepted the ending, and ME3 is my favorite of the trilogy, but I'd be lying if that little bit of blackmail at the end doesn't make me a wee bit salty.
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Post by erikson on May 5, 2017 22:51:22 GMT
I agree, it might be an unpolpular opinion to have around here, but 3 would be my favorite of the trilogy if I could have my blue babies with Liara without having to murder EDI and the Geth. That always leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Yeah, I've pretty much accepted the ending, and ME3 is my favorite of the trilogy, but I'd be lying if that little bit of blackmail at the end doesn't make me a wee bit salty. I've always been thankful that we didn't get a look at Joker's horrified face as his girlfriend's head explodes in the co-pilot seat. The fact he has a big dopey grin on his face when he steps out of the crashed Normandy makes it all the easier to paper things over for me.
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Post by themikefest on May 5, 2017 23:16:40 GMT
I've always been thankful that we didn't get a look at Joker's horrified face as his girlfriend's head explodes in the co-pilot seat. The fact he has a big dopey grin on his face when he steps out of the crashed Normandy makes it all the easier to paper things over for me. I'm sure he forgot about that platform once he found out his sister and dad are dead
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Post by erikson on May 5, 2017 23:19:36 GMT
I've always been thankful that we didn't get a look at Joker's horrified face as his girlfriend's head explodes in the co-pilot seat. The fact he has a big dopey grin on his face when he steps out of the crashed Normandy makes it all the easier to paper things over for me. I'm sure he forgot about that platform once he found out his sister and dad are dead Poor...poor EDI. Such a short life, and unmourned in her death.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on May 5, 2017 23:53:56 GMT
You must be a fun person at parties. My opinion is always right blarg blarg blarg. There are actually a lot more people outside these forums that enjoy MEA even with its problems which I do admit it has some. Stating the game like it is a piece of trash which you are doing is just plain wrong. Besides, I value combat above all else, and guess what, MEA has the best combat of the series. Doubt away all you like, I am sticking to my opinion because you are not the god you think you are. I can not remember ever saying MEA would be trash, I say it have a ton of problems, but never said trash. Whatever, you can split this up into 3 categories... Subjective: I do not like the story, it is not bad, but I do not like it, others do, so what? It is fine. I do not like the writing, it is not utter garbage, but I do not like it, others do, so what? It is fine. I do not like the "light" tone which does not match the setting, others do, so what? It is fine. We can argue about this aspects for an eternity and never come to an end. Semi-Subjective: This is difficult, but we can always look up some basic definition. An example I always like to give: inventory. An inventory is not defining for an RPG and is not necessary, truth is, I never missed it in ME2/3 (while others did). So what now? Well MEA got inventory back... but for what reason? Either a feature serves a purpose, or it is pointless. What purpose do MEA inventory serve? I do not say there isn't any, but I see none. Inventory can be a limiting factor, but MEA fails, they increased inv size from 60 to 100 in their first patch, rendering another feature (getting more inv slots by cryo perks) totaly useless, there is no limit to ressources, there is no limit to consumables, it only limits the few people who like to have all weapons/armors available to them. What is the "main" purpose of an inv? Well, that is arguable, but to me it is the ability to equip stuff on the fly and to have stuff available to equip my squad. I cant do any of that in MEA. Equipping on the fly? Nope. Equipping the squad? Nope. Limiting factor? Nope. Did I miss something? Objective: And that is the problem... bugs, many many many bugs. MEA got a ton and therefore MEA have a ton of problems. Case closed, I, in all my godly wisdom won the argument, you may kiss my feet now. I don't consider the bugs that bad though, so no, I would rather chop off the feat then kiss them because kissing them is disgusting. I can't even touch other peoples feet. Aka, you won nothing and my opinion it is a good game still stands. You will not win this war with me. That is a promise I can assure you.
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This.
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Post by President of Boom on May 6, 2017 0:44:15 GMT
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Post by mordrek on May 6, 2017 7:32:26 GMT
When 6 billion people around the world say "1+2=4" then 6 billion people are wrong, it is simple as that. Shit is shit. MEA have miriads of problems, just because you "maybe" do not see them does not mean they do not exist. And this is nothing about opinion, whether you like the story or not, the humor or not, the lighthearted approach or not or xyz, it does not make the problems go away, that is just wishfull thinking. And yes, if you do not see the problems, I highly doubt your intelligence and perception. Time you arrive in the reality mr special snowflake, wrong is wrong and not "oh he is not wrong, he is just special", thats how like everyone treat their kids nowaday and the kids then wake up to the reality. 6 Billion people used to think the sun revolved around the earth. The truth of a thing is not determined by numbers. Argumentum ad populum is an intellectual fallacy. All majority opinion proves is that it is an opinion held by a majority of people. And Jesus was buddies with the Muslims right? lol. In the 1600's there were about 400-500 million people on the earth.
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Post by erikson on May 6, 2017 7:36:41 GMT
6 Billion people used to think the sun revolved around the earth. The truth of a thing is not determined by numbers. Argumentum ad populum is an intellectual fallacy. All majority opinion proves is that it is an opinion held by a majority of people. And Jesus was buddies with the Muslims right? lol. In the 1600's there were about 400-500 million people on the earth. What the hell does that even mean? I was making a parrallel to his argument. You know full well what I meant was that it was believed by the majority and you are taking my words too literally on purpose in order to construct a lazy rejoinder.
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Post by thelonelypoet on May 6, 2017 9:15:24 GMT
First time playing ME1: could not enjoy the missions fully, I am still so damn lost in the Noveria hot labs mess but damn when I got over the messy maps and understood the mechanics, it became very dear to me. Best things: I was a friggin biotig Goddes. I loved to really play with my enemy. It was important who you picked with your missions: Tali and Wrex were my most trusted teammates because they covered what I lacked. The end game is the best of the serious, simply touching. The characters; Wrex is absolutely amazing from the beginning, Garrus is a young hothead who grows up in the sequels and Tali is a sweet and brave as your little sister. Then you got to meet captain Kirrahe, one of the most underrated character of the series.
And there is the iconic Liara. A nervous nerd girl with a mind like a bomb. She is my favorite in the Universe, really.
And of course, when you have a story what blows your mind nothing really matters AND we still have plenty of enjoyable stuff. Encountering first time with Sovereign and Vigil gets all my praise, too. Oh god I am almost teary. I will never stop to play this game. I will carry it with me til the elder days.
Ps. Loved the Mako. My Shepard has a laugh in ME2 when we discover Mako in Alchera... it has zero damage. And it has falled from the space. Of course it has zero damage.
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Post by The Twilight God on May 6, 2017 15:06:06 GMT
Because Bioware did not plan this out despite the claim that it was always intended to be a trilogy. They completely wasted the events of ME1. So we end up with 2 not being all that relevant and 3 being a deus ex machina. This has been my own major criticism of ME2 as well. It's like Ep1 in the Star Wars series which does not really forward the plot. So instead of telling a story in 3 movies the coming of Vader was crammed into 2 movies and the rush job shows. I've never really looked at ME2 as a Reaper story. It's just this fun episodic side story. While I see people praising the suicide mission like it's the best thing ever I was never impressed. I loved ME1's ending, but ME2's was "meh". One advantage that ME: A has is that they can plan out where the game will go. I think the transition will go smoother in the sequels. They could have planned out the original trilogy. There was nothing stopping them. So I don't have any faith in them to do Andromeda any better.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 6, 2017 15:42:22 GMT
First time playing ME1: could not enjoy the missions fully, I am still so damn lost in the Noveria hot labs mess but damn when I got over the messy maps and understood the mechanics, it became very dear to me. Best things: I was a friggin biotig Goddes. I loved to really play with my enemy. It was important who you picked with your missions: Tali and Wrex were my most trusted teammates because they covered what I lacked. The end game is the best of the serious, simply touching. The characters; Wrex is absolutely amazing from the beginning, Garrus is a young hothead who grows up in the sequels and Tali is a sweet and brave as your little sister. Then you got to meet captain Kirrahe, one of the most underrated character of the series. And there is the iconic Liara. A nervous nerd girl with a mind like a bomb. She is my favorite in the Universe, really. And of course, when you have a story what blows your mind nothing really matters AND we still have plenty of enjoyable stuff. Encountering first time with Sovereign and Vigil gets all my praise, too. Oh god I am almost teary. I will never stop to play this game. I will carry it with me til the elder days. Ps. Loved the Mako. My Shepard has a laugh in ME2 when we discover Mako in Alchera... it has zero damage. And it has falled from the space. Of course it has zero damage. I am so jealous ! I will really give a lot to be able to play ME1 for the very first, still have the mystery to discover... After +10 playthroughs, i still love this game so much. The only problem is, that i remember almost every conversation, every dialogue in the background, even all the small side-quests. Amazing game, and absolutely fantastic soundtrack. I hope one day ME modding community will make a mod which will give us "exploration" tracks from ME1 - when driving Mako - in MEA.
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Post by mordrek on May 6, 2017 15:55:43 GMT
And Jesus was buddies with the Muslims right? lol. In the 1600's there were about 400-500 million people on the earth. What the hell does that even mean? I was making a parrallel to his argument. You know full well what I meant was that it was believed by the majority and you are taking my words too literally on purpose in order to construct a lazy rejoinder. Wow, maybe you should get an education. Muslims didn't exist when Jesus was alive. Ignorant people still make the argument. Saying 6 billion people thought the earth was flat is also not just factually wrong, but incredibly ignorant. Instead of simply admitting you were wrong, you turned into an even bigger moron by saying "YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!" Whether it was a mistake, or you are just some flat earther, it's not my job to infer your meaning. Learn to communicate appropriately. And if anyone in this conversation thread deserves the title of "Lazy" thought, that would be you bud.
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Post by linksocarina on May 6, 2017 16:03:01 GMT
What the hell does that even mean? I was making a parrallel to his argument. You know full well what I meant was that it was believed by the majority and you are taking my words too literally on purpose in order to construct a lazy rejoinder. Wow, maybe you should get an education. Muslims didn't exist when Jesus was alive. Ignorant people still make the argument. Saying 6 billion people thought the earth was flat is also not just factually wrong, but incredibly ignorant. Instead of simply admitting you were wrong, you turned into an even bigger moron by saying "YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!" Whether it was a mistake, or you are just some flat earther, it's not my job to infer your meaning. Learn to communicate appropriately. Andy if anyone in this conversation thread deserves the title of "Lazy" thought, that would you be bud. The only thing lazy is the metaphor you employ here and purposefull accusation against someone else. Kind of pathetic,actually.
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Post by mordrek on May 6, 2017 16:11:46 GMT
Wow, maybe you should get an education. Muslims didn't exist when Jesus was alive. Ignorant people still make the argument. Saying 6 billion people thought the earth was flat is also not just factually wrong, but incredibly ignorant. Instead of simply admitting you were wrong, you turned into an even bigger moron by saying "YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!" Whether it was a mistake, or you are just some flat earther, it's not my job to infer your meaning. Learn to communicate appropriately. Andy if anyone in this conversation thread deserves the title of "Lazy" thought, that would you be bud. The only thing lazy is the metaphor you employ here and purposefull accusation against someone else. Kind of pathetic,actually. The funny thing is, there is no metaphor, you need an education too. Kinda pathetic isn't it? lol.
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Post by linksocarina on May 6, 2017 16:28:06 GMT
The only thing lazy is the metaphor you employ here and purposefull accusation against someone else. Kind of pathetic,actually. The funny thing is, there is no metaphor, you need an education too. Kinda pathetic isn't it? lol. Funny, you are guilty of the same thing you know. I got to point out something about your false metaphor, which is the validity of a historical Jesus being questioned. For one, no historical records of Jesus actually exist, the few that are attributed to Jesus refer to the title 'Christos' in Roman historical narratives, never a full name. That title was given to several individuals in the 1st century. Many historians take for granted the historical validity of Jesus due to the use of Pontius Pilate and John the Baptist in most Christian narratives, but a lot of those stories still suffered from a game of telephone- not to mention the fact that the current version of the New Testament was formulated around 320 C.E under the Council of Nicea by Emperor Constantine, who selected the gospels based on the specific mandate that Jesus was a divine figure. This went against, of course, other interpretations of the story of Jesus and even some of the teachings of Paul of Tarsus, the first true Christian to travel Rome historically and spread Christianity as a mystery cult within the Roman Empire. So...yeah, jury is still technically out as to whether Jesus ever lived, as historians debate the historical validity of Jesus being real. What matters more is the message of course, but if were going to play the game of being historically accurate...I guess you need an education too on things so banal to the overall discussion of what is going on here. Also as an aside, perhaps you should not tell a college professor of history they need an education. As boastful as I probably am right now, you might just get schooled if you do that .
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Post by mordrek on May 6, 2017 16:54:52 GMT
The funny thing is, there is no metaphor, you need an education too. Kinda pathetic isn't it? lol. Funny, you are guilty of the same thing you know. I got to point out something about your false metaphor, which is the validity of a historical Jesus being questioned. For one, no historical records of Jesus actually exist, the few that are attributed to Jesus refer to the title 'Christos' in Roman historical narratives, never a full name. That title was given to several individuals in the 1st century. Many historians take for granted the historical validity of Jesus due to the use of Pontius Pilate and John the Baptist in most Christian narratives, but a lot of those stories still suffered from a game of telephone- not to mention the fact that the current version of the New Testament was formulated around 320 C.E under the Council of Nicea by Emperor Constantine, who selected the gospels based on the specific mandate that Jesus was a divine figure. This went against, of course, other interpretations of the story of Jesus and even some of the teachings of Paul of Tarsus, the first true Christian to travel Rome historically and spread Christianity as a mystery cult within the Roman Empire. So...yeah, jury is still technically out as to whether Jesus ever lived, as historians debate the historical validity of Jesus being real. What matters more is the message of course, but if were going to play the game of being historically accurate...I guess you need an education too on things so banal to the overall discussion of what is going on here. Also as an aside, perhaps you should not tell a college professor of history they need an education. As boastful as I probably am right now, you might just get schooled if you do that . lol, sir, if you are a college professor of history, I am Jesus Christ. I can't imagine anyone with even a Bachelor's Degree not understanding the difference between a Metaphor and an Anology. But you keep on winning on the internet Kiddo, lol.
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Post by vonuber on May 6, 2017 17:05:49 GMT
lol, sir, if you are a college professor of history, I am Jesus Christ. Mary wants to know if you want chips or peas for dinner.
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Post by mordrek on May 6, 2017 17:14:13 GMT
lol, sir, if you are a college professor of history, I am Jesus Christ. Mary wants to know if you want chips or peas for dinner. A special part of me hopes he really is a college professor which would show just how pathetic a PHD can be. Sadly he's probably just some kid in his dad's basement. But the fact he couldn't differentiate a metaphor from an analogy, gave me a warm fuzzy. And tell Mary I'll have chips, thanks!
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Post by dm04 on May 6, 2017 18:09:37 GMT
Mary wants to know if you want chips or peas for dinner. A special part of me hopes he really is a college professor which would show just how pathetic a PHD can be. Sadly he's probably just some kid in his dad's basement. But the fact he couldn't differentiate a metaphor from an analogy, gave me a warm fuzzy. And tell Mary I'll have chips, thanks! Haven't read any evidence he cant. Haven't read any evidence you can. Whatever he claims to be, you are for sure full of yourself.
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Post by peabuddie on May 6, 2017 19:45:43 GMT
The fact Andromeda is unable to shake off the ghost of a ten year old game is all you need to know. That ghost was going to be there regardless I think. It will always be there. I see what you're saying but I believe the logic is flawed. If MEA had been spectacular and blown any of the other 3 out of the water, we wouldn't even be talking about ME1 or 2 or 3 AT ALL. If MEA was so good that it made us almost forget that the other tree existed the conversations we would be having would be completely different. THe fact that we are comparing it to ME1 and in many cases discussing it's failing in comparison says a lot about MEA's shortcomings.
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Post by linksocarina on May 6, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
That ghost was going to be there regardless I think. It will always be there. I see what you're saying but I believe the logic is flawed. If MEA had been spectacular and blown any of the other 3 out of the water, we wouldn't even be talking about ME1 or 2 or 3 AT ALL. If MEA was so good that it made us almost forget that the other tree existed the conversations we would be having would be completely different. THe fact that we are comparing it to ME1 and in many cases discussing it's failing in comparison says a lot about MEA's shortcomings. Possibly. At that same token though, it's kind of inevitable to have this conversation. Like, the recent release of Breath of the Wild has been called the best Zelda game ever made by a lot of people, while others say it is still not as good as Ocarina of Time, or the original Zelda, or Wind Waker, or whatever favorite they had. It is fandom at it's best sometimes, the sort of discussions you can have with folks on something you all enjoy. If it wasn't about Zelda, it would be a Fallout game. Or The Witcher series, or some other beloved franchise that will see it eventually compared to the past. Whether it is compared favorably or not is always going to be subjective ultimately., especially to it's previous installments and the legacy they create. That baggage will be there, so to speak, I think even if Andromeda was a great game. I would bet there would be people still comparing it unfavorably to Mass Effect 1 in some form as well if it had universal acclaim. It is sort of what we do when we have benchmarks to hold it up to.
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Post by smilesja on May 6, 2017 21:54:18 GMT
I see what you're saying but I believe the logic is flawed. If MEA had been spectacular and blown any of the other 3 out of the water, we wouldn't even be talking about ME1 or 2 or 3 AT ALL. If MEA was so good that it made us almost forget that the other tree existed the conversations we would be having would be completely different. THe fact that we are comparing it to ME1 and in many cases discussing it's failing in comparison says a lot about MEA's shortcomings. Possibly. At that same token though, it's kind of inevitable to have this conversation. Like, the recent release of Breath of the Wild has been called the best Zelda game ever made by a lot of people, while others say it is still not as good as Ocarina of Time, or the original Zelda, or Wind Waker, or whatever favorite they had. It is fandom at it's best sometimes, the sort of discussions you can have with folks on something you all enjoy. If it wasn't about Zelda, it would be a Fallout game. Or The Witcher series, or some other beloved franchise that will see it eventually compared to the past. Whether it is compared favorably or not is always going to be subjective ultimately., especially to it's previous installments and the legacy they create. That baggage will be there, so to speak, I think even if Andromeda was a great game. I would bet there would be people still comparing it unfavorably to Mass Effect 1 in some form as well if it had universal acclaim. It is sort of what we do when we have benchmarks to hold it up to. Yeah there were some people who said that Origins wasn't as good as BG 1 or BG 2 in the past.
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