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Post by SeranusGaming on May 24, 2017 12:45:55 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right?
Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed.
That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder.
As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise.
All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them.
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Post by pdusen on May 24, 2017 12:48:33 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right? Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed. That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder. As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise. All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them. For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. We saw evidence of that as much as a year before the game even released. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. |
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Post by SeranusGaming on May 24, 2017 12:50:46 GMT
For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. Well, here is to hoping that BioWare continues the franchise and adds more story DLC to the game and perhaps, ME:A2. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 12:53:38 GMT
Yup. Hatin on BioWare games is some ppl's favourite hobby.  But then I'm only now playing Dishonored 2 as the reviews put me off. Loving every second and it runs well, so the lesson for me is 'all reviews are bullshit' I guess. Read the good and the bad then expect something half way between. |
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Post by abaris on May 24, 2017 12:54:51 GMT
I'd say it depends on wether you usually like certain reviewers because their tastes mostly mirror your own tastes. I never was wrong listening to Angry Joe, for example and I was largely in line with his review. Which he did before the patches came out.
Lstening to any wayward youtuber certainly doesn't cut it, since even if they don't home in on one feature or the other, chances are, you don't like their tastes in gaming.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 24, 2017 12:55:20 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right? Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed. That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder. As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise. All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them. For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. We saw evidence of that as much as a year before the game even released. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. Ehh, I think the internet killing it is reaching. Quite simply you have to piss of the fan base to put down a franchise, not that I even think ME was put down, they're simply focusing on other projects and will most likely be back on ME around 2021+. @op: reviews are there just to inform, not make decisions for you. So it's good you finally gave it a go and found out you enjoy it (I'm the opposite in a sense). |
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Post by pdusen on May 24, 2017 13:00:48 GMT
For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. We saw evidence of that as much as a year before the game even released. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. Ehh, I think the internet killing it is reaching. Quite simply you have to piss of the fan base to put down a franchise, not that I even think ME was put down, they're simply focusing on other projects and will most likely be back on ME around 2021+. @op: reviews are there just to inform, not make decisions for you. So it's good you finally gave it a go and found out you enjoy it (I'm the opposite in a sense). Truth be told, I don't think EA has really decided whether or not to continue ME yet. DLC sales are probably going to be the deciding factor. But it's a possibility that we need to consider now. |
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Post by malgus on May 24, 2017 13:07:25 GMT
Yup. Hatin on BioWare games is some ppl's favourite hobby. But then I'm only now playing Dishonored 2 as the reviews put me off. Loving every second and it runs well, so the lesson for me is 'all reviews are bullshit' I guess. Read the good and the bad then expect something half way between. MEA had so many thing going against it, it had the controversy of manveer heir, the sjw conspiracy, the ME 3 ending, it also needed to live up to the ME trilogy. Any youtube comments section was a toxic wasteland. But once pew die pie made his video about it, the clickbait started around bashing andromeda. Reminder : I am not speaking about the people who actually play the game and explain why they disliked it and made constructive criticsm about it, I am speaking about the one who just judged the game based on the meme and said it was shit based on bad facial animation alone. The game itself is far from being perfect and true it should have been delayed to fix animation and bugs, but the bashing around it has been way over the top. |
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 24, 2017 13:20:05 GMT
I take reviews with a grain of salt. Hell, PC Gamer gave that shitty Duke Nuke'em forever an 80!
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 24, 2017 13:38:19 GMT
Yup. Hatin on BioWare games is some ppl's favourite hobby. But then I'm only now playing Dishonored 2 as the reviews put me off. Loving every second and it runs well, so the lesson for me is 'all reviews are bullshit' I guess. Read the good and the bad then expect something half way between. Reminder : I am not speaking about the people who actually play the game and explain why they disliked it and made constructive criticsm about it, I am speaking about the one who just judged the game based on the meme and said it was shit based on bad facial animation alone. The game itself is far from being perfect and true it should have been delayed to fix animation and bugs, but the bashing around it has been way over the top. Even before the game was released, I know of at least one YouTuber, Rageaholic (Razorfist) wanted to boycott BioWare over Manveer Heir. Then Gaming Wildlife put out their video on BioWare's destiny to fail. There were quite a bit more videos that had already stated their reservations about Andromeda because EA's brilliant PR and Marketing division did nothing to curb this growing discontent. They chose to ignore it and I don't have to say anymore about its release. It was a f***ing buffet served by EA's lousy marketing to all the haters and competitors that want to take BioWare down. I still can't get over how PAX South went down with so many little sh**s talking big sh** about BioWare now. It wasn't like it was done out of jealousy, but just pure disdain of what is BioWare now. |
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 24, 2017 13:46:00 GMT
Ehh, I think the internet killing it is reaching. Quite simply you have to piss of the fan base to put down a franchise, not that I even think ME was put down, they're simply focusing on other projects and will most likely be back on ME around 2021+. @op: reviews are there just to inform, not make decisions for you. So it's good you finally gave it a go and found out you enjoy it (I'm the opposite in a sense). Truth be told, I don't think EA has really decided whether or not to continue ME yet. DLC sales are probably going to be the deciding factor. But it's a possibility that we need to consider now. They could or they could not. One thing to take notice of is EA has expanded on bioware, Montreal is a brand new studio, there's rumor they're starting up another in Vancouver and then you have Austin and Edmonton already setup. Simply put: they're wanting to crank out a lot of games in a short time or they could take the CoD approach where three studios work on one game (it's why CoD has games releasing every single year, cause they put a lot of man power into them). its possible they could shut down mass effect however EA has stated they're still happy with it and have high expectations. So I could see them at least giving it another go but after DA4 and the Dylan project has launched. |
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Post by jasonpogo on May 24, 2017 13:46:25 GMT
Yeah it really is a shame. While not a masterpiece MEA is a fun game. There are millions of people out there that would like the game just fine but will never bother thanks to the backlash.
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Post by Serza on May 24, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
Yup. Hatin on BioWare games is some ppl's favourite hobby. But then I'm only now playing Dishonored 2 as the reviews put me off. Loving every second and it runs well, so the lesson for me is 'all reviews are bullshit' I guess. Read the good and the bad then expect something half way between. MEA had so many thing going against it, it had the controversy of manveer heir, the sjw conspiracy, the ME 3 ending, it also needed to live up to the ME trilogy. Any youtube comments section was a toxic wasteland. But once pew die pie made his video about it, the clickbait started around bashing andromeda. Reminder : I am not speaking about the people who actually play the game and explain why they disliked it and made constructive criticsm about it, I am speaking about the one who just judged the game based on the meme and said it was shit based on bad facial animation alone. The game itself is far from being perfect and true it should have been delayed to fix animation and bugs, but the bashing around it has been way over the top. Are you saying it's because of that.... person this whole thing started? |
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Post by vomder on May 24, 2017 14:17:51 GMT
No, this game deserves all the criticisms it got.
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Post by azarhal on May 24, 2017 14:18:37 GMT
How come the internet didn't hurt other games? Why didn't people shit on the new Zelda or Horizon Zero Dawn? Damn this evil internet must have something against Bioware... One reviewer gave a 70% to Zelda, he received death threat for it. Makes you wonder why the majority of the reviewers gave it a 10/10... |
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Post by R1Outcast on May 24, 2017 14:25:25 GMT
I've enjoyed my three playthroughs. Seems like the internet was hell-bent on making it seem like ME:A was the worse game ever, and many reviewers jumped on the bandwagon. I'm not saying it's perfect in every way...but it's far from a bad game.
Hopefully with time, more people will give it a try instead of listening to the hive-mind bandwagoners who echo popular opinions.
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Post by gplayer on May 24, 2017 14:31:50 GMT
I am not a fan of reviews. In think there is some inherent, indirect corruption in video game journalism. I believe a lot of these reviewers will appease conglomerates like EA because they want access - first looks at up coming content, previews and reviews before the game is released, and gaming rigs that companies will give them to play on. Some of these people will disclose that the rig they played on was a gift from the publisher, but not everyone does. So I did not read the reviews because I do trust reviewers. The Diana Allers situation in ME3 and calling BW customers spoiled brats that will never be satisfied only reinforced this mistrust.
That said, when I got the game I was on cloud 9 for the first week. But in hindsight I know that this was driven by my nostalgia and not having played an ME game for 5 years. By the third week, and 217 hours of game play, I could not stand the game anymore and did not touch it since then. I then checked out some of the reviews that people linked here and I thought they were too kind. Maybe I should be happy with the 217 hours of gameplay I got, but compare that to 600+ hours of ME2. Anyways, I am happy people are thrilled with the game, but check in on your third playthrough and tell us if its still fun or if the reviewers had a point.
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Post by R1Outcast on May 24, 2017 14:34:03 GMT
Yes, it's the internet fault. All those thousands upon thousands of players who BOUGHT the game and reported game breaking bugs, horrible performance, missing party banter and the list goes on and on. All of us are part of a dark conspiracy targetted at Mass Effect Andromeda to make it look bad and fail. Yeah... /sarcasm How come the internet didn't hurt other games? Why didn't people shit on the new Zelda or Horizon Zero Dawn? Damn this evil internet must have something against Bioware... It's one thing to point out a game's flaws in hopes that the developers will fix them. Bethesda games are notorious for this. However, it's an entirely different issue when everyone and their mother is on some kind of crusade to make it seem like ME:A is the worst thing ever to happen to gaming. Constructive criticisms are fine, but the volumes of hate ME:A received were unwarranted. Like I've said before: it's not a perfect game...but it's definitely not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 14:36:15 GMT
Eh... I never doubt a BW game and always pre-order. Reviewers and I have never seen eye-to-eye on anything, so the more bad reviews, the more chances I'll love the game. Never fails. Still have yet to be disappointed in a game by them. By playthrough 6 I was still finding new things. I doubt I'll ever tire of this game.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 24, 2017 14:53:53 GMT
Yes, it's the internet fault. All those thousands upon thousands of players who BOUGHT the game and reported game breaking bugs, horrible performance, missing party banter and the list goes on and on. All of us are part of a dark conspiracy targetted at Mass Effect Andromeda to make it look bad and fail. Yeah... /sarcasm How come the internet didn't hurt other games? Why didn't people shit on the new Zelda or Horizon Zero Dawn? Damn this evil internet must have something against Bioware... It's one thing to point out a game's flaws in hopes that the developers will fix them. Bethesda games are notorious for this. However, it's an entirely different issue when everyone and their mother is on some kind of crusade to make it seem like ME:A is the worst thing ever to happen to gaming. Constructive criticisms are fine, but the volumes of hate ME:A received were unwarranted. Like I've said before: it's not a perfect game...but it's definitely not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. What classifies as "unwarranted hate"? |
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Post by Gyer on May 24, 2017 15:14:13 GMT
The internet was not determined to hate this game from the very beginning, nor did it kill ME. Bioware did that all on its own.
I never read the reviews when I bought MEA, coz I loved the franchise so was always going to buy it. Heck, the fuss made about the ending in ME3 didn't really bother me that much either. But soon as I began playing MEA, I knew Bioware had dropped the ball, big time. Before you even start the game, customising your character, you are presented with paltry options that make it impossible to make a character even remotely attractive. then once the game starts, you cannot help laugh or cry at the fact that the lip syncing is COMPLETELY OFF. In most games that wouldn't be an issue, but for a character based game such as MEA where a lot of time is spent talking, this is simply not good enough for a supposedly AAA title. I know Bioware later patched this, but the fact that they launched the game like this is pretty shocking. First impressions count, and those first impressions completely ruined the experience for me. I stopped playing, and haven't looked back - if Bioware don't care about the game enough that they are happy to release it in that state, then i couldn't care less about the game either...
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by R'Shara on May 24, 2017 15:29:34 GMT
After 3 patches, the game is in a much better state than it was in at launch. In addition, much of the cringe-worthy dialogue is later in the game, when you have the options of being a doormat or a dick. A lot of the dialogue was also initially hidden due to a bug. Wait till you get to Liam's melt down or the first time you can't Extract to Tempest  |
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cypherj
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by cypherj on May 24, 2017 15:43:49 GMT
It's a YMMV situation. I had bad bugs and technical issues from the start to the point the game actually wasn't fun to play. On more than one occasion I actually just said the hell with this and rage quit the game. Some people have had more luck and had virtually bug free games.
A lot of the things are love/hate. Some people like the more laid back attitude of the game and therefore the protagonist and some wanted a different tone to the game, and didn't like the protagonist.
That's why I don't really read reviews. I have two friends that I trust their word on anything from movies and video games to restaurants. If they tell me to stay away from something I usually do, and vice versa.
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R1Outcast
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by R1Outcast on May 24, 2017 16:03:06 GMT
It's one thing to point out a game's flaws in hopes that the developers will fix them. Bethesda games are notorious for this. However, it's an entirely different issue when everyone and their mother is on some kind of crusade to make it seem like ME:A is the worst thing ever to happen to gaming. Constructive criticisms are fine, but the volumes of hate ME:A received were unwarranted. Like I've said before: it's not a perfect game...but it's definitely not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. What classifies as "unwarranted hate"? I literally described what I meant in the sentences before and after the sentence where I mentioned "unwarranted hate". In the first paragraph I said " it's an entirely different issue when everyone and their mother is on some kind of crusade to make it seem like ME:A is the worst thing ever to happen to gaming"; in second paragraph I said " it's not a perfect game...but it's definitely not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination". Reviewers making ME:A out to be some kind of gaming abomination...is unwarranted. Was it a game that could use a few updates and fixes? Sure. Was it a bad game? Not at all. It became popular to hate on Bioware (I suspect one of Bioware's former employees sparked the internet's Bioware hate), and tons of people jumped on the bandwagon to point out every flaw, ignoring any positives. |
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