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Post by Sifr on Sept 9, 2016 23:23:36 GMT
And I'm calling him "dad pants" from now on lol. Some people call him the space-cowboy.
Some people call him the gangster of love.
Some people call him... Maurice.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 9, 2016 23:59:50 GMT
He makes a point of saying our sibling is "out there somewhere", so I really doubt they die. At least, at the start. An easy plot would be: Dad woke up first, Dad went missing, siblings wake up, non-PC sibling goes off to track Dad via their own methods/following one lead while PC sibling looks for him via vault hunting/following a different lead. And they occasionally check in with one another. No one has to be dead. Now, if Dad is an antagonist in the end, I could totally see them having the sibling side with him. Or they could make it more complicated. Perhaps, the sibling will just end up opposite of you regardless. Like, If you take the more aggressive approaches, which would likely be more like Dad's methods or something, maybe the sibling will prefer the more diplomatic ones, so you'll be opposed in the end, but *you* are the one siding with Dad (who would, by your choice, not technically be an antagonist for you)? And then reverse all that if you take the more diplomatic routes. I swear if he cuts off Ryders hand with a red omniblade and says "Barla Von never told you what happened to your father"...
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Post by BioFan on Sept 9, 2016 23:59:54 GMT
And I'm calling him "dad pants" from now on lol. Some people call him the space-cowboy.
Some people call him the gangster of love.
Some people call him... Maurice.
It's gonna be "dad pants guy". It is my personal mission now.
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Post by Dabrikishaw on Sept 10, 2016 0:13:05 GMT
So the unchosen sibling will be a squadmate then?
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Post by Petroshenko on Sept 10, 2016 0:28:24 GMT
The whole thing's gonna be a bit weird TBH. Not sure how they will solve unchosen sibling. One 5-second cameo? Major character? It's 2 separate characters occupying the same "slot" in the story yet both technically exist at the same time. Wasn't the case with m/FemShep. Both Ryders will be canon, yet only 1 will canonically do the main plot Andromeda things
But I guess it will promote playing both genders more than m/FemShep did
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Post by Kaibe on Sept 10, 2016 2:45:36 GMT
My Ryder is going to be the bartender in Ten Forward. Same but more free drinks and less actually being a bartender. Same but no bartending and is actually just an alcoholic.
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Post by melbella on Sept 10, 2016 3:15:09 GMT
Well, since humans can live up to 150 years if i recall right, The N7 guy AKA doomguy Dad can be at his 80s and look like... 40s? That's how damned good N7's are! The old man is still amazing, even if he is a little winded after taking that jet jump up a steep cliff. I can't stop rewatching the Ghost Ryder trailer now. I hope we can speak with him in game before whatever happens, happens. Makes me prouder to have played my favorite N7, Commander Shepard.
I just rewatched that one and the EA Play one from earlier this year and was struck by a thought.....the narration during the latter says we are looking for a new home for humanity, which made me think: what if the Reapers won? What if Refuse is the "canon" ending?
Anyway, back to reading through the thread....
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 10, 2016 3:16:55 GMT
That's how damned good N7's are! The old man is still amazing, even if he is a little winded after taking that jet jump up a steep cliff. I can't stop rewatching the Ghost Ryder trailer now. I hope we can speak with him in game before whatever happens, happens. Makes me prouder to have played my favorite N7, Commander Shepard.
I just rewatched that one and the EA Play one from earlier this year and was struck by a thought.....the narration during the latter says we are looking for a new home for humanity, which made me think: what if the Reapers won? What if Refuse is the "canon" ending?
Anyway, back to reading through the thread....
They won't do that. If they were going to make an ending canon, there would be no reason to go to Andromeda.
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Post by melbella on Sept 10, 2016 4:03:32 GMT
Unless it's the refuse ending where the Reapers win and all advanced civilizations are wiped out. There would be many reasons to flee the Milky Way and go, well anywhere else, in that situation. If the Reapers don't win, there's no reason to be looking for a new home. The whole set up is one helluva a "just in case." On topic: non-PC Ryder acts as PC's stunt double.
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Post by spacev3gan on Sept 10, 2016 5:24:13 GMT
Having siblings in the game is one interesting approach. I would like something a little deeper than what we had in DA2, like having one sibling as the protagonist and the other as a permanent companion (with the possibility of screwing things up at some point).
Well, I won't speculate for now. But I am excited they are taking this approach.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2016 8:12:37 GMT
Walters confirmed that we won't play as both Ryders in the same playthrough in a Twitter I sent him. We'll pick as always the gender at the start of The game. The article mentioning the dual protagonist clearly misunderstood what he said in the interview.
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Post by Catfishers on Sept 10, 2016 9:48:48 GMT
Unless it's the refuse ending where the Reapers win and all advanced civilizations are wiped out. There would be many reasons to flee the Milky Way and go, well anywhere else, in that situation. If the Reapers don't win, there's no reason to be looking for a new home. The whole set up is one helluva a "just in case." Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely.
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Post by straykat on Sept 10, 2016 10:02:04 GMT
Unless it's the refuse ending where the Reapers win and all advanced civilizations are wiped out. There would be many reasons to flee the Milky Way and go, well anywhere else, in that situation. If the Reapers don't win, there's no reason to be looking for a new home. The whole set up is one helluva a "just in case." Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely. Wanting that precaution isn't unrealistic. Actually making technology that travels you millions of light years away, when no one, not even the Reapers, did it for the millions of years they've been around... and your race, which are just like everyone else: scavengers and consumers who stumbled upon Mass Effect decades ago, are now doing the unthinkable. Everyone wants a Plan B. Actually making it happen is another thing. The whole point of the Reapers - cycle after cycle after cycle - is that you're supposed to be completely screwed. As Shep says: "You fight or you die." Sounds like a joke now. It was never an existential threat apparently. I thought Cerberus becoming the Empire was a little funny, but this takes the cake.
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Post by Catfishers on Sept 10, 2016 10:19:08 GMT
Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely. Wanting that precaution isn't unrealistic. Actually making technology that travels you millions of light years away, when no one, not even the Reapers, did it for the millions of years they've been around... and your race, which are just like everyone else: scavengers and consumers who stumbled upon Mass Effect decades ago, are now doing the unthinkable. Everyone wants a Plan B. Actually making it happen is another thing. The whole point of the Reapers - cycle after cycle after cycle - is that you're supposed to be completely screwed. As Shep says: "You fight or you die." Sounds like a joke now. It was never an existential threat apparently. I thought Cerberus becoming the Empire was a little funny, but this takes the cake. Well, you've got me there. But, the motivation is sound and, realistic or not, that does seem the be exactly what we've done. Who knows, maybe it'll be explained in-game where we managed to procure this incredible and heretofore impossible technology.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2016 10:39:49 GMT
Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely. Wanting that precaution isn't unrealistic. Actually making technology that travels you millions of light years away, when no one, not even the Reapers, did it for the millions of years they've been around... and your race, which are just like everyone else: scavengers and consumers who stumbled upon Mass Effect decades ago, are now doing the unthinkable. Everyone wants a Plan B. Actually making it happen is another thing. The whole point of the Reapers - cycle after cycle after cycle - is that you're supposed to be completely screwed. As Shep says: "You fight or you die." Sounds like a joke now. It was never an existential threat apparently. I thought Cerberus becoming the Empire was a little funny, but this takes the cake. I don't see how having a backup plan to prevent the genocide of all the races makes the Reaper less then a threat. The Andromeda project might lead to a future for those species (an uncertain future, since they have no clue what they'll find in Andromeda, or at that point if the Reapers aren't actually there as well), but it doesn't change the fact that around 100 billions of organics will be massacrated in the Milky Way. It's at best a bittersweet ending (they don't know after all the cycle is broken) borderline on the bitter. They still go to Andromeda knowing that their homes, their civilizations, And most of their species will be annihilated. Cerberus becoming the Empire is ridicolous in both the methods and the premise. The Andromeda project isn't ridicolous as a premise, it might (hopefully not, but i prefer to keep my expectations in check) in the methods to achieve it.
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Post by straykat on Sept 10, 2016 10:44:56 GMT
Cerberus becoming the Empire is ridicolous in both the methods and the premise. The Andromeda project isn't ridicolous as a premise, it might (hopefully not, but i prefer to keep my expectations in check) in the methods to achieve it. It's just as bad. And they both came from the mind of Mac Walters. I like a lot of his characters, but I'm not going to go out of my way to defend him. I don't know if I can convince you... you've already got an Andromeda avatar. These shitty DAI like graphics are bad enough to me...which somehow manage to look worse than 7 yr old ME2. I don't even have to mention this plotline.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Sept 10, 2016 11:12:04 GMT
I'm looking forward to rescuing Dad from whatever peril he gets himself into.
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Post by Sifr on Sept 10, 2016 11:31:45 GMT
Did Cerberus become an empire though?
Most of the time in ME3 they were conducting hit and run style raids before anyone knew they were there and could mobilise a response, we never saw their fleet in action until the assault on Chronos Station (which showed the Alliance was easily able to handle them) and they had years to build up their paramilitary division, which we'd already seen existed during the events of ME1.
Cerberus forces were probably far weaker than the Alliance in ME3. The threat however was because the Illusive Man had acquired a ton of knowledge over the years, knew how the Alliance operated and had various agents in their ranks, potential access to any recovered information that Liara failed to properly wipe when she scuttled the Shadow Broker ship, in addition to the element of surprise.
It's doubtful that Cerberus had any intention of holding the Citadel in ME3. As with most acts of terrorism, the goal was probably just to sow chaos and fear among the galactic community by proving that they could hit the Citadel if they wanted to.
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Post by bshep on Sept 10, 2016 11:39:44 GMT
THe graphics are bad? Really? You can't convince anyone because we have no information about the plotline to say anything about it. It's because of this that I have the feeling they fled the Milky Way when the Reaper War was already happening. Because lets face it, almost no one trusted Shepard until after the ending of ME2 when there is hard evidence that the Reapers are coming to the galaxy. So to me it makes more sense that the Ark ships started being constructed between the interval from ME2 to ME3.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 10, 2016 11:45:36 GMT
Unless it's the refuse ending where the Reapers win and all advanced civilizations are wiped out. There would be many reasons to flee the Milky Way and go, well anywhere else, in that situation. If the Reapers don't win, there's no reason to be looking for a new home. The whole set up is one helluva a "just in case." Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely. The trailer shows Earth in good condition instead of seeing fires like in ME3. I would say the ships leave before the events of ME3
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Post by bshep on Sept 10, 2016 12:12:06 GMT
Unless it's the refuse ending where the Reapers win and all advanced civilizations are wiped out. There would be many reasons to flee the Milky Way and go, well anywhere else, in that situation. If the Reapers don't win, there's no reason to be looking for a new home. The whole set up is one helluva a "just in case." Unless we leave before the end of the war, which seems to be what everyone is assuming. It seems like the Ark Project was the backup plan. It doesn't seem all that unrealistic for humanity to take such a precaution, especially since victory against the reapers didn't seem super likely. The trailer shows Earth in good condition instead of seeing fires like in ME3. I would say the ships leave before the events of ME3 As I remember(correct me if i am wrong) it was never said that world was earth.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 10, 2016 12:15:30 GMT
As I remember(correct me if i am wrong) it was never said that world was earth. I've read posts from folks saying they can see the great lakes and other parts of Earth
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 10, 2016 12:21:06 GMT
THe graphics are bad? Really? You can't convince anyone because we have no information about the plotline to say anything about it. It's because of this that I have the feeling they fled the Milky Way when the Reaper War was already happening. Because lets face it, almost no one trusted Shepard until after the ending of ME2 when there is hard evidence that the Reapers are coming to the galaxy. So to me it makes more sense that the Ark ships started being constructed between the interval from ME2 to ME3. More likely I think someone did believe Shepard after the first game without telling them and began this project. They'd see a massive influx of resources after Arrival, but I'd be hard pressed to believe it started then.
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Post by bshep on Sept 10, 2016 12:21:21 GMT
As I remember(correct me if i am wrong) it was never said that world was earth. I've read posts from folks saying they can see the great lakes and other parts of Earth Hmm....I wouldn't trust them too much. People sometimes see what they want to see no matter evidence in contrary. Besides a lot of worlds in the previous games were modeled based on real worlds from our Solar System, so possibility exists Bioware is still doing the same.
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 10, 2016 12:23:48 GMT
As I remember(correct me if i am wrong) it was never said that world was earth. I've read posts from folks saying they can see the great lakes and other parts of Earth I've read those too, but I've looked at the trailer enough times myself to be very skeptical. It could be, but what we see in the trailer is far from definitive.
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