People need to stop praising ME1

Metaphorical, philosophical, all of that jazz that makes it a-typical.

Maybe not the best endings in the world...but good endings for the respected series. 

liking blue or red is a different opinion
liking brunettes or blondes is a different opinion
liking cup D+ or B is a different opinion
saying there are plotholes in ME and none in MEA is just plain stupidity born of... well no idea, gues you want to defend MEA at all cost

btw I am still missing an answer about the RPG elements, you said there are none in ME, yet the game is labeled RPG, so? Come on, I will not bother you reminding you of the 4 other questions I asked and you just ignored because you are short of answers. Just this one... so no RPG in ME, what defines RPG then?

or i just haven't found any yet. Whereas i know of at least THREE major plot holes in ME 1. Which is what i am talking about. Yes there are some minor plot holes in a line here or there in MEA. There are stuff you have to stretch logic or suspend disbelief...but nothing that threatens the continuity of the entire franchise or making the hero super special...for reasons.

And where did i say ME 1 isn't a RPG? By most metrics its a GREAT RPG especially for the time. But Andromeda made several improvements.

I'm not going to pretend that any definitive answer I give will satisfy anyone.  But it cannot be denied that mechanics traditionally viewed as "rpg mechanics" have been getting more and more stripped out of their games in favor of faster-paced, more "streamlined" experiences.

 

I know, I gues thats one of the reason, if not THE reason, why RPgamers are so upset with BW. If we divide all customers into two groups, it is like 90% shooter and 10% rpg, if, as company, you know you can sell only to 1% of a "any faction", you better target the shooter fans. Sooner or later BW games will just become like gears of war or cod or whatever else, a shooting experience with a little bit of story attached, nothing spectacular. However, thats not what I want to know, I am interested how others define RPG.

That better? What RPG elements do you meant? And no, you have not clarified that later. This statement is out in the air without clarification and arguments.

And you said something about major plot holes in ME, 3 if I am right. Name them please, as I missed them completely.

MEA.. there is a plausibility problem like 10minutes into the game and we have not even started playing (and no I am not speaking about the AI itself and how they could leave without "old" ME players knowing). Depending how anyone plays... there is like another plausibility problem 25minutes later (though we could let that slip as it seems to be BioWares way to explain everything in MEA), another one we get another 15minutes later... and yes it becomes fewer later on, but never completely disappears, especialy if we take one of this "plot holes" as granted, then the rest based on this "plotline" makes even less sense then before. I named the starting point here in this thread already, up to now there is noone dismissing my claims and arguments, the other 2 can be found here on the forum, but I can bring them up again if a) interested and b ) I already get this RPG elements and the ME plotholes out of you .

PS: I do not hate/dislike MEA... maybe I should put that into my sig, it seems a lot of people thinks so because of my MEA "criticism".

You just listed everything that ME1 also has.

People can continue to praise ME1... nothing wrong with that. They should, however, take their total blinders off. It's not a perfect story and not a perfect game. There are many things the other ME games have done better than ME1. There's good moments in all of them... and bad moments in any of them, some good mechanics in all of them and some bad mechanics in any of them. If Bioware released a game just like ME1 today (even with improved graphics), I'm sure it would get panned in a whole lot of ways. It probably wouldn't sell very well either. Case closed, IMO.

You specifically cannot bang the Kett...

You're right, the Khett are just generic bad guy race # 87953

Are they really?  I am beginning to think there is a lot more to the Khett then what was revealed in Andromeda.