70 hours in, i cannot get most of the complaints. At all. UPDATED OP#2

I found Horizon: Zero Dawn more immersive, tbh, even though it had less RPG elements than Andromeda. The story and the world it played out in were just really good and mysterious enough to keep me engaged.

I know. In fact I actually appreciate how much the developers fix the games after release in this day and age. Unless I am really hot on a game, I wait at least a year to see how much of a support was offered. IMO, post-release support is a part of a quality package, rather than something detrimental.

I know what you mean OP and I have been playing since before any patches were made and still loved it and I do even more now, and never even had half the bugs people got, so maybe that's why I see nothing worth complaining about. *shrugs*

I get the feeling this will be like the old BSN forums. For years after ME3's release, newcomers would repeatedly make new threads complaining about ME3's ending like they were the first ones to ever feel that way. Now, newcomers will repeatedly make new threads claiming they actually like ME:A despite the criticism, or how they agree with the complaints.

It's true that many of those complaints started before the swarm of patches came in. Yet first impressions count. That's what happened with ME3's ending which was also "patched" later with the extended cut. But the damage was done by then, and early adopters couldn't forget the simple R/B/G choice with little else before the credits rolled.

I was one of those there when ME:A released. To start, I remember how an entire planet (Havarl) was near unplayable due to excessive lag. Unlike many though, I was able to look past all ME:A's problems (bugs and otherwise) to still acknowledge it as a "good" game. But that's all it was, and all it still is as far as I'm concerned.

I experienced all of those exact things in TW3... falling through the floor, being attacked and killed during a conversation, becoming stuck inside objects, having my horse literally ride right through trees and other allegedly solid objects, head and body parts turning right around 360 degrees, streaks of solid color in the environment... and I was playing a patched version just recently.  I also found there to still be partial mission failures that were complained about by players two years ago.

ME1 - I still get stuck in the CIC such that I have to shut the game off and reload.  There is a consistent issue on Feros of colonists getting stuck inside walls.

Minecraft - Still regularly crashes on my Xbox 360.

While I don't like TW3, it's not really because of the bugs that remain... but my point is, you certainly never heard anyone making as big a deal over them as they have with essentially the same bugs in ME:A.

The eye animations were poor to start with, but they have been significantly improved.  They were also, however, greatly "enhanced/exaggerated" in many of the memes and alleged clips that hit the net.  A more accurate depiction of how the problem was can be found in a number of YouTube playthroughs that were released using the pre-patched version and comparing those to playthroughs started more recently with the various patched versions.

I wanted to post a wall of text but instead I'll just say 'good for you OP' because that's what it boils down to anyway. And no, that's not in a sassy or mean way, it just exactly describes what I think about threads like this one. Everyone's entitled to his or her own opinion. You liked the game and disagreed with the criticism other reviewers and players have pointed out, whilst I have been struggling to finish a single campaign and wholeheartedly agree with people not burning the game to the ground but still pointing out flaws. For me, the story, minigames, animations and races are not on an acceptable level for a Bioware production but I see that's different for you. No problem. I'm glad you enjoy the game.

I think the falling through the environment bug is present in a lot of games.  Intersections are tough to program so they work right 100% of the time.  In TW3, I had a horse in one spot that was imbedded halfway into the ground.  It also showed up as an enemy (red health bar above it's head) and if Geralt stood close to it, he would take damage (I presume it was kicking damage even though the horse's legs were completely under the dirt).  Saving and reloading did not rectify the situation either.  Since the horse was standing right near the one blacksmith, it basically made it next to impossible for Geralt to do business with that particular blacksmith.  then, there was the blacksmith in the other town, whose "talk" symbol would not activate unless Geralt stood close to him and then I saved the game and reloaded it.  With another smith, I had to meditate while standing next to him to get his "talk" symbol to activate... all in all, it made it pretty difficult for Geralt to get new swords crafted.  Again, it's not the major reason why I disliked that game... that falls on the way the game flowed, the excessive use of looting, and the way they introduced back story and codex entries via a myriad of little "books" you'd find in game... in no particular order because the game is open world and with many, many duplicates of them (also because the game is open world).

In ME1, I tend to like to punch the colonists in the Feros mission rather than using the gas grenades (my Shepard really opposes using nerve gas)... anyway, I have quite often had the security woman or Ledra get stuck just on the edges of the environment just out of reach of Shepard.  Of course, the mission cannot continue unless all the colonist are dealt with.  Fortunately, sometimes the gas grenades can still knock them out and other times they can still be shot... but sometimes, it's a restart of that section.

wait ...wait...WAIT...Dai animation were fine. There was not out cry because there was no issue with the animation. Mea is different. It was really bad. It you want.to see how bad it was....look at the vet a romance before the patch. Seriously, Ryder looks like he's an android or on drugs in this sceans.

Dragon age inquisition, doom, witcher 3, the campaign for battle field one, cod infinite warfare, dark souls 3, harizion dawn, loz breath of the wild, hyper light drifter.... I can go on.

Or maybe he could find that the game still had potential to be of his like and then quit it for a while waiting for a patch. I was one of the NVidia players who couldn't even play TW3 for a couple of minutes on day 1. But I had faith in the game and I waited. Luckily it took them only 3 days to release patch 1.03 and then I waited a couple of days more just to hear other players feedback before start playing myself. Obviously I was a little annoyed that I had to wait some day but I didn't go to curse them and their heritage in every available site. And if I had to wait 2 weeks rather than 2 days my judgment of the game would not have changed a bit.

Yeah you use biotics and phase through. My sword was at rank 3 and when I swung it, Sara vanished in blue light, reappeared behind the wall and fell down to the level I had just climbed up. It reminded me of Fade Step in DAI and that could lead to some bad glitches if you went into a wall and got stuck.