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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 7, 2017 19:00:24 GMT
Second, we have the DAI example. It sold very well, had a good receptionI don't know if I can accurately equate DAI with MEA, but the forums were a mess when DAI was released. Many bugs, "the game is too big", "I didn't pay for open world", "Why do the Hinterlands suck so bad" etc. I know that the external reaction was much better, but I still recall a high degree of Complainy McComplainyPants after release. And then a lot of anxiety about how well it sold, just like now. So there's literally no way to know if it has legs. I'd say many of the people on this forum are still playing, and if they're not playing they're invested enough to buy and play a DLC. The standard McplainyPants in the forums is pretty much standard, so that's why I didn't mention it. I still remember the trolls arguing that even though the critical reception for the game was good that "didn't make it a good game" - it's those same folks who are now using the lower critical response to Andromeda to reinforce their "it's a dumpster fire" opinions. My point was that by Bioware's standards, the critical score and the sales, it would have been justified to immediately launch into DA4. I think there's more going on behind the scenes, however, and they had long-range plans to integrate the DA series into a rotation with ME and Anthem releases.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 7, 2017 19:04:31 GMT
Second, we have the DAI example. It sold very well, had a good receptionI don't know if I can accurately equate DAI with MEA, but the forums were a mess when DAI was released. Many bugs, "the game is too big", "I didn't pay for open world", "Why do the Hinterlands suck so bad" etc. I know that the external reaction was much better, but I still recall a high degree of Complainy McComplainyPants after release. And then a lot of anxiety about how well it sold, just like now. So there's literally no way to know if it has legs. I'd say many of the people on this forum are still playing, and if they're not playing they're invested enough to buy and play a DLC. ... where you can play on your own but you can call in friends and have them drop in and out of the game. That's why I have EVE Online. I'll just go back to that when I'm done with Andromeda. (And it doesn't look like I'll be done with Andromeda anytime soon. Sorry, dudes in my corp!) On the earnings call after DA:I was released, they actually said that DA:I had the best opening for a Bioware game ever, based on units sold.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 19:06:52 GMT
Second, we have the DAI example. It sold very well, had a good receptionI don't know if I can accurately equate DAI with MEA, but the forums were a mess when DAI was released. Many bugs, "the game is too big", "I didn't pay for open world", "Why do the Hinterlands suck so bad" etc. I know that the external reaction was much better, but I still recall a high degree of Complainy McComplainyPants after release. And then a lot of anxiety about how well it sold, just like now. So there's literally no way to know if it has legs. I'd say many of the people on this forum are still playing, and if they're not playing they're invested enough to buy and play a DLC. ... where you can play on your own but you can call in friends and have them drop in and out of the game. That's why I have EVE Online. I'll just go back to that when I'm done with Andromeda. (And it doesn't look like I'll be done with Andromeda anytime soon. Sorry, dudes in my corp!) I remember around the time mass effect 3 came out people thought the extended cut would never release. Biowares games always seem to make people paranoid whenever they release. I like inquisition but to me its not as good as dragon age II (fight me) it can feel kind of bloated sometimes but it a fuckin long game and I have the dlcs to make it even longer. I should back and finish it one of these days. Also lucky you =P
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 7, 2017 19:07:20 GMT
I think there's more going on behind the scenes, however, and they had long-range plans to integrate the DA series into a rotation with ME and Anthem releases. That's what makes the most sense to me. ME, next up is Anthem, after that is DA4, and then ME again. Rinse, repeat.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 7, 2017 19:08:01 GMT
On the earnings call after DA:I was released, they actually said that DA:I had the best opening for a Bioware game ever, based on units sold. Yes, they did.
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Post by snuggels on Jul 7, 2017 19:57:43 GMT
Honestly, i`m not interested in Anthem, i dont like Multiplayer/Online Games
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 7, 2017 20:35:21 GMT
Did the EC fix the ending? That's news to me. I'll take your word on it. Well, I can't speak for whatever arbitrary criteria you're no doubt going to come up with for hating the ending, but in terms of answering the reason for any boycott... yup. sigh 2/10 trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:38:18 GMT
I think there's more going on behind the scenes, however, and they had long-range plans to integrate the DA series into a rotation with ME and Anthem releases. That's what makes the most sense to me. ME, next up is Anthem, after that is DA4, and then ME again. Rinse, repeat. Ah, if only they could insert JE2 there. (Sigh dreamily).
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 7, 2017 20:40:10 GMT
Second, we have the DAI example. It sold very well, had a good receptionI don't know if I can accurately equate DAI with MEA, but the forums were a mess when DAI was released. Many bugs, "the game is too big", "I didn't pay for open world", "Why do the Hinterlands suck so bad" etc. I know that the external reaction was much better, but I still recall a high degree of Complainy McComplainyPants after release. And then a lot of anxiety about how well it sold, just like now. So there's literally no way to know if it has legs. I'd say many of the people on this forum are still playing, and if they're not playing they're invested enough to buy and play a DLC. This. Honestly, aside from the review scores (which are only between 5-10% less), the complaints I'm hearing about MEA are broadly the same as DAI. Well, maybe not about the lack of armour this time round.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:44:07 GMT
I don't know if I can accurately equate DAI with MEA, but the forums were a mess when DAI was released. Many bugs, "the game is too big", "I didn't pay for open world", "Why do the Hinterlands suck so bad" etc. I know that the external reaction was much better, but I still recall a high degree of Complainy McComplainyPants after release. And then a lot of anxiety about how well it sold, just like now. So there's literally no way to know if it has legs. I'd say many of the people on this forum are still playing, and if they're not playing they're invested enough to buy and play a DLC. This. Honestly, aside from the review scores (which are only between 5-10% less), the complaints I'm hearing about MEA are broadly the same as DAI. Well, maybe not about the lack of armour this time round. I love both andromeda and inquisition but both games need better quest design. Too many samey fetch quests. Even though it does give an excuse to explore more.
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Post by Artemis on Jul 7, 2017 20:46:23 GMT
For me, MEA was so bad I'm not really (personally) interested in any DLC.
And since Anthem is being made by a different team (not the awful MEA team), then I wouldn't hold MEA against Anthem. So if Anthem looks good, sure, I'd get it.
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Post by The Twilight God on Jul 7, 2017 21:47:20 GMT
Considering how butthurt you sound it must be 10/10. And that's without even trying. It amazes me that people still get angry because a stranger on the internet posts something they disagree with. Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 3:10:41 GMT
Isn't biodrone the term for Bioware fans? Ok either you are joking or you are not. Let's say you are not joking, Biodrone is a pejorative term made to insult bioware fans. Its in the roots of the fucking word. So if you don't want people to feel insulted or attack, don't use it. Just to clarify. My understanding of the word Biodrone is somewhere along the lines of "I will buy anything Bioware even if they murder my puppy." That's the context of the definition.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 8, 2017 3:20:54 GMT
Just to clarify. My understanding of the word Biodrone is somewhere along the lines of "I will buy anything Bioware even if they murder my puppy." That's the context of the definition. And the bolded part is why it's considered a pejorative. I'm not sure how you don't understand that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 3:26:08 GMT
Just to clarify. My understanding of the word Biodrone is somewhere along the lines of "I will buy anything Bioware even if they murder my puppy." That's the context of the definition. And the bolded part is why it's considered a pejorative. I'm not sure how you don't understand that. Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example).
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Post by outlaw1109 on Jul 8, 2017 3:26:23 GMT
Over three million in the first month. Second fastest-selling entry in the series. Sorry to burst your bubble. Mass Effect 3 was the fastest. It's funny...people say that Andromeda will be the end of Bioware...but....2.67 million (VG charts sales figures, first month) x $60.00 = something to the tune of $160m. And I'm pretty sure that $160m pays everyone's salary. Given that the original TWO ME games only sold somewhere in the neighborhood of the hundreds of thousands, I'd say Bioware is actually doing much better.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 8, 2017 3:30:05 GMT
And the bolded part is why it's considered a pejorative. I'm not sure how you don't understand that. Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 3:31:32 GMT
Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example). Point of the gif?
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Post by malgus on Jul 8, 2017 3:32:05 GMT
And the bolded part is why it's considered a pejorative. I'm not sure how you don't understand that. Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example). This is totally unrelated, we were explaining to twilight god why "Biodrone" is a pejorative and insulting words, the fact that you don't like what Bioware is doing for the past 7 years is not related to the previous statement. Criticize bioware if you want, but that was not the point here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 3:34:07 GMT
Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example). This is totally unrelated, we were explaining to twilight god why "Biodrone" is a pejorative and insulting words, the fact that you don't like what Bioware is doing for the past 7 years is not related to the previous statement. Criticize bioware if you want, but that was not the point here. I quoted the wrong person at the time of responding. Response was meant for Twilight.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 8, 2017 3:35:09 GMT
And the bolded part is why it's considered a pejorative. I'm not sure how you don't understand that. Still doesn't make the claim any less legitimate. BioWare has made questionable decisions that are pissing off their loyal fanbase going on for at least 7 years (Dragon Age 2 being the start). Capcom was no different as far as Japanese companies go (i.e. The declining quality of Resident Evil as an example). How about this: when Bioware starts making games I don't want to play, I won't buy them. I'm pretty sure that's how it works for other consumers too. I'm not sure why you think DA2 is a good example, because there are a lot of people who had a great time as Hawke, and I'm one of them. Yes, it could have been better, but it's not like they delivered it to my doorstep on fire and in a bag filled with poo. edit: And dammit, three people have already responded. Fine, but my point still stands.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 8, 2017 3:35:40 GMT
I think there's more going on behind the scenes, however, and they had long-range plans to integrate the DA series into a rotation with ME and Anthem releases. That's what makes the most sense to me. ME, next up is Anthem, after that is DA4, and then ME again. Rinse, repeat. No Monica21. That makes way too much common sense. There is a reason something has to be wrong with BioWare. There has to be a reason to be maudlin. There has to be a reason to keep kicking a dead horse. However... for the life of me... I can't see those reasons. There is NOTHING to suggest that BioWare is not going to deliver. NOTHING. Except unnamed sources or whatever the hell it is. If it makes sense to insiders or you know... people with lots of money called investers... want to keep their IP at the highest value. Mistakes are made. We're only human after all... am I making any sense? BioWare is very capable of fixing their mistakes and they stumbled a few times under new management. It happens everywhere. I've lost my cool trying to explain why Andromeda was so dang frustrating. I couldn't come up with the solution 10 hours in. I needed to find what works and where's that hook when I'm Ryder. Once Patch 1.05 came along, I was Ryder. Then I noticed more glitches and they were not game-breaking before 1.05, but still numerous enough to make me yell aloud, "WTF!?! WTF! THIS IS A F*** STRESS TEST AND I AM FAILING." Then 1.08 comes out and my friend Paul is hooked into Andromeda. Bragging how much fun he's having with my birthday gift. He's hooked and I'm out of the good stuff. Good for F***ing him. Anyway, I see nothing but agitation to kick someone in the balls and I get that. A few other posters here took notice and called me out. Self-awareness kicked in. I hope it kicks in for a few others.
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