No wonder Andromeda sucks. Because the game formula they copied, The Witcher 3, sucks!

Oh come on man, i was just joking! We both know TW3 sucks! OP knows this too!

ah so that's what you meant. Sorry thought you were referring to something else.

You have to practice your craft as well.

If there is 1 thing to keep mum about on the Internet, its The Witcher 3...

You Know i could actually say the same thing towards people who don't like the game and call out others who do

Or people can just avoid the missions labeled "Task:". It's pretty easy to determine which missions are required to complete the game and which ones are there if you want to explore the world further.

Yeah... In regards to faction quests The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim were the weakest in the last three titles, I can not comment on titles older than The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. In Skyrim you can literally do one or two quests and suddenly it is decided you are worthy of learning the dark secret of the Companion's council. You can become the Arch-Mage of the Mage's Guild with a full fledged fighter. You do not even need to cast a spell to be allowed entrance in the college, just use a shout. The only factions in the base game that are even close to being polished are the Dark Brotherhood and The Thieves Guild which I suspect that is only because they were they most liked in the previous title The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion which treated each faction quest-line with care and developed them as their own standalone story-lines. Even Morrowind did it better than Skyrim and each rank demanded that your character met a statistic requirement before advancing. Bethesda took a huge leap back. 

The story telling has progressively become weaker from Morrowind. Weapon and spell selection has been trimmed down and streamlined, spell crafting... gone. And combat... still 'floaty', weightless. Every character looks like they just started swinging a sword for the first time, even supposed veterans. Finisher animations rarely line up properly and end up looking ridiculous. Like "oh, I will grab the air around this lunging and love tap the air on his other side with my sword, yeah, that will end him rightly!" And the A.I... Without a mod of some kind it is just down right pitiful, even Call of Duty bots are smarter. "Hey, Bob just fell over and there is an arrow in his neck. Must have been the wind. Nevermind that arrow, or that we are in this tunnel, or this person standing in front of me in this narrow hallway. They don't exist, nope! Just my imagination." 

But hey, let us praise our lord and savior Todd Howard and defecate on a much smaller company with not even a fraction of the history or experience that Bethesda / Zenimax can boast like CD Projekt Red who despite all odds, even being told by the author of the book series that they were gonna fail and make no profit, came out with a trilogy that sold and has taken more steps forward then back as each title came out. 

I mean, if folks here find their latest release to absolute trash and unacceptable then I should be seeing a news feed on Facebook regarding a angry mob outside Bioware and Bethesda waving pitchforks and torches. 

Just look at the two "hilarious bug" videos I put up and the difference in attitude from the same group (Gameranx) over the same sort of bugs present in the two games.  The bias against Bioware becomes immediately evident.  TW3 is all just awesomely funny... ME:A on the other hand "is a mess" in their words.  There's "presentation and details" for you.

One other reason I quit TW3 is that I was getting increasingly weirder issues with my saves.  The game was starting to lag a lot (screen going blurry every time I selected a line of dialogue and the next line taking an increasingly longer time to load).  I cleared by Xbox One cache and that helped for a bit.  Still, the last save I did actually showed a save date and time in the future (and my Xbox One clock was reading correctly for both date and time as set via its internet connection).  You never hear such things mentioned when people discuss TW3... you only hear how good it is.

It has issues... it's not perfect... and it is a very, very extremely long game.  Too long for ME's style of story.

i d take a SP game over a Mp game anytime.
Compared to Horizon zero dawn a game which sold millions, got great reviews across the press and gamers and i really really enjoyed ,so far andromeda feels way better.
I wont even begin on Jrpg and japanese games like Nier (finished it, a 15 yo game) or Nier.
Ubisoft titles are shallow and repetitive so scratch these.
witcher3 comes to kind and people love dickriding that game . Wicther3 is top tier indeed.
Bethesda games come next in which if you hate Andromeda for bugs and animations then oh boy! you are in for a treat.
Rockstar games. Hmmmm, no . RDR their best game had half the decent characters than any bioware game. GtAV i wnt even mention. i am 36.
The divinity original sin game a game where i wanted to smash the disk for its love for archaic mechanincs like:
constant micromoanagemt, each one has his own inventory, No heal after combat, long ass turn based combat. SILLY and lighthearted atmosphere, (Hmm lighthearted is a common argument against andromeda in here, lets see if the same people like Divinity)
And thats about it for games. i dont play on Pc , mind you.
There you have it:

    i like andromeda. A lot. i loved the trilogy, i dont want a remaster and i dont wear special nosltagia goggles:
Andromeda bests on Me1 on every aspect. 

If only... I'm avoiding 99% of all Tasks and still feel like rage quitting every time I want to do a "normal" quest because the quest design is the most infuriating, insulting waste of my time I have ever come across. Most quests are about finding and scanning stuff all over the map and several planets. And I can't even do loyalty missions until I've wasted a bazillion hours doing all the mind-numbing steps. Everything is always ON HOLD, I'm so very fed up with this game after 70h...

Bioware Montreal is either completely incompetent or this is a very insidious padding tactic because if you take all the planet hopping and revisiting the tempest for no reason out of the game, you'd be done very quickly with this game.

Most quests are so boring, I get angry for wasting my time A LOT. One of the worst offenders is the drive core hunt. "Oops, the core is not here anymore. It was but a minute ago. Keep chasing it." This shit isn't fun. It's an insult, a fucking joke. A sorry excuse to make people drive all over these deserted boring planets.

I went from initial shock to acceptance... then briefly enjoying the game on Eos to now pretty much hating Montreal for this gameplay fuckery.

I go to Kadara for a one minute conversation with Peebee for her eventual LM. Now it's on hold. Now I'm supposed to go to Elaaden. But on the Tempest I am told Vetra wants to see me on Kadara WHERE I JUST GOT BACK FROM. No, I did not get this email before when I was still on the Tempest before going to Kadara. Either the triggers are all fucked up or this is on purpose to make people revisit planets over and over and over again. Just for a short conversation.

Why do I even have to take vidcom shit on the Tempest while my crewmates can chirp stuff over the comm while I'm out running through the desert? I lost track of the number of times I did something on a planet only to be asked to go back tehre the second I'm back on the Tempest.

I cannot understand how this is fun to anybody. CDPR does not treat their players like that. In fact, no other developer ever led me around in circles like that for even the smallest most boring quests.

*ragemode off*

That's too bad you experienced bugs and weird save issues.  Those were non-existent for me on PC with TW3, but I can certainly see how that would impact your viewpoint.

For example, because I experienced virtually no bugs with TW3 on PC, and experienced several with ME:A, my experience suggests ME:A was not as clean of a game.  I also spent a considerable amount of time on the CDPR forums after TW3 was released (as I have also done on here since ME:A was released).  I've personally seen more bugs and bug complaints unique to ME:A than I ever did with TW3.  I've also seen more articles about ME:A's issues than I have TW3.  I have no reason to believe that this is bias-driven analysis.  I just don't think ME:A is as good of a game, overall.

Honestly, though, is that really so bad?  This whole conversation reminds me of how some people in the movie industry think Rotten Tomatoes is the downfall of modern cinema.  People see a movie and will leave bad reviews, thus assisting in poor box office performances.  But, that's a silly excuse.  People giving their opinion isn't the problem - people making bad movies is the problem.

(I'm not saying ME:A is a bad game, to be clear.)

Weird thread.

I thought it was obvious that MEA was "inspired" by DAI.

The same big, good looking maps that play like MMO combat zones.
Inquisition perks became cryo points.
Outposts became forward stations.
War table missions became strike teams.
Power kinda became viability.

And yet this goes on for over 20 pages.