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Post by gethadept on Apr 24, 2017 14:44:16 GMT
I know this is MP forum, but I want to tell you guys specifically that SP might worth your time. Yes. MEA SP has many issues. Almost everybody pointed out how underwhelming facial/movement animation is... along with poor dialogue and story. I stopped playing it because it was so non-immersive, but I went back for it this weekend because MP had serious crashing issues on PS4. Anyway, despite all the problems reside within, MEA SP gives you one great reason to invest your time into it. Complete freedom of power combination including nearly unlimited power resets.This is something that wasn`t even allowed to Commander Shepard. MEA MP multiplayer characters mostly have boring and disappointing combination of powers. As you play MEA MP, you must have been wondering what if there was a character with this and that power together, and the SP can make any of this combination come true. For example, this weekend I was playing SP with following combination. Charge + Annihilation + Shockwave + Piranha + Asari sword. The result was exactly what you could imagine. Unstoppable Biotic Hulk. Interesting behavior was that Annihlation gets briefly shut off before charge activates then get reactivated once charge is over.. so u cannot self detonate annihilation with charge.. but shockwave + annihilation can cause massive number of biotic combo at the same time. You can also try something like Incineration + Overload + Energy drain. They can cause tech & fire explosion nonstop back to back all the time because all three of them are both primer and detonator. SP can be fun even for MP players because it`s free weapon/power simulator once you reach level 30 or so. As MP players, you guys do APEX missions and the bonus looting boxes for APEX missions even allow you to be free from tedious side quests given in SP for poor rewards. If you haven`t really got yourself into SP, give it a try and raise Ryder`s level to 30. You can use it as fun combat simulator that MP can never provide on its own.  |
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 24, 2017 14:47:41 GMT
Plus, you can see how the weapons and powers would work if they actually caused damage.
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Post by saints on Apr 24, 2017 14:53:23 GMT
Plus, you can see how the weapons and powers would work if they actually caused damage. Hell, you can give ARs and shotguns 100% accuracy. Makes me think that devs might put stuff like this into the multiplayer. Wishful thinking. |
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 24, 2017 14:55:25 GMT
Complete freedom of powers is BS. I just picked my 3 fave power I can chain combo, a dash of passives, and now all these other levels I'm gaining are meaningless. So the motivation to level up is now gone too. Bravo, BioFail.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Apr 24, 2017 14:57:07 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission.
Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you:
* Watch Jenkins die.
* Fight some Geth.
* Meet Ashley.
* Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian.
* Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon.
Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you:
* Wander around and practice jumping.
* Listen to Liam prattle on.
* Fight some Kett.
* Maybe explore a Remnant ruin.
And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story.
BORE. ING.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 24, 2017 14:57:09 GMT
Yeah. Weapons feel amazing.
Wow... I can tell why people won`t stop talking about Piranha. It not only works good but also feels good to shoot.
I am actually practicing Vanquisher in SP.
Feels really good everytime I make a headshot.. but kinda disappointing to see no head popping.
I know it`s a long shot.. but I hope MP gets a new enemy faction added from SP consist of Angaran force & wild animals.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 24, 2017 14:58:38 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you: * Wander around and practice jumping. * Listen to Liam prattle on. * Fight some Kett. * Maybe explore a Remnant ruin. And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story. BORE. ING. Yeah. It`s really hard to get into it emotionally. I really forced myself to play it 30 minutes to one hour a day after I play MP, and now it at least serves as interesting combat simulator. |
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Post by poultrymancer on Apr 24, 2017 15:00:57 GMT
I've put quite a bit of time into the SP, and the thing that sticks out to me so glaringly is the fact that power use is so much closer to the trilogy than in MP, especially once you get north of level 50. Between the combination of passive trees and profile bonuses, cooldown times are actually pretty reasonable. And detonations are useful for more than momentary staggers.
It's like they balanced MP powers without accounting for the fact that we can't get manageable cooldowns using the mechanisms available in SP.
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Post by saints on Apr 24, 2017 15:01:40 GMT
Gotta pick up on conversations though. Believe it or not, Cora trained with Asari Huntresses and like gardens. You'll never find out unless you REALLY pay attention.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 24, 2017 15:02:54 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you: * Wander around and practice jumping. * Listen to Liam prattle on. * Fight some Kett. * Maybe explore a Remnant ruin. And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story. BORE. ING. This is why I grabbed a copy of the original game and started playing it again. The story and characters are just better than in MEA. |
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Post by Matterthief on Apr 24, 2017 15:07:03 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. And put Manuel to sleep, if you feel so inclined. "Protect it at ANY cost, don't forget that part!"  |
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 24, 2017 15:10:45 GMT
I am playing sp and started with a full soldier spec but am going to respec pretty soon. Ammo limitations on some of the bigger battles are really hurting me.
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Post by BDaddy1968 on Apr 24, 2017 15:15:37 GMT
I'm running charge + annihilation + shield powered lance with piranha + black widow secondary. Throw in Cora's constant shield-boost spam and Insanity becomes paper difficulty. Large single enemies can be a pita, but give me a big group of goons and the hate flows freely.
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Post by kpeter on Apr 24, 2017 15:16:48 GMT
along with poor dialogue and story. Who wants to waste time for a story based game when the story itself (and the dialogues and the characters) is poor? |
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Post by gethadept on Apr 24, 2017 15:25:11 GMT
along with poor dialogue and story. Who wants to waste time for a story based game when the story itself (and the dialogues and the characters) is poor? Yeah. I`d say it was pretty poor decision when they decided to let some weird ancient alien technology magically fix all the major problems in MEA. Where did we hear that story before? lol There are a lot of other smaller issues regarding the story and characters... but there are many people whom find them absolutely acceptable so I wouldn`t discuss it further here. hehe |
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Post by poultrymancer on Apr 24, 2017 15:26:45 GMT
Complete freedom of powers is BS. I just picked my 3 fave power I can chain combo, a dash of passives, and now all these other levels I'm gaining are meaningless. So the motivation to level up is now gone too. Bravo, BioFail. You're entitled to your opinion, but I completely disagree. I enjoy having the flexibility to switch between, say, a vanguard build for kett and an infiltrator specced for shield damage against remnant. I routinely make use of at least two of the profile slots, and the third and fourth occasionally. |
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Post by Kukki_Kaiju on Apr 24, 2017 15:31:04 GMT
I know this is MP forum, but I want to tell you guys specifically that SP might worth your time. Yes. MEA SP has many issues. Almost everybody pointed out how underwhelming facial/movement animation is... along with poor dialogue and story. I stopped playing it because it was so non-immersive, but I went back for it this weekend because MP had serious crashing issues on PS4. Anyway, despite all the problems reside within, MEA SP gives you one great reason to invest your time into it. Complete freedom of power combination including nearly unlimited power resets.This is something that wasn`t even allowed to Commander Shepard. MEA MP multiplayer characters mostly have boring and disappointing combination of powers. As you play MEA MP, you must have been wondering what if there was a character with this and that power together, and the SP can make any of this combination come true. For example, this weekend I was playing SP with following combination. Charge + Annihilation + Shockwave + Piranha + Asari sword. The result was exactly what you could imagine. Unstoppable Biotic Hulk. Interesting behavior was that Annihlation gets briefly shut off before charge activates then get reactivated once charge is over.. so u cannot self detonate annihilation with charge.. but shockwave + annihilation can cause massive number of biotic combo at the same time. You can also try something like Incineration + Overload + Energy drain. They can cause tech & fire explosion nonstop back to back all the time because all three of them are both primer and detonator. SP can be fun even for MP players because it`s free weapon/power simulator once you reach level 30 or so. As MP players, you guys do APEX missions and the bonus looting boxes for APEX missions even allow you to be free from tedious side quests given in SP for poor rewards. If you haven`t really got yourself into SP, give it a try and raise Ryder`s level to 30. You can use it as fun combat simulator that MP can never provide on its own. Very good assessment. I too like you gave up but am willing to try it again with this new information you have brought to light. Kudos! |
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 24, 2017 15:47:50 GMT
Complete freedom of powers is BS. I just picked my 3 fave power I can chain combo, a dash of passives, and now all these other levels I'm gaining are meaningless. So the motivation to level up is now gone too. Bravo, BioFail. The way leveling works makes me think they really wanted you to be switching powers and profiles on the fly. One second you're up in their faces charging and punching, the next you're cloaking and making heads asplode from afar, and then you switch into Engineer profile for some tech bursts. Literally with one key press. Problem is, there's very little reason to do that. Encounters don't ever require you to change profiles even on Insanity, and forcing your powers into CD every time you switch kinda defeats the point. But hey, at least Fiends in SP don't sync from across the room, under the floor, or behind walls. That's gotta count for something right? |
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 24, 2017 15:48:08 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you: * Wander around and practice jumping. * Listen to Liam prattle on. * Fight some Kett. * Maybe explore a Remnant ruin. And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story. BORE. ING. I'm not going to defend Mass Effect: Andromeda at this moment, though I like it, and it's slower pace, and less rush, and less protagonist-being-the-hero-stuff. But I just have to say there are plenty of good games with a slow/not-as-interesting-as-the-rest-of-the-game first 30 minutes: -Planescape: Torment - Yes you wake up on a slab because you were dead and some floating skull talks to you and starts being your first companion. Then you have to wander around that mausoleum in search of well...what exactly? Your identity? It SOUNDS more interesting than it actually is. The starting area that is. And many consider this game (including myself) to be one of the best games ever made. -Baldur's Gate had a boring prologue. -The first half of Neverwinter Nights wasn't so great. -Doom 3's prologue is boring. -Dragon Age 2 had an actual INTERESTiNG prologue, but it's not considered by many as an awesome game... -The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind starts out in the most boring village of the entire game, raspy voice: 'Outlander...' Oh and how long did it take for starting a new game, and Gordon actually ending up in... The Test...Chamberrrr? |
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Post by JRandall0308 on Apr 24, 2017 16:03:13 GMT
I'm not going to defend Mass Effect: Andromeda at this moment, though I like it, and it's slower pace, and less rush, and less protagonist-being-the-hero-stuff. But I just have to say there are plenty of good games with a slow/not-as-interesting-as-the-rest-of-the-game first 30 minutes: -Planescape: Torment - Yes you wake up on a slab because you were dead and some floating skull talks to you and starts being your first companion. Then you have to wander around that mausoleum in search of well...what exactly? Your identity? It SOUNDS more interesting than it actually is. The starting area that is. And many consider this game (including myself) to be one of the best games ever made. -Baldur's Gate had a boring prologue. -The first half of Neverwinter Nights wasn't so great. -Doom 3's prologue is boring. -Dragon Age 2 had an actual INTERESTiNG prologue, but it's not considered by many as an awesome game... -The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind starts out in the most boring village of the entire game, raspy voice: 'Outlander...' Oh and how long did it take for starting a new game, and Gordon actually ending up in... The Test...Chamberrrr? None of those are action RPGs except Dragon Age 2. So flawed comparison is flawed. |
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Post by BadgerladDK on Apr 24, 2017 16:17:45 GMT
OP, you missed the most awesome combo: the vanguard surprise. Cloak, charge and... Whatever you want. I normally give no fucks about achievements, but I was glad to see there was one for doing this.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 24, 2017 16:25:07 GMT
OP, you missed the most awesome combo: the vanguard surprise. Cloak, charge and... Whatever you want. I normally give no fucks about achievements, but I was glad to see there was one for doing this. I didn`t realize that one even have an achievement. It outright sounds like a great power combination though. I am having few ideas I want to try on later. haha. Like Invasion & other DoT combo or turret specials. In ME3 Tali could not put up 2 pets at the same time. I wonder how it is in MEA. |
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 24, 2017 16:33:01 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you: * Wander around and practice jumping. * Listen to Liam prattle on. * Fight some Kett. * Maybe explore a Remnant ruin. And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story. BORE. ING. Kids these days have zero patience for slower paced stories do they? If you gave it another 15-20 minutes you would have seen a bit more and the antagonist introduced. And the game sets up quite a bit for future content and sequels throughout the game. It really makes me think people just wanted a carbon copy of ME1. But, then they would have gone all Force Awakens on people and complain that it's too similar. I don't think Bioware could win with this one. People are too fickle nowadays. |
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 24, 2017 16:34:46 GMT
I want to get into SP but they really boned the opening mission. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect 1 opening mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Normandy - you: * Watch Jenkins die. * Fight some Geth. * Meet Ashley. * Watch Saren betray and murder ThatOtherTurian. * Have a crazy Lovecraftian vision from the Prothean Beacon. Within the first 30 minutes of the Mass Effect Andromeda mission - the playable part after you get done talking to everyone on the Space Noah's Ark - you: * Wander around and practice jumping. * Listen to Liam prattle on. * Fight some Kett. * Maybe explore a Remnant ruin. And that's it. No antagonist introduction, no teammate introduction, no sense of the larger story. BORE. ING. I'm not going to defend Mass Effect: Andromeda at this moment, though I like it, and it's slower pace, and less rush, and less protagonist-being-the-hero-stuff.
Most of the rest of what you said is totally valid, however that statement had me scratching my head. Ryder is a very stereotypical chosen one hero. |
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Post by Transcended One on Apr 24, 2017 16:48:49 GMT
I'm not going to defend Mass Effect: Andromeda at this moment, though I like it, and it's slower pace, and less rush, and less protagonist-being-the-hero-stuff.
Most of the rest of what you said is totally valid, however that statement had me scratching my head. Ryder is a very stereotypical chosen one hero. Even though he/she is shoven into the hero role early on, at least the surroundings take a short while to get used to the idea. But ultimately I suppose you're right. |
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