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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 7, 2017 6:58:20 GMT
I also love how Zelda's open world gets a pass on filler, bad quests, and writing but Andromeda is the devil. It is the perfect example of bias and hypocrisy. Just slap the Zelda name on a bad game and insta perfection. You haven't even played Zelda - the best game of the past decade. But you love Andromeda, the 75th best PS4 game of the year so far lol. 75th by whom? by total idiots in metacritic whose I.Q can be measured from one hand of the teenage mutant ninja turtles? And who the hell visits this pos site anyway or listens to METRIC scores? are we serious? The gaming community and it's judgement on games isn't held in high regard even by it's members. Zelda, i dont doubt it's good, it is. But the dickriding.... oh yeah
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 7, 2017 18:12:22 GMT
Odd.
The reviews I read painted the picture of a game that was average, neither excessively good nor excessively bad. They seemed to accurately peg the significant decline in technical and writing quality compared to previous launches.
I'm enjoying the game, but I'm glad that I listened to the reviews and waited for the game to come down in price, as well long enough for most of the obvious technical issues to be at least somewhat addressed.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 7, 2017 2:35:37 GMT
I don't know how you can tolerate that game despite it's flaws that are obviously noticeable, each to his own but the game looks horrible. I seen the game in YouTube the story is terrible, the animations were horrid, and the combat is downgraded compared to ME3. And top of all that it was on on hold and the studio has shutdown. They are fucking up.
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Post by The Twilight God on Sept 7, 2017 3:00:57 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right? Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed. That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder. As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise. All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them. Mistake. You could have paid $59.99, but the game was at $29.99 a month after launch. It's jumped back to $39.99. $21.99 on PC with Amazon Prime.
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Post by voltangclan on Sept 7, 2017 3:15:19 GMT
You haven't even played Zelda - the best game of the past decade. But you love Andromeda, the 75th best PS4 game of the year so far lol. I neither love nor hate Andromeda. Zelda is an unknown to me and will stay that way until all eternity, since I'm not going out to buy a rather pricey piece of hardware to play one frigging game. Single platform games shouldn't even be compared to multiplatform, since their audience is by design limited to the owners of a particular piece of hardware. You miss nothing, earth clan. Breath of the mild is overrated.
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Post by mannyray on Sept 7, 2017 20:00:46 GMT
I don't know how you can tolerate that game despite it's flaws that are obviously noticeable, each to his own but the game looks horrible. I seen the game in YouTube the story is terrible, the animations were horrid, and the combat is downgraded compared to ME3. And top of all that it was on on hold and the studio has shutdown. They are fucking up. Watch pewdiepie and other clickbaiters play the game and let them think for you. Okay. I can respect someone's opinion even if I think they're going overboard if they at least played it. Oh well. the forum is full of pundits who are the most angry about the game and "looks horrible hurdur youtube said hurdur" and they never played so much as a free trial. Form opinions by doing.
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Post by suikoden on Sept 7, 2017 20:22:26 GMT
I don't know how you can tolerate that game despite it's flaws that are obviously noticeable, each to his own but the game looks horrible. I seen the game in YouTube the story is terrible, the animations were horrid, and the combat is downgraded compared to ME3. And top of all that it was on on hold and the studio has shutdown. They are fucking up. Watch pewdiepie and other clickbaiters play the game and let them think for you. Okay. I can respect someone's opinion even if I think they're going overboard if they at least played it. Oh well. the forum is full of pundits who are the most angry about the game and "looks horrible hurdur youtube said hurdur" and they never played so much as a free trial. Form opinions by doing. He was pretty spot on though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 20:31:18 GMT
I neither love nor hate Andromeda. Zelda is an unknown to me and will stay that way until all eternity, since I'm not going out to buy a rather pricey piece of hardware to play one frigging game. Single platform games shouldn't even be compared to multiplatform, since their audience is by design limited to the owners of a particular piece of hardware. You miss nothing, earth clan. Breath of the mild is overrated. Well, tbh, I saw BoW play demonstration during one of those gaming shows last year, and I frankly cannot imagine what the game can possibly offer to anyone above age ten? It looks like a child cartoon about a baby-blue bell hopping around the Kingdom of Pretty Flowers solving cutesy puzzles. It certainly does not look anything like what I imagine a videogame appealing to millions of adults. So, yeah, I get why people dislike Andromeda, but I am not sure why BoW is even a thing?
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Post by krighaur on Sept 7, 2017 20:33:03 GMT
Saint youtube, please tell us what we must think, because we are unable to decide by ourselves ! Then we will try to convince those who decide by themselves because they are wrong. Oh mighty youtube, I bow in front of your wisdom Saint youtube please deliver us from the annoyance of playing, please do the boring play and tell us how shit the game was
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Post by smilesja on Sept 7, 2017 20:33:29 GMT
Best to not let reviewers influence you and rather look at gameplay videos on Youtube.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 7, 2017 20:45:25 GMT
Best to not let reviewers influence you and rather look at gameplay videos on Youtube. which only gives you a small impression of what the game is like.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 7, 2017 21:53:00 GMT
Best to not let reviewers influence you and rather look at gameplay videos on Youtube. which only gives you a small impression of what the game is like. And those videos especially in this case were filled with bile. *waves at Angry Joe, and many others.* Many of them jumped on the hate train.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 7, 2017 22:08:06 GMT
Best to not let reviewers influence you and rather look at gameplay videos on Youtube. which only gives you a small impression of what the game is like. Yeah, this is a bizarre attitude to say the least. More information is pretty much always better than less information, and so best would almost certainly be to utilize both. And as you say, its not like gameplay videos are a valid substitute for reviews, unless you're willing to watch hours of gameplay videos (and not just of combat, but of dialogue, exploration, character creation, cutscenes, etc.). Reviews shouldn't be taken as gospel truth, that's absolutely true, but to disavow them entirely is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I guess maybe you should avoid reviews if you lack any confidence in your ability to critically weigh what you read and come to an independent decision, but for most people feedback/information about potential purchases (games or anything else) is always a good thing.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 7, 2017 22:21:03 GMT
which only gives you a small impression of what the game is like. Yeah, this is a bizarre attitude to say the least. More information is pretty much always better than less information, and so best would almost certainly be to utilize both. And as you say, its not like gameplay videos are a valid substitute for reviews, unless you're willing to watch hours of gameplay videos (and not just of combat, but of dialogue, exploration, character creation, cutscenes, etc.). Reviews shouldn't be taken as gospel truth, that's absolutely true, but to disavow them entirely is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I guess maybe you should avoid reviews if you lack any confidence in your ability to critically weigh what you read and come to an independent decision, but for most people feedback/information about potential purchases (games or anything else) is always a good thing. Most professional reviews are one sided or biased. And YouTube reviews? Ha! Now gameplay videos where the poster is neutral are fine. But when the video has him/her bitching the entire time well not helpful.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 7, 2017 22:33:08 GMT
Yeah, this is a bizarre attitude to say the least. More information is pretty much always better than less information, and so best would almost certainly be to utilize both. And as you say, its not like gameplay videos are a valid substitute for reviews, unless you're willing to watch hours of gameplay videos (and not just of combat, but of dialogue, exploration, character creation, cutscenes, etc.). Reviews shouldn't be taken as gospel truth, that's absolutely true, but to disavow them entirely is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I guess maybe you should avoid reviews if you lack any confidence in your ability to critically weigh what you read and come to an independent decision, but for most people feedback/information about potential purchases (games or anything else) is always a good thing. Most professional reviews are one sided or biased. And YouTube reviews? Ha! Now gameplay videos where the poster is neutral are fine. But when the video has him/her bitching the entire time well not helpful. Everyone has a bias, sure, but professional critics writing for reputable publications are not as biased as people like to make out (particularly after a game they happen to like got disappointing reviews- "they didn't like MEA, they're just biased against bioware!"). And in any case there's nothing stopping any halfway intelligent reader from noting a writer's bias and weighing their conclusions accordingly- doesn't mean more information isn't still better than less. It is. Pretty much always. And unless you're willing to watch videos of all the non-combat aspects of a game that reviews will cover but most gameplay videos will not, they're not a substitute for reviews, as has been noted. And its a false dilemma anyways. The more info you can get the better for you, so by all means watch the videos and read the reviews... and then come to your own decision.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 8, 2017 1:10:16 GMT
which only gives you a small impression of what the game is like. Yeah, this is a bizarre attitude to say the least. More information is pretty much always better than less information, and so best would almost certainly be to utilize both. And as you say, its not like gameplay videos are a valid substitute for reviews, unless you're willing to watch hours of gameplay videos (and not just of combat, but of dialogue, exploration, character creation, cutscenes, etc.). Reviews shouldn't be taken as gospel truth, that's absolutely true, but to disavow them entirely is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I guess maybe you should avoid reviews if you lack any confidence in your ability to critically weigh what you read and come to an independent decision, but for most people feedback/information about potential purchases (games or anything else) is always a good thing. honestly do what you want to do for judging if a game is worth it. Reviews? Fine. YouTube? Great. Play two hours of a trial? ...ok. Whatever. But for me I would never review or trash a game i haven't played to significant degree. That's what bugs me.
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Post by Guts on Sept 8, 2017 1:18:46 GMT
Going onto metacritic user scores can be laughably predictable tbh. ME:A was no exception. Granted the game had a lot of flaws but it was a fun game despite this. Totalbiscuit even said that the game for him was a true 7/10, with a lot of things the game does right it also does something wrong, like the craftin system being cooled but it was marred by a crappy UI. He even admitted that despite liking the characters, the characters are very subjective. (I thought they were fine) I thought Peebee was better than Liara because Peebee actually had a solid character arc, I felt Peebee had some actual flaws to her character, such as admittedly being selfish and a bit of a jerk, whereas Liara seemed like she had no flaws and was a typical Mary Sue (Especially in the later games), and I felt that Peebee wasn't shoved down your throat as much as Liara. (If I'm wrong with the very last bit, feel free to point it out)
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Post by Guts on Sept 8, 2017 1:22:06 GMT
Maybe because it's a 10/10 game? Makes you wonder why Andromeda is getting 5's and 6's - maybe because it's shit? Gosh you are still here, commenting on a game you apparently hate. It's like one of those children who go around pulling a girl's hair when they secretly fancy them. Maybe it's masochism. I bitch about Liara a bunch tbh, but I don't exactly like it. In all honesty I really wanted to like Liara.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 8, 2017 21:54:33 GMT
I don't know how you can tolerate that game despite it's flaws that are obviously noticeable, each to his own but the game looks horrible. I seen the game in YouTube the story is terrible, the animations were horrid, and the combat is downgraded compared to ME3. And top of all that it was on on hold and the studio has shutdown. They are fucking up. Watch pewdiepie and other clickbaiters play the game and let them think for you. Okay. I can respect someone's opinion even if I think they're going overboard if they at least played it. Oh well. the forum is full of pundits who are the most angry about the game and "looks horrible hurdur youtube said hurdur" and they never played so much as a free trial. Form opinions by doing. I think for myself and I'm not going to waste my money for a game that looks like a complete mess. So there you go.
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Post by Guts on Sept 8, 2017 23:02:51 GMT
Watch pewdiepie and other clickbaiters play the game and let them think for you. Okay. I can respect someone's opinion even if I think they're going overboard if they at least played it. Oh well. the forum is full of pundits who are the most angry about the game and "looks horrible hurdur youtube said hurdur" and they never played so much as a free trial. Form opinions by doing. I think for myself and I'm not going to waste my money for a game that looks like a complete mess. So there you go. In terms of glitches I personally only had a few, the spazzing leg/slow walk glitch and one where I fell right through Kadara. Outside of that no problems with glitches. YMMV though.
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