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Post by Furisco on Jun 25, 2017 7:34:10 GMT
Dude it's MP, gonna be soulless. Like the whole gameplay ad was "go get these lying assholes I sent beyond the wall and rescue them." Frankly they aren't worth the effort in my "action RPG"--let them die. Demo over. The irony.
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Post by warrior on Jun 25, 2017 7:45:02 GMT
Like the whole gameplay ad was "go get these lying assholes I sent beyond the wall and rescue them." Frankly they aren't worth the effort in my "action RPG"--let them die. Demo over. The irony. Explain!
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Post by darkway1 on Jun 25, 2017 17:03:59 GMT
I think this game just needs people that can actually deliver a good Mass Effect game. I think you hit the nail on the head perfectly...... The team that created Andromeda did a good job of creating a multiplayer,3rd person shooter.........the lead writer comes from Halo4 and the development team earned their stripes via ME3 multiplayer. Problem being,Bioware built a fan base and a game back-catalogue based on story,characters and rpg game play..........it's really not hard to understand why fans are unhappy with Andromeda or news of Anthem.
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Post by thelonelypoet on Jun 25, 2017 20:28:40 GMT
I'd say they should just forget Andromeda. Most people already have, and many more will as time passes. Sad that game development is taking so long. I would like to have an answer for every single question Andromeda left unopened. I just tryed to start a new gameplay but as soon as our company were stuck on scourge (or whatever it was) I completely stopped my playing because I became so sad because seems like we never. Will. Find out how this story ends. It eats the motivation to play. I hope BioWare releases a book (title: Sorry) that explains the mysteries behind the benefactor, drell/quarian Ark, the origin of the scourge, the murder of the first leader (forgot her name) and as a personal bonus how to fly with a single shuttle from system to system. Even though I sound very bitter I did enjoy studying the planets. I also enjoyed Nomad.
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Post by thedarkprince on Jun 25, 2017 21:03:28 GMT
I've thought a good bit about whether or not I'm happy about Mass Effect being supposedly put on ice. It's obviously not official but it's easy to believe. I honestly think it is a good thing and I hope whatever team picks it up continues the MEA story. Considering Mass Effect especially MEA is at its core about space exploration with an engaging story/plot, I think it would benefit the series to wait until the technology is better to provide a true space game that takes the training wheels off. By training wheels I mean the limitations of exploration and semi on rails experience. I want the next game to fully allow me to control my space ship and fly between planets. I want to be able seemlessly travel between vast open alien wilderness to sprawling metropolises similar to how we can seemlessly do that in games like the Witcher 3 or Skyrim. I also want the technology to evolve enough to allow for more quantity with the same pedigree of quality that people came to expect after ME2. So basically, I am ok with waiting until the generation of hardware is released before we get another Mass Effect. And I think we'll get there in 5 or 6 years easily. I could be wrong but I think putting the series on ice is a goood thing We just had a 5 year break between ME3 and Andromeda. So if there is another 5 year break we will get 1 Mass Effect game in a decade. How the hell is that a good thing for fans of the series? Also I seriously doubt we get a Andromeda 2. Bioware and EA are already distancing themselves from the game. The next Mass Effect (if there ever is another) will probably be a legit reboot of the original trilogy, or at the very least set back in the Milky way. I doubt we ever see the Andromeda galaxy again.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 25, 2017 21:08:48 GMT
I'd say they should just forget Andromeda. Most people already have, and many more will as time passes. Sad that game development is taking so long. I would like to have an answer for every single question Andromeda left unopened. I just tryed to start a new gameplay but as soon as our company were stuck on scourge (or whatever it was) I completely stopped my playing because I became so sad because seems like we never. Will. Find out how this story ends. It eats the motivation to play. I hope BioWare releases a book (title: Sorry) that explains the mysteries behind the benefactor, drell/quarian Ark, the origin of the scourge, the murder of the first leader (forgot her name) and as a personal bonus how to fly with a single shuttle from system to system. Even though I sound very bitter I did enjoy studying the planets. I also enjoyed Nomad. Yeah I don't like being left hanging. I want to know what the deal is with the Quarian ark, I want to know what will become of Ellen Ryder, and in the long run I want to know how things will turn out in Helius. Will our ourposts that we establish turn into bustling propserous cities or will they flounder and struggle? Will the Angara and the MW species get along or will their be tension? Will there be exploration outside of Helius or will everyone stay close in and work on building up Helius? Just so much more I want to know. Don't know if we will ever know now.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 25, 2017 21:38:38 GMT
Sad that game development is taking so long. I would like to have an answer for every single question Andromeda left unopened. I just tryed to start a new gameplay but as soon as our company were stuck on scourge (or whatever it was) I completely stopped my playing because I became so sad because seems like we never. Will. Find out how this story ends. It eats the motivation to play. I hope BioWare releases a book (title: Sorry) that explains the mysteries behind the benefactor, drell/quarian Ark, the origin of the scourge, the murder of the first leader (forgot her name) and as a personal bonus how to fly with a single shuttle from system to system. Even though I sound very bitter I did enjoy studying the planets. I also enjoyed Nomad. Yeah I don't like being left hanging. I want to know what the deal is with the Quarian ark, I want to know what will become of Ellen Ryder, and in the long run I want to know how things will turn out in Helius. Will our ourposts that we establish turn into bustling propserous cities or will they flounder and struggle? Will the Angara and the MW species get along or will their be tension? Will there be exploration outside of Helius or will everyone stay close in and work on building up Helius? Just so much more I want to know. Don't know if we will ever know now. lots of speculation for everyone!
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Post by abaris on Jun 25, 2017 21:49:56 GMT
We just had a 5 year break between ME3 and Andromeda. So if there is another 5 year break we will get 1 Mass Effect game in a decade. How the hell is that a good thing for fans of the series? How would it be a good thing to get a bad or half baked game anytime sooner? Of course there will always be some being on their knees and praying to the gods of game creation for whatever carries the label of Mass Effect, however mediocre it turns out to be. But that's not what they should aim for, if they pick up the franchise again in the foreseeable future.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 26, 2017 0:09:04 GMT
Sad that game development is taking so long. I would like to have an answer for every single question Andromeda left unopened. I just tryed to start a new gameplay but as soon as our company were stuck on scourge (or whatever it was) I completely stopped my playing because I became so sad because seems like we never. Will. Find out how this story ends. It eats the motivation to play. I hope BioWare releases a book (title: Sorry) that explains the mysteries behind the benefactor, drell/quarian Ark, the origin of the scourge, the murder of the first leader (forgot her name) and as a personal bonus how to fly with a single shuttle from system to system. Even though I sound very bitter I did enjoy studying the planets. I also enjoyed Nomad. Yeah I don't like being left hanging. I want to know what the deal is with the Quarian ark, I want to know what will become of Ellen Ryder, and in the long run I want to know how things will turn out in Helius. Will our ourposts that we establish turn into bustling propserous cities or will they flounder and struggle? Will the Angara and the MW species get along or will their be tension? Will there be exploration outside of Helius or will everyone stay close in and work on building up Helius? Just so much more I want to know. Don't know if we will ever know now. yeah that's why I've still got my fingers crossed we still get some DLC. Obviously with every passing day it gets less and less likely but I'm still holding up hope that something is still coming our way.
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Post by ENGINEER_H4RR7 on Jun 26, 2017 1:25:09 GMT
Why does everyone act like this game shouldn't exist. The patches fixed many of the bugs and future once may still be fixed. Animations may look like plastic, but that is what you get when EA focus on Anthem. It is not the game I wanted, but it is still a fine game and the story was solid. I really want this to continue in 2019 or 2020, just don't want to wait for another 5+ years till the next Mass Effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 2:15:20 GMT
Yeah, 5 years was really good for MEA.
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Post by rapscallioness on Jun 26, 2017 4:28:17 GMT
Noooo! Shepard disapproves -100. Um, honestly, in my very humble opinion, I think they need to grab this horse by the mane, clamor back on and Ride! for all they're worth. heheh. But yeah. While it's fresh. Annd, well, I'm just gonna say it -- I think we need to go Home. Back to the Milky Way. I feel like that's where the story really is. Post Reaper invasion MW. I mean, I was down with trying out Andromeda, and I thought it was fun bit of romping, but I strongly feel like the Story that is screaming out comes from the MW. There were some interesting threads left dangling from MEA, but I feel like the post Reaper invasion MW would provide a more intense and interesting setting. I mean, it's a hot mess there right now..post ME3 ending and pre EC..it's anarchy. The societal infrastructure has been demolished. Vacuum of power. Which species fall? Which species rise? Which gangs, or criminal bosses, are making their moves. Going to Palaven. Going to Thessia, properly. Seeing places like these struggling in this post Reaper invasion setting. What we experienced of the MW was pretty glam, pretty clean...overall. Let's see it dirty, because I know it is now. It's a;ways like that when civilization breaks down. You don;t come out of something like that unscathed. It will never be the same, and that difference is interesting. A brand new PC working to navigate this new MW. this decidely very different, very dangerous MW. I know, I know Ending choices and all that, but they could bottleneck some stuff like Asimov said put together some "plausible gobbledygook", and get on with it already. That's what creative writers do, no? They find the angle and they make it work. Get us back into the setting, but the rest would stand on its own. Again, imho, that's where the story was, and still is. We need to go home. And it needs to be done in 3-3.5 years. Let people know within a year, and promote it in a reasonable way. Not hype-y marketing, but not gross negligent marketing, either. It just seems so obvious to me. It's a perfect setting for a game. All the conflict and whatnot baked right in already. so, yeah. edit: and for that matter, let's see earth, too, in this ME futuristic way..after the invasion no less. going to these places and dealing with this reality would be an awesome pseudo open world.
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Post by danishgambit on Jun 26, 2017 12:19:42 GMT
Well it's kinda sad and really only sends the message that twitch shooters with loot and casino-type addiction mechanics are the only way to make games if your company is on the tilt. Also I don't think EA puts anything on hold. To EA something is either relevant or irrelevant. I don't like Mass Effect's chances at all. Dragon Age is a thing I guess but EA is forcing them to use that terrible shoot-em-up Frostibite engine and I still have doubts that the writers will even be allowed to write anything that doesn't sound like a Saturday afternoon dudebro adventure movie with cardboard characters and black and white vilians. Solas is a good start though.
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Post by abaris on Jun 26, 2017 12:35:59 GMT
Well it's kinda sad and really only sends the message that twitch shooters with loot and casino-type addiction mechanics are the only way to make games if your company is on the tilt. It's not as if Bioware was the only RPG developer. There are quite a few who never deviated from their chosen path. Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but Obsidian or Larian stick out. Also Bethesda tried their hands at something like a real companion based RPG with FO4. Half assed attempt, sadly, but maybe they build on it with whatever game they're doing next.
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Post by derrame on Jun 26, 2017 13:27:37 GMT
yes, they take a 5 years break, and then they develop MEA2 exactly as bad as MEA, with the same flaws and sjw propaganda and boring fetch quests and dull lifeless maps and an extremely simple story
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Post by abaris on Jun 26, 2017 13:48:32 GMT
yes, they take a 5 years break, and then they develop MEA2 exactly as bad as MEA, with the same flaws and sjw propaganda and boring fetch quests and dull lifeless maps and an extremely simple story So why do you play Bioware games? If they're all about SJW propaganda, there's an easy way to avoid it. Don't tell anyone, since we would lose that anti SJW warrior amusement, but you could simply refrain from buying their games.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 27, 2017 16:40:24 GMT
Noooo! Shepard disapproves -100. Um, honestly, in my very humble opinion, I think they need to grab this horse by the mane, clamor back on and Ride! for all they're worth. heheh. But yeah. While it's fresh. Annd, well, I'm just gonna say it -- I think we need to go Home. Back to the Milky Way. I feel like that's where the story really is. Post Reaper invasion MW. I mean, I was down with trying out Andromeda, and I thought it was fun bit of romping, but I strongly feel like the Story that is screaming out comes from the MW. There were some interesting threads left dangling from MEA, but I feel like the post Reaper invasion MW would provide a more intense and interesting setting. I mean, it's a hot mess there right now..post ME3 ending and pre EC..it's anarchy. The societal infrastructure has been demolished. Vacuum of power. Which species fall? Which species rise? Which gangs, or criminal bosses, are making their moves. Going to Palaven. Going to Thessia, properly. Seeing places like these struggling in this post Reaper invasion setting. What we experienced of the MW was pretty glam, pretty clean...overall. Let's see it dirty, because I know it is now. It's a;ways like that when civilization breaks down. You don;t come out of something like that unscathed. It will never be the same, and that difference is interesting. A brand new PC working to navigate this new MW. this decidely very different, very dangerous MW. I know, I know Ending choices and all that, but they could bottleneck some stuff like Asimov said put together some "plausible gobbledygook", and get on with it already. That's what creative writers do, no? They find the angle and they make it work. Get us back into the setting, but the rest would stand on its own. Again, imho, that's where the story was, and still is. We need to go home. And it needs to be done in 3-3.5 years. Let people know within a year, and promote it in a reasonable way. Not hype-y marketing, but not gross negligent marketing, either. It just seems so obvious to me. It's a perfect setting for a game. All the conflict and whatnot baked right in already. so, yeah. edit: and for that matter, let's see earth, too, in this ME futuristic way..after the invasion no less. going to these places and dealing with this reality would be an awesome pseudo open world. I want to see a post reaper war milky way as well. I don't care if they have to canonize one of the endings to do it for continuity's sake.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 27, 2017 17:13:45 GMT
Why does everyone act like this game shouldn't exist. The patches fixed many of the bugs and future once may still be fixed. Animations may look like plastic, but that is what you get when EA focus on Anthem. It is not the game I wanted, but it is still a fine game and the story was solid. I really want this to continue in 2019 or 2020, just don't want to wait for another 5+ years till the next Mass Effect. Can't patch the story or characters.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 27, 2017 17:52:55 GMT
The fact Anthem got an impressive reveal gameplay trailer during E3, and Mass Effect Andromeda had one a few months before release, says a lot regarding EA's faith in the game, man - I can't even understand that hell that must have been development.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 27, 2017 18:06:17 GMT
I was all for the 5 year break that they took after the trilogy ended. That was a good time to take a break. I sure wish they had used that time better but that's a different story. I don't think now is a great time for another break. IMO Andromeda, with all it's problems and issues is a great foundation to build a new game on fairly quickly. To me, Andromeda's problems are mostly content related. The story was medicore (not bad but not great either). The characters were bland and either uninteresting or stupid and irritating. The worlds needed more complexity to them and less repitition. The endless fetch quests and filler content were horrible. Everything was way to spread out and the worlds were too few, too big and visually too uninteresting (desserts almost all of them). But this is all stuff that was specific content in this particular game, this particular iteration. The gameplay was fun, the combat works well, the item system with all the modding and crafting is fairly intricate (though the UI needs improvement, a lot of improvement). The basic visuals in the new engine are great. The Nomad is fun to drive. The scanner - though overused - was a fun element with quite a bit of potential. The story also left more than enough room for expansion. So why would they take another 5 years? IMO, all they need to do is take the game they've got, tweak it a little here and ther and add better content. Write a better story and more interesting characters. Focus on pacing and getting more variety into the content, both visually and in terms of quest design. Make more and more interesting (and maybe smaller) worlds. You've got the framework for the game, now pure money into asset and content creation and into more polish. With a decent pace, they could easily release a great ME:A2 if they were just building on what they've got. From all the rumors we hear, it may be that EA in it's infinite wisdom does not see that (because they focus only on the bad overall reception without analyzing the underlying reasons for it) but in principle, I think now is not the time to start from scratch again.
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Post by SwobyJ on Jun 27, 2017 18:46:56 GMT
I don't expect to wait over 5 years.
I expect to wait 4-5 (instead of a previously more possible 2-3), or really maybe never see it again.
It can very well go 2018 Anthem, 2019 Dragon Age, 2020-2022 Mass Effect, and that they're just decidedly focusing resources (more than maybe otherwise) on Edmonton projects for now. This may be on the tail end of this weird version of a console cycle and we carry on.
But sure its possible, and more possible than before, that they go over 5 years (eh), or the series is just done (sigh).
Tune may change if we indeed get SP DLC, more real confirmation of a film in the next year or two, and more positive speaking of ME prospects in the next year or two.
I just don't expect to see a new game in 2018-2019. And duh to 2018, and eh fine to 2019. I'd love 2020 (2021?) and really I don't think they need to revolutionize much (maybe make some scrapped concepts work, like ship travel?) but instead market on how it is a product of polish polish polish.
After Anthem and especially DA4 we'll potentially have a much clearer view of this.
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