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Post by dm04 on May 25, 2017 9:57:38 GMT
you bring up review scores to defend your argument. How mea got deserved criticism and how the game is a bad game. Well the last time i checked the combined scores on metacritic was hanging around 75. In my book that's good and in most people's books as well. Maybe not stellar. But you really can't say 'mea is a crap game just b look at the reviews' when the reviews don't support the argument. No, I am asking you to define "bad". To me, bad is below average (4+5/10) and above absolute utter BS (1/10), and yes there are games like that. ANd I am not rated because of some reviews, I do not care whether the majority of the reviews see MEA as great (9-10/10) or garbage (0-1/10)... always funny to see a 0 when someone uses a scale of 1-10... I base "my" review on what I played, and yes intent to play more IF more, and meaningful, patches hit the game. - I am NOT talking about the writing (story, pacing, tone, dialogue, characters), as this is highly subjective (and this inclused stuff like Saras face expression when she talks about her dead dad, she is "smiling" the "haters" say, so what? That is not smile, that is her face, there are people with positive attitude and a mouth shaped like this, so they appear to be always smiling, with neutral emotions, yes it would look like a smile but it is not, and in a situation like this, I would be neutral too and not emotionaly devastated as some people would like to have.) - I am NOT talking about art design (kett, archon, angara, all ai using terran tech design, planet visuals etc), as this is highly subjective - I am NOT talking about music, as this is also highly subjective I see MEA as "bad" because of MEASURABLE things, that everyone can see and understand, if this person open his/her eyes and mind and stop protecting for the sake of protecting. - The environment graphis are good, but not as good as they could be (thanks to frostbite they could be much better) - The facial expressions are terrible for an AAA game (fixed to some degree with patches, but not entirely) - The aimations are terrible for an AAA game (fixed to some degree with patches, but entirely) - The sounds are... non existant, MEA is dead silent, Nomad sound is good, so weapons, and thats about it... this is below AAA standard - The skeleton models for non-humans are extremely terrible and much worse then MEOT, there is a thread about this here on the board, just look for it to understand what I mean - Just one model (head and body) for everyone (at least humans have different heads), that is below AAA standard - There is not one fully developed and polished feature, if so, name one (like inventory, combat, crafting, merchants, asp, saving)... eh wai, I thin the strike teams work fine, there is nothing I would do about it. So forgive me, I made a mistake here, time to dismiss all my claims and my whole post because of it. And thats it... the pro MEA lobby makes the very same things like the contra folks, they listen and once they heard the first wrong argument, everything else is rejected and denied and dismissed as BS. People gota wake up, because of all the measurable problems, one can not rate MEA as perfect or great or good. Like no game is ever perfect, so MEA can not be rated 10/10 no matter how much someone wishes to, and since it is playable, one can not rate the game 1/10 as much as someone wishes to. So, based on the subjective stuff MEA is 7-9/10 and then we start to remove points for the objective stuff. And based on how much we value this, the game ends up with 3-5/10. Anything else sends just the wrong message to the devs. This is true for EA, this is true for BW and this is true for everyone else like Bethesda or Ubsoft or Blizzard or X, and the reason we do not see much bashing of that companies here is... well BSN forums dedicated to ME, so go figure. |
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Post by colfoley on May 25, 2017 10:13:43 GMT
you bring up review scores to defend your argument. How mea got deserved criticism and how the game is a bad game. Well the last time i checked the combined scores on metacritic was hanging around 75. In my book that's good and in most people's books as well. Maybe not stellar. But you really can't say 'mea is a crap game just b look at the reviews' when the reviews don't support the argument. No, I am asking you to define "bad". To me, bad is below average (4+5/10) and above absolute utter BS (1/10), and yes there are games like that. ANd I am not rated because of some reviews, I do not care whether the majority of the reviews see MEA as great (9-10/10) or garbage (0-1/10)... always funny to see a 0 when someone uses a scale of 1-10... I base "my" review on what I played, and yes intent to play more IF more, and meaningful, patches hit the game. - I am NOT talking about the writing (story, pacing, tone, dialogue, characters), as this is highly subjective (and this inclused stuff like Saras face expression when she talks about her dead dad, she is "smiling" the "haters" say, so what? That is not smile, that is her face, there are people with positive attitude and a mouth shaped like this, so they appear to be always smiling, with neutral emotions, yes it would look like a smile but it is not, and in a situation like this, I would be neutral too and not emotionaly devastated as some people would like to have.) - I am NOT talking about art design (kett, archon, angara, all ai using terran tech design, planet visuals etc), as this is highly subjective - I am NOT talking about music, as this is also highly subjective I see MEA as "bad" because of MEASURABLE things, that everyone can see and understand, if this person open his/her eyes and mind and stop protecting for the sake of protecting. - The environment graphis are good, but not as good as they could be (thanks to frostbite they could be much better) - The facial expressions are terrible for an AAA game (fixed to some degree with patches, but not entirely) - The aimations are terrible for an AAA game (fixed to some degree with patches, but entirely) - The sounds are... non existant, MEA is dead silent, Nomad sound is good, so weapons, and thats about it... this is below AAA standard - The skeleton models for non-humans are extremely terrible and much worse then MEOT, there is a thread about this here on the board, just look for it to understand what I mean - Just one model (head and body) for everyone (at least humans have different heads), that is below AAA standard - There is not one fully developed and polished feature, if so, name one (like inventory, combat, crafting, merchants, asp, saving)... eh wai, I thin the strike teams work fine, there is nothing I would do about it. So forgive me, I made a mistake here, time to dismiss all my claims and my whole post because of it. And thats it... the pro MEA lobby makes the very same things like the contra folks, they listen and once they heard the first wrong argument, everything else is rejected and denied and dismissed as BS. People gota wake up, because of all the measurable problems, one can not rate MEA as perfect or great or good. Like no game is ever perfect, so MEA can not be rated 10/10 no matter how much someone wishes to, and since it is playable, one can not rate the game 1/10 as much as someone wishes to. So, based on the subjective stuff MEA is 7-9/10 and then we start to remove points for the objective stuff. And based on how much we value this, the game ends up with 3-5/10. Anything else sends just the wrong message to the devs. This is true for EA, this is true for BW and this is true for everyone else like Bethesda or Ubsoft or Blizzard or X, and the reason we do not see much bashing of that companies here is... well BSN forums dedicated to ME, so go figure. i seem to have struck a nerve... And the Main problem is with your post, for all its length and eloquence and good points, is i don't care about the things that you find objective...at least not as much as the things you find subjective. And that's the point. People are going to get different mileage based on different things. Like a whole grade can be given or taken based on something like character writing, so if MEA had shit writing itd be a eight, it'd have great writing it'd be a nine. But I stopped caring about graphics years ago. I stopped caring about bugs, unless they are major ones...which MEA has...and I've acknowledged...years ago. And despite the bugs, which are kind of like nails on a chalkboard, i am still enjoying the crap out of the game. The takeaway is different things matter differently to different people. If you value bugs and polish it's fair to judge MEA harshly. But for those who don't we'll give MEA a better grade because at least for me bw is on the leading edge of story, Character, gameplay, and rp elements. And at least for me the only game out this generation that has come close to challenging them is TW3. |
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Post by abaris on May 25, 2017 10:23:09 GMT
The takeaway is different things matter differently to different people. If you value bugs and polish it's fair to judge MEA harshly. But for those who don't we'll give MEA a better grade because at least for me bw is on the leading edge of story, Character, gameplay, and rp elements. And at least for me the only game out this generation that has come close to challenging them is TW3. And since I already played the game, you making these points in a review, wouldn't be taken seriously by me, since we clearly have different expectations and tastes. That's why I keep stressing that tastes in gaming being in accordance between reviewer and player are crucial when watching or reading them. I watched the Angry Joe review before buying. And since he almost always is in line with my own opinions, I felt save buying it based on the fact that I would be able to overlook the game's shortcomings, and most of all, knowing what I was in for. |
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Post by malgus on May 25, 2017 10:48:15 GMT
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It all depends on wheter or not the "objective flaws" influence the experience, for some it does, for others it does not. For exemple the facial animation do they take away from my game? no they did not, not completely, first of all the bad animation only affects the human and asari because they are humanoid.
For the aliens, since they have different facial structure, it is always difficult to tell which emotion they have because its different than humans. the same way it is difficult to tell if an animal is angry or happy just by loooking at his face, sometime he can be angry you would not know about it. But with humans we know what angry or happy face looks like so for them, bad animation can take away from the experience. But with other characters its an other story and considering half the characters are neither human or asari, well the notion is more complex.
Does the "not as good envinronments" destroy the experience? absolutely not for me. Actually do I want BW to wastes tons of ressources in just beautiful envinronments? no I don't want BW to invest this much in that. I am all right with the envinronments they have created right now, I would rather have more ressources invested elsewhere.
And the one body model, that has always existed for pretty much all of the trilogy, in ME 3 the woman body type was reused and I don't see why they should suddenly invest that much ressources in creating different body types unless there is something important in that. Its a huge investment and it never toke away from the trilogy previous experience, same for envinronments, I would rather get something else rather than different bodies.
By the way just saying its below aaa standards, bring me an exemple of a game that has thousands of important different characters that use tons of body types. Witcher 3 reuse the same faces tons of times for tons of characters and does that make it a bad game?
Yes MEA is silent, so what? There are tons of movies and games that use silence in good ways, now true I think the music was lacking in MEA but again it did not destroy the experience for me, and the sound effects were good. Yes I encontered bugs, but it never was unplayable, it was perfectly playable and I had a ton of fun.
It all depends on how much value you give to certain aspects. Some people says that gameplay is the only thing that matters in a video game, other thinks story is more important. It depens on what they prefer, what they give importance to.
Bad facial animation, bugs, silent ambiance, could be considered objective flaws. But the question is "how much does it affects the experience"? And that is a question everybody has to find for himself, and there is no final answer or objective score about it. So no I am not going to "wake up" to your 5 out of 10 maximum for MEA, you give some elements more importance than many people do, and nobody has to think that facial animation, envinronments, sound ambiance are this important, nor they do have to think that it overshadows the positive elements.
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Post by correctamundo on May 25, 2017 11:04:28 GMT
Yes MEA is silent, so what? There are tons of movies and games that use silence in good ways, now true I think the music was lacking in MEA but again it did not destroy the experience for me, and the sound effects were good. Yes I encontered bugs, but it never was unplayable, it was perfectly playable and I had a ton of fun. Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC!  |
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Post by malgus on May 25, 2017 11:06:47 GMT
Yes MEA is silent, so what? There are tons of movies and games that use silence in good ways, now true I think the music was lacking in MEA but again it did not destroy the experience for me, and the sound effects were good. Yes I encontered bugs, but it never was unplayable, it was perfectly playable and I had a ton of fun. Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC! True |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 25, 2017 11:09:54 GMT
Yes MEA is silent, so what? There are tons of movies and games that use silence in good ways, now true I think the music was lacking in MEA but again it did not destroy the experience for me, and the sound effects were good. Yes I encontered bugs, but it never was unplayable, it was perfectly playable and I had a ton of fun. Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC! I get music too. Music I like, actually. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 11:31:38 GMT
I just find it boring. It's just so damn boring.
The dialogue is akin to a kindergarden student. The GFX are unforgivably broken. The soundtrack is very very poor. The Facial Animations are WORSE the ME1s.
We've come a long way and we get a buggy broken game at release with gfx problems and crappy dialogue. Now forgive me for complaining when i've spunked up some of my hard earned cash on this shite. The BIoderp fanbois can all huddle in a corner and glop over this unfinished garbage while the rest of us play games like Horizon Zero Dawn and the like that have no issues and better story/dialogue.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 25, 2017 11:37:45 GMT
I just find it boring. It's just so damn boring. The dialogue is akin to a kindergarden student. The GFX are unforgivably broken. The soundtrack is very very poor. The Facial Animations are WORSE the ME1s. We've come a long way and we get a buggy broken game at release with gfx problems and crappy dialogue. Now forgive me for complaining when i've spunked up some of my hard earned cash on this shite. The BIoderp fanbois can all huddle in a corner and glop over this unfinished garbage while the rest of us play games like Horizon Zero Dawn and the like that have no issues and better story/dialogue. I'm replaying Horizon now and love it again. It's a 9 for me, but MEA is still an 8.5 -8.7 |
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Post by cypherj on May 25, 2017 11:38:24 GMT
Yes MEA is silent, so what? There are tons of movies and games that use silence in good ways, now true I think the music was lacking in MEA but again it did not destroy the experience for me, and the sound effects were good. Yes I encontered bugs, but it never was unplayable, it was perfectly playable and I had a ton of fun. Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC! I didn't hear hardly any music when I played the game. Even in the videos I recorded there's nothing. Sometimes it would try to start up during battles, it would be faint and then end right after the battle ended. Can't remember any ambient music at all. Someone posted a video about the making of the music for Andromeda and I was hearing it all for the first time. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 25, 2017 11:40:01 GMT
Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC! I get music too. Music I like, actually. Same here. The ambient music on some of the planets, missions, and while fighting is really good. I would like music on the Nexus but it's not essential |
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Post by qwib on May 25, 2017 11:51:31 GMT
The takeaway is different things matter differently to different people. If you value bugs and polish it's fair to judge MEA harshly. But for those who don't we'll give MEA a better grade because at least for me bw is on the leading edge of story, Character, gameplay, and rp elements. And at least for me the only game out this generation that has come close to challenging them is TW3. And since I already played the game, you making these points in a review, wouldn't be taken seriously by me, since we clearly have different expectations and tastes. That's why I keep stressing that tastes in gaming being in accordance between reviewer and player are crucial when watching or reading them. I watched the Angry Joe review before buying. And since he almost always is in line with my own opinions, I felt save buying it based on the fact that I would be able to overlook the game's shortcomings, and most of all, knowing what I was in for. Yeah, you simply have to find the reviewer that understands what you are looking for in a game. And very important part is to READ what the reviewer writes or listen to what they have to say. It is simply not enough to go to a side and look at scores, if you don't know WHY and HOW it was scored that way. If it were up to me, journalists should get rid of Scoring System. People have to read why something was scored that way. And if you feel like the bad things about a game don't really matter to you, you are in for a treat, even if the score would have been a 7. If you feel that the positive things about a game are not what you are looking for, you will be dissapointed by highly acclaimed games. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 25, 2017 11:54:48 GMT
Is it really silent though? I have music, ambient sound, banter etc all the time. Is my game bugged to have music or is it something else? I find it very odd that people say it's silent and then I jump in and MUSIC! I didn't hear hardly any music when I played the game. Even in the videos I recorded there's nothing. Sometimes it would try to start up during battles, it would be faint and then end right after the battle ended. Can't remember any ambient music at all. Someone posted a video about the making of the music for Andromeda and I was hearing it all for the first time. There's an options menu, adjust your sounds. The music is there and it's good. My Sfx is at 60% and music is at 100% |
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Post by phantomrachie on May 25, 2017 12:01:47 GMT
I just find it boring. It's just so damn boring. The dialogue is akin to a kindergarden student. The GFX are unforgivably broken. The soundtrack is very very poor. The Facial Animations are WORSE the ME1s. We've come a long way and we get a buggy broken game at release with gfx problems and crappy dialogue. Now forgive me for complaining when i've spunked up some of my hard earned cash on this shite. The BIoderp fanbois can all huddle in a corner and glop over this unfinished garbage while the rest of us play games like Horizon Zero Dawn and the like that have no issues and better story/dialogue. When was the last time you played ME1? because your comment on facial animations is not true. And while I am really enjoying Horizon, it is full of weird facial animations, slightly off lip sinking and it's fair share of cheesy lines. There is no need to lie about stuff in other games just to justify not liking MEA. It's ok that you don't like it, just like it is ok that I did. |
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Post by cypherj on May 25, 2017 12:01:56 GMT
I didn't hear hardly any music when I played the game. Even in the videos I recorded there's nothing. Sometimes it would try to start up during battles, it would be faint and then end right after the battle ended. Can't remember any ambient music at all. Someone posted a video about the making of the music for Andromeda and I was hearing it all for the first time. There's an options menu, adjust your sounds. The music is there and it's good. My Sfx is at 60% and music is at 100% I tried turning the sound effects off once, it's just wasn't there. I don't know if it was bugged or what. I was watching this video and they were talking about how there was different music in and out of battle, how there was different music if you were in stealth, and showing examples, and I was literally just sitting there thinking I haven't heard any of this. It was shocking really. |
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They don't take bribes or anything. DAI was an amazing game by the time it came out, sure if it was released today it would've had the same reaction as MEA. There is a reason why Bioware decided to launch DAI before the release of TW3 because everyone knew it would be the gold standart. Nonetheless it surpassed Shadow of Mordor and became GOTY you can't do it with bribes Your welcome to your opinion. If there is one thing Bioware get right, it's hype, but hype didn't cut it with Andromeda, as most knew what they would be getting after their experience with Inquisition, and this time, decided to call a halt to the misguided direction Bioware was taking. Providing that in my personal opinion Inquisition is worse than any RPG game I played that were released between 1998 and 2014, save for a couple titles that were so graphically painful, I could not bring myself to play them, I am completely at a loss why people even like this game, let alone the GOTY or golden standard claims. At least I sort of get it why certain people might like the W3, but Inquisition... just no redeeming qualities save for a well-made giant species. andromeda though, well, blows both out of the water and then out of the air for me.... it is a nearly perfect game in my books. |
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Post by correctamundo on May 25, 2017 12:33:22 GMT
I just find it boring. It's just so damn boring. The dialogue is akin to a kindergarden student. The GFX are unforgivably broken. The soundtrack is very very poor. The Facial Animations are WORSE the ME1s. We've come a long way and we get a buggy broken game at release with gfx problems and crappy dialogue. Now forgive me for complaining when i've spunked up some of my hard earned cash on this shite. The BIoderp fanbois can all huddle in a corner and glop over this unfinished garbage while the rest of us play games like Horizon Zero Dawn and the like that have no issues and better story/dialogue. When was the last time you played ME1? because your comment on facial animations is not true. And while I am really enjoying Horizon, it is full of weird facial animations, slightly off lip sinking and it's fair share of cheesy lines. There is no need to lie about stuff in other games just to justify not liking MEA. It's ok that you don't like it, just like it is ok that I did. Since I won't be getting a PS4 any time soon I will not play HZD any time soon either I have checked it out on Twitch. And though the game looks good I've seen nothing raise it above and beyond what MEA has to offer. Granted most of the times Aloy has been talking to some Sun lord or Sun king and that guy is suffering from some essential tremor and/or facial ticks.  Aloy does as well at times.  No biggie for me. |
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Post by DarkBeaver on May 25, 2017 12:44:18 GMT
OP, you probably did yourself a big favor by waiting until the game had been patched a few times before getting into it. At release, it was not very good, and because that was the game that got reviewed, it got lower marks than it deserves now.
As others have stated, a lot boils down to personal preference. Someone who plays mostly multiplayer and is in it for the combat will have a very different opinion than someone who only plays single player and is in it for the story and characters. So ratings can vary widely. Some people can overlook what they perceive to be little things and enjoy the game immensely, and good for them. For others, those little things are huge issues, and that's fine, too.
I am a big fan of story and characters, and I rate the game about a 6/10. Maybe 7.5/10 now. To me, the companions were just ok, not great, but only Liam and Jaal were annoying. I didnt care for the Angara, I thought they were pretty bland considering this was a whole new galaxy and a chance to introduce something really unique. Fighting the collectors...errr....Kett, same thing, really, felt uninspired, and the Remnant, while fine in theory, became a 'solve three puzzles, open vault, rinse, repeat' x5 planets.
The game felt like the story was just there to drag you from combat to combat, whereas previous games felt like the combat was necessary to advance the story.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 25, 2017 13:02:10 GMT
When was the last time you played ME1? because your comment on facial animations is not true. And while I am really enjoying Horizon, it is full of weird facial animations, slightly off lip sinking and it's fair share of cheesy lines. There is no need to lie about stuff in other games just to justify not liking MEA. It's ok that you don't like it, just like it is ok that I did. Since I won't be getting a PS4 any time soon I will not play HZD any time soon either I have checked it out on Twitch. And though the game looks good I've seen nothing raise it above and beyond what MEA has to offer. Granted most of the times Aloy has been talking to some Sun lord or Sun king and that guy is suffering from some essential tremor and/or facial ticks. Aloy does as well at times. No biggie for me. If you ever pick up a PS4, HZD is a top notch game and an essential PS4 game in my view BUT there are some weird facial tremors & other animation issues. Nothing that is a big deal for me, but they are noticeable. |
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Post by Ancient on May 25, 2017 13:08:41 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right? Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed. That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder. As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise. All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them. Well you defiantly should not listen reviews, especially so called professional reviews. Simply because of their cognitive disorder way of thinking. But maybe in the case of Andromeda you have low standards? Andromeda characters are really bad compared to original trilogy. I mean i cared about Shepard and other. |
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Post by ozzie on May 25, 2017 13:32:13 GMT
I just find it boring. It's just so damn boring. The dialogue is akin to a kindergarden student. The GFX are unforgivably broken. The soundtrack is very very poor. The Facial Animations are WORSE the ME1s. We've come a long way and we get a buggy broken game at release with gfx problems and crappy dialogue. Now forgive me for complaining when i've spunked up some of my hard earned cash on this shite. The BIoderp fanbois can all huddle in a corner and glop over this unfinished garbage while the rest of us play games like Horizon Zero Dawn and the like that have no issues and better story/dialogue. When was the last time you played ME1? because your comment on facial animations is not true. And while I am really enjoying Horizon, it is full of weird facial animations, slightly off lip sinking and it's fair share of cheesy lines. There is no need to lie about stuff in other games just to justify not liking MEA. It's ok that you don't like it, just like it is ok that I did. I played ME1 just last week, and honesty there isn't all that much in it between ME1 and MEA. I think the better take away here is when ME1 came out people were wowed by how well animated and expressive the characters were... in a good way. Large scale use of 3D, voiced animated characters were in their infancy back then and to my memory, the next best thing you had to Mass Effect was Oblivion, and it was more than fair to say that the animations in ME1 were a quantum leap forward from that... we really shouldn't even be comparing games made a decade apart though... it shouldn't even be on the radar, that would be like comparing ME1 to Diablo or something. |
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Post by Elfen Lied on May 25, 2017 14:20:32 GMT
For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. Well, here is to hoping that BioWare continues the franchise and adds more story DLC to the game and perhaps, ME:A2. This is exactly what happened with DA2. Long before it came out internet had already decided that it had to die because "Boooohh.. no more warden, Boooohhh I want to continue my romance with Morrigan, Boooohhh I don't want to play human", and so on. Years later you could see many people who were reconsidering it: "Oh, one of the best writing ever" "Oh, sarcastic Hawke was so good" and so on. Let's just hope that this time haters won't force them to shut down the game before they have told us the whole story and before it's too late to regret it. |
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Post by correctamundo on May 25, 2017 14:21:15 GMT
Since I won't be getting a PS4 any time soon I will not play HZD any time soon either I have checked it out on Twitch. And though the game looks good I've seen nothing raise it above and beyond what MEA has to offer. Granted most of the times Aloy has been talking to some Sun lord or Sun king and that guy is suffering from some essential tremor and/or facial ticks. Aloy does as well at times. No biggie for me. If you ever pick up a PS4, HZD is a top notch game and an essential PS4 game in my view BUT there are some weird facial tremors & other animation issues. Nothing that is a big deal for me, but they are noticeable. Yup, I probably will pick up a new back-up console in the future. Like i use PS3 nowadays but newer and then HZD will definitely be a priority.  |
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Post by ergates on May 25, 2017 14:39:56 GMT
I have some theories on the reason for the negative reviews on launch - but I'm not going to share them on here, because they would prove quite controversial, and almost certainly get me flamed from any Breitbart/8chan-reading 'alt right' types who frequent these boards.
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Post by Sah291 on May 25, 2017 15:10:16 GMT
I have some theories on the reason for the negative reviews on launch - but I'm not going to share them on here, because they would prove quite controversial, and almost certainly get me flamed from any Breitbart/8chan-reading 'alt right' types who frequent these boards. I think we can guess anyways.  People don't like to discuss it due to all the toxicity, and I can't blame anyone, but there is absolutely some cultural/political warfare going on today through businesses, advertisers, media, etc. This not by any means limited to gaming or Bioware, or to one side only, but it's out there and an influence in the age of social media. Like news, I have trouble trusting reviews nowadays because half the time they turn out to be advertisements or clickbait or something. |
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Aloy does as well at times. 
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