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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
Is this really the argument against it? It had multiple edits? Anyway, if MEA has more than 1 singleplayer DLC, then you're right. But it won't. I don't care for the edits, but it contradicts itself. Why say the franchise is on ice but then say EA was happy with it and still has strong expectations for the franchise? Either the article is there for attention(click bait), or EA is lieing. Kind of why I've said they need to give an official statement or this just keeps getting brought up. EA doesn't work that way sadly. The bi Jaal rage was just like the Sims 4 toddlers fiasco. People begged, pleaded and threatened and then the devs patched in the content for free, but EA did not let them say anything until they wanted it to be said. Right now we have hints of an SP DLC from the MEAMP yesterday, and that means something will likely happen soon. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 23, 2017 19:31:23 GMT
The story is very generic... Not sure how that can be debated. The majority of players were fans of the trilogy's story, while Andromeda is incredibly decisive. This should warrent a change and you should realise that even as a fan of the story and characters in Ansromeda. Another issue. The MEA team said MEA is new. Nothing about it is meant to relate to the trilogy. It was a new beginning. A story about hope, not survival. It had humor, younger heroes and a plot that's only just starting. If MET fans try to compare it, compare the squadmates and the story, it will not match up. It's meant to be viewed with new eyes. I also had to remind myself of that because many times I got into a Shepard way of thinking and realized it won't work for Ryder. Ryder is not an N7. Ryder is just as normal as the person playing them and can be shaped in a way that can be like Shepard to an extent or someone more like yourself. That doesn't change the fact that it's decisive and reviled by a portion of the fan base. That should tell you that they need to go back the drawing board and make a more universally received effort and not more of the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:32:09 GMT
I love when people compare a long-time trilogy that expanded your hero's story and introduced new characters to a game that's just beginning.  Yep. It ´ s kinda sad that it makes sense to them. Or maybe they just want to troll. Don ´ t know which one is worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:32:41 GMT
Another issue. The MEA team said MEA is new. Nothing about it is meant to relate to the trilogy. It was a new beginning. A story about hope, not survival. It had humor, younger heroes and a plot that's only just starting. If MET fans try to compare it, compare the squadmates and the story, it will not match up. It's meant to be viewed with new eyes. I also had to remind myself of that because many times I got into a Shepard way of thinking and realized it won't work for Ryder. Ryder is not an N7. Ryder is just as normal as the person playing them and can be shaped in a way that can be like Shepard to an extent or someone more like yourself. That doesn't change the fact that it's decisive and reviled by a portion of the fan base. That should tell you that they need to go back the drawing board and make a more universally received effort and not more of the same. If MET fans won't embrace MEA, then they are pretty close-minded people, and I highly doubt that's the majority of true ME fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:34:36 GMT
Your enjoyment of the game has nothing to do with what I said. That Andromeda failed to meet expectations from the general fanbase, critics and most importantly, EA's, it doesn't mean the game can't be enjoyed. Mass Effect being put on ice is not because some people wanted it to fail, but because the game wasn't good enough. It's simple, really. That choice wasn't made by Bioware because they were tired, because by EA because they thought it was the best thing to do. But where's the proof that me a is being put on ice because of the reception? In heads of trolls. |
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Post by smilesja on Jun 23, 2017 19:37:00 GMT
That doesn't change the fact that it's decisive and reviled by a portion of the fan base. That should tell you that they need to go back the drawing board and make a more universally received effort and not more of the same. If MET fans won't embrace MEA, then they are pretty close-minded people, and I highly doubt that's the majority of true ME fans. To be fair it's their opinion that they don't like me a. I do have an issue if they act petty and conceited. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:37:29 GMT
I love when people compare a long-time trilogy that expanded your hero's story and introduced new characters to a game that's just beginning. Yep. It ´ s kinda sad that it makes sense to them. Or maybe they just want to troll. Don ´ t know which one is worse. Trolls and genuine blood lust at BW for ME3's ending and shutting down the official forums. Either way the hate is so over the top and exaggerated it's not even believable and contradicts the legit statistics showing how well MEA performed. smilesja exactly. I doubt the ones with the big mouths have even played the game more than once. That's why I said I doubt actual ME fans are the ones trying to ruin it. I've seen legit fans critique it maturely and admit they prefer the MET, but this recent crap is just not fans to me, but a mob of idiots. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:41:39 GMT
That doesn't change the fact that it's decisive and reviled by a portion of the fan base. That should tell you that they need to go back the drawing board and make a more universally received effort and not more of the same. If MET fans won't embrace MEA, then they are pretty close-minded people, and I highly doubt that's the majority of true ME fans. Would you say the same of Star Wars fans? Do they need to embrace the prequels in order to be proper Star Wars fans? Because i won't, the prequels are a hot mess. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 23, 2017 19:43:02 GMT
Definitely... I am totally blaming them for giving me a great game that I'm thoroughly enjoying and having fun playing. My credit/blame goes where it has been earned and is deserved. Over the 5 years before ME:A's release many tried to stop any other ME game from ever being released. They've been campaigning to basically shut down the company for all that time as well. So, despite all the shit Bioware endured over those years, they released a game I very much enjoy. I have it now... and no one can take it away from me. I can't blame Bioware for being tired of the fan abuse they take, but I do hope they overcome it one more time even though those same "fans" are already working hard to prevent the release of another ME game... some things never change. I want Bioware to know that I, for one, will be waiting with excited anticipation for the next installment to Ryder's story. You're not perfect, Bioware; but IMO, you're damn good at what you do. I'm about done with "fans" demanding BW to do things as if their say is all that counts. If not for BW they wouldn't even have a game or characters that caused such a strong reaction in the first place. yeah I agree without Bioware we wouldn't have had the trliogy or any of the DA games either so I'm glad they exist to make these games as they've become fabulous and some of my favourite games to play. I doubt I'd have put as many hours into the game as I have if I didn't enjoy them. According to my Origin account for example I've almost clocked up 3000 hours on DAI just gone over 2000 on ME 3 and that's just those 2 games alone. That's also not counting ME1 and 2 and of course DAO and DA2 as well which I know I've spent countless hours with too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:43:31 GMT
If MET fans won't embrace MEA, then they are pretty close-minded people, and I highly doubt that's the majority of true ME fans. Would you say the same of Star Wars fans? Do they need to embrace the prequels in order to be proper Star Wars fans? Becuase i won't, the prequels are a hot mess. Star Wars fans are just a whole other level of crazy but my point is, the ones wanting to ruin MEA and saying we need to go back to the MW to save it are imo not the majority of ME fans. Not from what I've seen around the Internet. |
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Post by smilesja on Jun 23, 2017 19:47:21 GMT
If MET fans won't embrace MEA, then they are pretty close-minded people, and I highly doubt that's the majority of true ME fans. Would you say the same of Star Wars fans? Do they need to embrace the prequels in order to be proper Star Wars fans? Because i won't, the prequels are a hot mess. Well the prequel hate is starting to fade away. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:48:21 GMT
Would you say the same of Star Wars fans? Do they need to embrace the prequels in order to be proper Star Wars fans? Because i won't, the prequels are a hot mess. Well the prequel hate is starting to fade away. 4,5,6 and 7 are still the better ones imo. For me MEA is like 7, and I love both so much for the old/new combined! |
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Post by kino on Jun 23, 2017 19:52:40 GMT
An article that he had to edit multiple times. I do expect more stuff to come for me a in the future. Is this really the argument against it? It had multiple edits? Anyway, if MEA has more than 1 singleplayer DLC, then you're right. But it won't. Wait, now it's more than 1 campaign DLC? I thought it was there is no DLC coming? The article author even made that statement on Reddit. Can't move the goal posts now. All the detractors planted their flag on the premise that MEA was shelved. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:57:39 GMT
Well the prequel hate is starting to fade away. 4,5,6 and 7 are still the better ones imo. For me MEA is like 7, and I love both so much for the old/new combined! Yep. And I just wish people would finally understand that movies and video games are not the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 19:59:13 GMT
4,5,6 and 7 are still the better ones imo. For me MEA is like 7, and I love both so much for the old/new combined! Yep. And I just wish people would finally understand that movies and video games are not the same. Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. |
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Post by colfoley on Jun 23, 2017 20:00:59 GMT
Well the prequel hate is starting to fade away. 4,5,6 and 7 are still the better ones imo. For me MEA is like 7, and I love both so much for the old/new combined! i was tempted to call Andromeda 'mass effect: the biotics awaken' in my review. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:02:35 GMT
4,5,6 and 7 are still the better ones imo. For me MEA is like 7, and I love both so much for the old/new combined! i was tempted to call Andromeda 'mass effect: the biotics awaken' in my review. Haha that's a good one!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:02:39 GMT
Yep. And I just wish people would finally understand that movies and video games are not the same. Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. And where ´ s the fun in that?  Hating and shitposting obviously makes certain people happy. I literally read posts from people who said they hate Andromeda despite the fact they never even played it ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:04:00 GMT
Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. And where ´ s the fun in that? Hating and shitposting obviously makes certain people happy. I literally read posts from people who said they hate Andromeda despite the fact they never even played it ... I saw that too lol it's just more proof that actual ME fans are the minority to the majority of bandwagon jumpers. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 23, 2017 20:06:02 GMT
Yep. And I just wish people would finally understand that movies and video games are not the same. Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. The problem is it's making a large portion of fans unhappy... So it's not doing its job by that definition. A lot of the haters will leave for other games, impacting sales, impacting future DLC and sequels. And golly gee, look whats happening! Edmonton is working on Anthem - theyre looking at that franchise as a ten-year thing, like Destiny, so they won't make the next ME. Montreal has proven they can't, and Austin is working on other projects - who do you think is going to be making DLC and sequels? |
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Post by colfoley on Jun 23, 2017 20:06:36 GMT
As far as the sws prequels are concerned...well I've never seen a bad sws movie.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 23, 2017 20:07:21 GMT
Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. The problem is it's making a large portion of fans unhappy... So it's not doing its job by that definition. A lot of the haters will leave for other games, impacting sales, impacting future DLC and sequels. And golly gee, look whats happening! Edmonton is working on Anthem - theyre looking at that franchise as a ten-year thing, like Destiny, so they won't make the next ME. Montreal has proven they can't, and Austin is working on other projects - who do you think is going to be making DLC and sequels? montreal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:07:32 GMT
Yeah no kidding lol but hey as long as we love MEA, that's what counts! The game is meant to make the consumer happy and if it doesn't, play a game that makes you happy. The problem is it's making a large portion of fans unhappy... So it's not doing its job by that definition. A lot of the haters will leave for other games, impacting sales, impacting future DLC and sequels. And golly gee, look whats happening! Edmonton is working on Anthem - theyre looking at that franchise as a ten-year thing, like Destiny, so they won't make the next ME. Montreal has proven they can't, and Austin is working on other projects - who do you think is going to be making DLC and sequels? You mean the successful amount of money the game made that's pleased EA? Look I get it. You hate the game and want it to fail. I don't. We'll never agree on any of this, so I'm just gong to end this convo. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 23, 2017 20:09:35 GMT
Is this really the argument against it? It had multiple edits? Anyway, if MEA has more than 1 singleplayer DLC, then you're right. But it won't. Wait, now it's more than 1 campaign DLC? I thought it was there is no DLC coming? The article author even made that statement on Reddit. Can't move the goal posts now. All the detractors planted their flag on the premise that MEA was shelved. I always said I believe MEA would get at least one SP DLC, I even mentioned DS3 as an example. And what Jason Schreier said on Reddit is that he doesn't believe there will be a major DLC, but he made clear that that was an opinion, as he didn't have enough information to know that. Before that I was sure MEA would get at least 1 DLC, not I'm not. But I still believe it will. |
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