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Post by Arcian on Jun 1, 2017 4:18:12 GMT
How come the internet didn't hurt other games? Why didn't people shit on the new Zelda or Horizon Zero Dawn? Damn this evil internet must have something against Bioware... One reviewer gave a 70% to Zelda, he received death threat for it. Makes you wonder why the majority of the reviewers gave it a 10/10... Because it's actually an amazing game, unlike ME:A?
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Post by suikoden on Jun 1, 2017 13:09:26 GMT
One reviewer gave a 70% to Zelda, he received death threat for it. Makes you wonder why the majority of the reviewers gave it a 10/10... Because it's actually an amazing game, unlike ME:A? Got a Switch and Zelda a week ago, and wow - Zelda is incredible. Nothing is off-limits - everything is interactive. It makes MEA feel like you're playing in a small cardboard box.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 1, 2017 16:28:02 GMT
One reviewer gave a 70% to Zelda, he received death threat for it. Makes you wonder why the majority of the reviewers gave it a 10/10... Because it's actually an amazing game, unlike ME:A? Don't know reviewers were always a bit biased towards Nintendo games
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Post by PostGameParty on Jun 1, 2017 16:40:29 GMT
I really don't care at all about what professional reviewers say. Their entire industry became obsolete once it became easy to just look at the fan reviews for games on the same screen you can choose whether or not to purchase it on.
The 6/10s this game got were ridiculous, that's around the scores given to "The Technomancer" which if you've played that game I need say no more to express how insane that is. They gave low scores to grandstand because they're obsessed with how they are perceived by their audiences. Andromeda had an internet bandwagon against it, and the reviews reflected that rather than the actual game.
The game is a solid 8/10. Its not a masterpiece like the original trilogy games were, but I'm shocked so many outright dislike it. I thought it blew Inquisition out of the water.
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 1, 2017 16:49:25 GMT
I really don't care at all about what professional reviewers say. Their entire industry became obsolete once it became easy to just look at the fan reviews for games on the same screen you can choose whether or not to purchase it on. The 6/10s this game got were ridiculous, that's around the scores given to "The Technomancer" which if you've played that game I need say no more to express how insane that is. They gave low scores to grandstand because they're obsessed with how they are perceived by their audiences. Andromeda had an internet bandwagon against it, and the reviews reflected that rather than the actual game. The game is a solid 8/10. Its not a masterpiece like the original trilogy games were, but I'm shocked so many outright dislike it. I thought it blew Inquisition out of the water. Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released.
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Post by PostGameParty on Jun 1, 2017 17:00:31 GMT
I really don't care at all about what professional reviewers say. Their entire industry became obsolete once it became easy to just look at the fan reviews for games on the same screen you can choose whether or not to purchase it on. The 6/10s this game got were ridiculous, that's around the scores given to "The Technomancer" which if you've played that game I need say no more to express how insane that is. They gave low scores to grandstand because they're obsessed with how they are perceived by their audiences. Andromeda had an internet bandwagon against it, and the reviews reflected that rather than the actual game. The game is a solid 8/10. Its not a masterpiece like the original trilogy games were, but I'm shocked so many outright dislike it. I thought it blew Inquisition out of the water. Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here...
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 1, 2017 17:06:13 GMT
Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here... Except that's not really the way it works. Games get reviewed on release. If the folks at BW are that worried about they should have fixed the game up before they released it. Since they didn't I can only assume releasing a polished game wasn't all that important to them. Its not like they didn't know about these issues beforehand. Frankly I think the scores and the backlash were well deserved. After the last patch the game is definitely much better than it was at release.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 1, 2017 17:07:53 GMT
I really don't care at all about what professional reviewers say. Their entire industry became obsolete once it became easy to just look at the fan reviews for games on the same screen you can choose whether or not to purchase it on. The 6/10s this game got were ridiculous, that's around the scores given to "The Technomancer" which if you've played that game I need say no more to express how insane that is. They gave low scores to grandstand because they're obsessed with how they are perceived by their audiences. Andromeda had an internet bandwagon against it, and the reviews reflected that rather than the actual game. The game is a solid 8/10. Its not a masterpiece like the original trilogy games were, but I'm shocked so many outright dislike it. I thought it blew Inquisition out of the water. Well user scores are actually worse than the professional ones, pick whichever you like but both aren't good(I wouldn't even say they're bad either). Nevertheless one shouldn't just accept what they put out, you're only supposed to use them for information, it's then up to you to decide to buy and play and then you make up your own perspective on it. i myself have the game sitting at a 6 cause it underachieved what I was expecting. It's not even because of animations, bugs, or how unpolished it is, it's more for the story being rehashed, characters making everything being so light hearted and a joke, and the character preset being awful as well as combat getting downgrade ability wise. Not to mention the multiplayer itself is just a copy and paste variant of ME3 but with new toys and maps, you get the multiplayer stale going that route if you offer nothing new cause maps and guns won't cover it. The biggest issue is I have no desire to replay it, first one yet for the bioware games. Keep in mind, I do like the game(it's a decent one and done game to me), but it still sits at a mediocre 6 for me.
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Post by ozzie on Jun 1, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here... Disagree, a game should only ever be scored on its release state. There are people out there who have no internet or only mobile only internet with limited data allowance, I know one person in that boat. Attempting to patch his PS4 and ME:A up to date could take him months and leave him without access to anything else. If companies don't want crap scores they should release their games in a finished state.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 17:33:36 GMT
Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here... It is not really that different. The one thing that is really noticeable throughout is the shine/depth they gave to the eyes, which, yes, was very noticeable. I am a PC player, and I was at an 8 to 9/10 after the first PT that started on Day 1, and holding at 9 after two PTs, cause NG+ makes it even better.
I am not registered on any of those sites were users review games, or make reviews or whatever. So what I think is basically not registering at all, if one voice mattered anyway.
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Post by xassantex on Jun 1, 2017 18:09:15 GMT
Oddly this game has grown on me . ( maybe because i don't have anything else to play >:/ .) I still cringe at some dialogue choices and the " i just want to have fun " Ryder attitude . But at least it seems to decrease as the game advances. By mid game Ryder's replies and comments become relevant to the dire situation of the Initiative.
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Post by piratesnugglecakes on Jun 1, 2017 18:38:49 GMT
If you're interested in a game, by all means form your own opinion. Don't let negative reviews dissuade you. That said, just because you really like a game, doesn't mean that anyone saying anything negative about it is a hater or a liar.
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Post by Arcian on Jun 1, 2017 18:55:40 GMT
Because it's actually an amazing game, unlike ME:A? Don't know reviewers were always a bit biased towards Nintendo games Maybe because Nintendo consistently puts out quality products? It's the same reason why Pixar movies rarely if ever get bad aggregate scores. Just like Nintendo they put out easily accessible, high-quality, well-polished entertainment for all demographics. Meh, the game was buggy, unpolished, and obviously rushed. As the game stood at release I don't think a 6.5 or 7 /10 is being unreasonable. If they do another big patch soon and fix all the remaining important bugs and fix the CC I'd agree a 7.5 or 8 is not a bad, if somewhat generous, score for the game. Of course this is scoring the games months after it released. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here... That's why first impressions matter.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 5, 2017 0:02:31 GMT
I’ll admit this right up front – listening to those early reviews was a HUGE mistake! As a massive fan of the original series, I, like many, was pretty jaded with the ending of ME:3 and so I refused to trust another BioWare game until I saw endless glowing reviews about how amazing Andromeda was. Even when friends told me the reviews were way off and the game was actually very fun and entertaining to play, I simply ignored them. After all, if someone makes a YouTube video about a game, it must be true – right? Long story short, I went ahead and bought the game a few days ago and to my surprise, it felt just like what I’ve always come to expect from a Mass Effect game – engaging. It’s like that amazing book you’ve read where you find yourself being unable to put it down because you “must know what happens next!” Granted, the early parts of the game are a bit slow and some of the open world quests can be boring or add little to nothing to the overall story. And yes, some of the animations are fairly dismal compared to what you would expect in 2017 but overall, they don’t jump out at you as terrible like most reviewers have claimed. That thought brings me to all the endless and mind-numbingly drool of complaints about how vanilla the characters are, how the voice acting is pathetically bad or how there isn’t any emotion to character interaction. Really? They must not be playing the same game that I’m play because those accusations couldn’t be further from reality. From what I’ve seen so far, the characters have distinct, memorable personalities, the VA is top notch (with some great one-liners) and interaction between the characters (especially squad mates) is a breath of fresh air. When considering the history of BioWare games and character development, ME:A stands right up on the top rungs of the ladder. As for the rest of the game, the combat is amazing, the new skill combination system is exactly what most of player base was asking for and the music is very fitting for “most” of the scenes. Overall, it’s very much a Mass Effect game and well worth the history of the franchise. All those terrible reviews I saw, read, listened to – well, I sure feel dumb believing them. For one reason or another, the internet was determined to hate this game from the very beginning. We saw evidence of that as much as a year before the game even released. Only an out-of-the-park 10/10 game could have beaten that determination, and MEA certainly wasn't a 10/10. It's a damn shame that the internet may have killed ME. It's not the internet it's the developers screwed up the game.
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Post by majorkong on Jun 5, 2017 4:38:57 GMT
The biggest failing of MEA is that it took five years to develop and it still could have used a another couple passes through QA and better character editor.
By most objective criteria MEA is a better game than ME1 but ME1 was 10 years ago, so yeah we should have gotten a revolutionary product instead of something that is only incrementally better.
Aside from those points. I do agree with the OP. MEA is a good game and worth playing and I don't believe that it deserves all the hate that it got on launch.
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Post by majorkong on Jun 5, 2017 4:42:45 GMT
One thing I have noticed (I'm about 80% of the way through I think) is that the back end of the game is a hell of a lot better than the front. Which is odd. +1 on this point. MEA starts slow and for the first few hours I didn't think I was going to be finishing the game. All that changed once I got into first vault. From that point on it was hard for me to stop.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 5, 2017 20:55:33 GMT
Don't know reviewers were always a bit biased towards Nintendo games Maybe because Nintendo consistently puts out quality products? It's the same reason why Pixar movies rarely if ever get bad aggregate scores. Just like Nintendo they put out easily accessible, high-quality, well-polished entertainment for all demographics. I did only play it for the first time recently, so maybe thats why I don't understand it. But they should re-score IMO, people's jobs at kind of at stake here... That's why first impressions matter. Dunno about that I feel that reviewers are very leinient Nintendo sometimes
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Post by clips7 on Jun 6, 2017 8:19:06 GMT
Hmmm....i tend to listen to reviews just to get an idea of how the game is overall. There was no doubt i was going to buy Andromeda anyway (looking at early vids in general i knew it would be a big production game) but even when i read reviews about the lackluster story and other aspects, i didn't let that deter me.
Once i got the game tho....it does start off extremely slow....and for me there was a good stretch where i put the game down for two weeks because the story was so boring...i actually nodded off while playing parts of it...(not good)....when i did get back to it, the game for me started to pick up when i got to Kadara and Elaaden ( i love those two planets....oh and that moon planet too).....but that was when the story picked up for me.
It's a decent game and probably my least liked overall, but it is not bad game by any means and i cannot stop saying that this game's visuals are absolutely stunning in some parts.... and Andromeda's overall planet design felt organic and real and not chopped off blocked maps....they did a really good job in that aspect.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 6, 2017 14:53:23 GMT
Because it's actually an amazing game, unlike ME:A? Got a Switch and Zelda a week ago, and wow - Zelda is incredible. Nothing is off-limits - everything is interactive. It makes MEA feel like you're playing in a small cardboard box. Really? All the cooking? the non stop rain? the kiddy setting? the weapon degradation system where when you get a new weapon you don t feel excited as you are inclined to use it carefully As it is "CAUTION, FRAGILE! " all over it? the story?
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 6, 2017 17:59:17 GMT
Got a Switch and Zelda a week ago, and wow - Zelda is incredible. Nothing is off-limits - everything is interactive. It makes MEA feel like you're playing in a small cardboard box. Really? All the cooking? the non stop rain? the kiddy setting? the weapon degradation system where when you get a new weapon you don t feel excited as you are inclined to use it carefully As it is "CAUTION, FRAGILE! " all over it? the story? I also love how Zelda's open world gets a pass on filler, bad quests, and writing but Andromeda is the devil. It is the perfect example of bias and hypocrisy. Just slap the Zelda name on a bad game and insta perfection.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 6, 2017 18:33:28 GMT
Really? All the cooking? the non stop rain? the kiddy setting? the weapon degradation system where when you get a new weapon you don t feel excited as you are inclined to use it carefully As it is "CAUTION, FRAGILE! " all over it? the story? I also love how Zelda's open world gets a pass on filler, bad quests, and writing but Andromeda is the devil. It is the perfect example of bias and hypocrisy. Just slap the Zelda name on a bad game and insta perfection. heck even MARIO fits that bill.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 6, 2017 19:31:33 GMT
I also love how Zelda's open world gets a pass on filler, bad quests, and writing but Andromeda is the devil. It is the perfect example of bias and hypocrisy. Just slap the Zelda name on a bad game and insta perfection. heck even MARIO fits that bill. If the new Mario also rips off ten year old games and gets called revolutionary, it will really shine a light on how embarrassing some Nintendo fans are. I've seen people call the towers and minimal map markers as a a revolutionary Nintendo creation. Guess they never played Morrowind or any Ubisoft game.........
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Post by suikoden on Jun 6, 2017 19:43:09 GMT
Really? All the cooking? the non stop rain? the kiddy setting? the weapon degradation system where when you get a new weapon you don t feel excited as you are inclined to use it carefully As it is "CAUTION, FRAGILE! " all over it? the story? I also love how Zelda's open world gets a pass on filler, bad quests, and writing but Andromeda is the devil. It is the perfect example of bias and hypocrisy. Just slap the Zelda name on a bad game and insta perfection. You haven't even played Zelda - the best game of the past decade. But you love Andromeda, the 75th best PS4 game of the year so far lol.
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Post by abaris on Jun 6, 2017 21:00:53 GMT
You haven't even played Zelda - the best game of the past decade. But you love Andromeda, the 75th best PS4 game of the year so far lol. I neither love nor hate Andromeda. Zelda is an unknown to me and will stay that way until all eternity, since I'm not going out to buy a rather pricey piece of hardware to play one frigging game. Single platform games shouldn't even be compared to multiplatform, since their audience is by design limited to the owners of a particular piece of hardware.
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Post by vonuber on Jun 6, 2017 23:48:08 GMT
You haven't even played Zelda - the best game of the past decade. But you love Andromeda, the 75th best PS4 game of the year so far lol. What even better than the Witcher 3? Have you told Geralt you've broken up with him?
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