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Post by colfoley on Jul 2, 2017 6:07:04 GMT
Hey biofan. By the way good to see you again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 6:09:25 GMT
If that wasn't going on, then I would worry a bit, but it's one of the things that makes me think there's still hope. To me, it makes a lot of sense as a possibility... If the studio can't record, then they scale back the studio to stop the "bleed" in salaries until they know they can get back to work. Also, it would make more sense to me if they just cut the budget down for the DLC rather than cut the DLC entirely. That way, they still put out something, but a cheaper something than they would have done if ME:A had sold as well as they anticipated. That way, they "save face" somewhat with the fans without breaking the bank. I would guess it doesn't affect Tom and Nyasha since they recorded the Scott/Jaal romance for patch 1.08.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 2, 2017 6:10:11 GMT
If that wasn't going on, then I would worry a bit, but it's one of the things that makes me think there's still hope. To me, it makes a lot of sense as a possibility... If the studio can't record, then they scale back the studio to stop the "bleed" in salaries until they know they can get back to work. I didn't know there was a strike on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 6:12:16 GMT
To me, it makes a lot of sense as a possibility... If the studio can't record, then they scale back the studio to stop the "bleed" in salaries until they know they can get back to work. I didn't know there was a strike on. For 2 years roughly.
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To me, it makes a lot of sense as a possibility... If the studio can't record, then they scale back the studio to stop the "bleed" in salaries until they know they can get back to work. I didn't know there was a strike on. Yeah I thought it finished.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 2, 2017 6:13:40 GMT
Jennifer Hale has been.out of work for two years...kind of funny when you think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 6:16:35 GMT
Jennifer Hale has been.out of work for two years...kind of funny when you think about it. She's coming to our annual convention in August (Fan Expo) along with Troy Baker, Nolan North and David Hayter.
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Jennifer Hale has been.out of work for two years...kind of funny when you think about it. Actually, she's been working per her IMDB page. She just did some work for some cartoons and some games with Blizzard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 6:28:37 GMT
It makes zero sense from a business standpoint to kill a brand you've cultivated for over a decade for something new with no fan base that won't be out for over a year. There is nothing in the pipeline for BioWare until fall '18. Check out their main store and it's dominated by Mass Effect products including new stuff for Andromeda each month. There are novels, comics, loot crates, etc. Leaving a gigantic hole in the schedule while killing a performing brand is bad business In another thread I said this already, but I'll say it here. It worked for Ubisoft. They switched from Prince of Persia and its platforming, which hit a major roadbump with the 2008 reboot, to Assassin's Creed and its open-world, stealth, ship battles, and more. Maybe Ubi didn't know AC would succeed massively, but AC did and PoP got replaced. Not saying Anthem will hit a home run, but if it doesn't, what do you think it will mean for Bioware in the context of all the other companies EA has acquired? There's a meme about this. Nobody should be rooting for Anthem to fail, even if Anthem ultimately replaces Mass Effect. Bio still has Dragon Age and Star Wars to continue. So. Also, as BioFan indicated, MEA didn't meet EA's sales expectations. It must've been much lower than expected for EA not to even state a number. The silver lining is Capcom's Resident Evil 6, which also failed to meet sales expectations by about 2 million. Yet, a Resident Evil 7 got made and has done fairly well, although it, too, didn't meet sales expectations. Yet again, Capcom is optimistic about its overall sales over its lifetime. That makes me think sales expectations isn't the be-all, end-all for a game, especially if expectations are artificially high and can't be reliably banked on, and if the game continues to sell over time. Is MEA such a game, especially as word gets out that all the patches have completed?
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 2, 2017 6:44:29 GMT
I don't think the voice actor strike is going to end anytime soon, since they won't talk what publishers have agreed with them and that list that is represented by that lawfirm represents two of the biggest US based publishers I don't see a lot of pressure being put on them. Edit: As far as I can tell the voice actors have only been on strike since October 2016. Edit #2: I was wrong about the year it was 2015 the strike started, I read an article incorrectly.
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Post by Fredward on Jul 2, 2017 6:45:23 GMT
Hasn't Hale been involved with the VA strike? In which case she probably wouldn't take any jobs and it wouldn't be surprising if her stock tanked a bit afterwards.
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Post by samhain444 on Jul 2, 2017 6:45:50 GMT
It makes zero sense from a business standpoint to kill a brand you've cultivated for over a decade for something new with no fan base that won't be out for over a year. There is nothing in the pipeline for BioWare until fall '18. Check out their main store and it's dominated by Mass Effect products including new stuff for Andromeda each month. There are novels, comics, loot crates, etc. Leaving a gigantic hole in the schedule while killing a performing brand is bad business In another thread I said this already, but I'll say it here. It worked for Ubisoft. They switched from Prince of Persia and its platforming, which hit a major roadbump with the 2008 reboot, to Assassin's Creed and its open-world, stealth, ship battles, and more. Maybe Ubi didn't know AC would succeed massively, but AC did and PoP got replaced. Not saying Anthem will hit a home run, but if it doesn't, what do you think it will mean for Bioware in the context of all the other companies EA has acquired? There's a meme about this. Nobody should be rooting for Anthem to fail, even if Anthem ultimately replaces Mass Effect. Bio still has Dragon Age and Star Wars to continue. So. Also, as BioFan indicated, MEA didn't meet EA's sales expectations. It must've been much lower than expected for EA not to even state a number. The silver lining is Capcom's Resident Evil 6, which also failed to meet sales expectations by about 2 million. Yet, a Resident Evil 7 got made and has done fairly well, although it, too, didn't meet sales expectations. Yet again, Capcom is optimistic about its overall sales over its lifetime. That makes me think sales expectations isn't the be-all, end-all for a game, especially if expectations are artificially high and can't be reliably banked on, and if the game continues to sell over time. Is MEA such a game, especially as word gets out that all the patches have completed? Literally, no one, besides the good folks at EA/BioWare, know what ME:A sold. Even the source BioFan was using for the sales numbers don't include Origin digital sales figures because EA won't release them. I think BioWare needs new IPs in different genres so they can diversify so I'm fine with Anthem, just not a lot of interest in it.
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I don't think the voice actor strike is going to end anytime soon, since they won't talk what publishers have agreed with them and that list that is represented by that lawfirm represents two of the biggest US based publishers I don't see a lot of pressure being put on them. Yeah it's not looking good. MEA was exempt, but DLC could easily be affected by this. Sometimes I wonder if that's the real reason Anthem was delayed until Fall 2018.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 2, 2017 6:49:52 GMT
I don't think the voice actor strike is going to end anytime soon, since they won't talk what publishers have agreed with them and that list that is represented by that lawfirm represents two of the biggest US based publishers I don't see a lot of pressure being put on them. Yeah it's not looking good. MEA was exempt, but DLC could easily be affected by this. Sometimes I wonder if that's the real reason Anthem was delayed until Fall 2018. I cannot find the articles, but when they went on strike there was information that if there was a contract signed for a game the voice work would continue. That is why we as consumers haven't seen too much of a shift in production since the strike started. I would expect there might be another year or so of games that have voice contracts.
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Yeah it's not looking good. MEA was exempt, but DLC could easily be affected by this. Sometimes I wonder if that's the real reason Anthem was delayed until Fall 2018. I cannot find the articles, but when they went on strike there was information that if there was a contract signed for a game the voice work would continue. That is why we as consumers haven't seen too much of a shift in production since the strike started. I would expect there might be another year or so of games that have voice contracts. If it doesn't end by then, it won't be pretty.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 2, 2017 6:58:01 GMT
I cannot find the articles, but when they went on strike there was information that if there was a contract signed for a game the voice work would continue. That is why we as consumers haven't seen too much of a shift in production since the strike started. I would expect there might be another year or so of games that have voice contracts. If it doesn't end by then, it won't be pretty. First I was wrong above, the strike started October 2015. Here is a quote I found. And the article liked above indicates none of these publishers have a deal with the union yet. So it seems they have made agreements with publishers that they aren't striking against. So Depending on development cycles and how they might not push development for some games longer so they keep having titles to release such as Anthem. It might go longer or they can look at alternates such as focusing on games with no voice acting of hiring people to cross the lines which does happen with strikes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 7:00:58 GMT
If it doesn't end by then, it won't be pretty. First I was wrong above, the strike started October 2015. Here is a quote I found. And the article liked above indicates none of these publishers have a deal with the union yet. So it seems they have made agreements with publishers that they aren't striking against. So Depending on development cycles and how they might not push development for some games longer so they keep having titles to release such as Anthem. It might go longer or they can look at alternates such as focusing on games with no voice acting of hiring people to cross the lines which does happen with strikes. Yeah I thought it was 2 years. This is starting to make sense.
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Post by gamersglory on Jul 2, 2017 7:15:35 GMT
Still too soon and one Kotaku "Writer" is not enough info to go on as a source. The fact that other Game Newz sites just copy and pasting his story. The part of the team that moved over to Motive are there to help knock out SW Battlefront 2's Single Player Campaign. That game is slated for November and they have to get that game right the first time as they pay big money to Disney and Disney can pull the license if the game sucks so once the Single player campaign is done that team will be free to move back across the hall to do ME: A DLC so might not get any till next year
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How is it possible that I've come home to another thread on this.
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Post by nxp5 on Jul 2, 2017 9:23:11 GMT
I think the Kotaku MEA development issues article is pretty much spot on. While I believe post release always a lot of MEA staff would have been reassigned to other EA/BW games anyway, BW Montreal also paid the price for their total sum of MEA work and the whole EA/BW mismanagement. Whether that is fair or not is not the question. It's good to see you around Biofan. I honestly missed your vids and thoughts on MEA after it's launch. While I'm hoping for MEA SP DLC (Quarian Ark, Benefactor, Jardaan/Scourge, Ellen Ryder etc.) I think N7 day will give us a definitive answer one way or the other, if nothing has been announced before by EA/BW. Until either happens, I hope rational and cooler heads will prevail without further damaging ME. What I loved about MEA: Jump Jets, freely choose your skills if you want to, combat, the Asteroid mission with much less gravity, Kallo Jath, Drack and Dr. Lexi. What I disliked about MEA: bugs preventing me from completing (side) missions, enemies getting stuck outside of the game area forcing a game reload, Ryder turning invisible, those terrible face graphics/animations, no SAM mute button and too little alien/worlds diversity. Most of those issues have hopefully been patch fixed by now, so now come the issues of an uneven story as well as hit and miss characters, all of which could be improved greatly by SP DLC. The only reason I still have MEA on my console is the potential SP DLC and until such arrives I won't play it again.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 2, 2017 9:47:55 GMT
The sales numbers are hard to get a good grasp on this far after release. It sold within the top 5 games of March/April. Its sales then were about a third of what EA anticipated. a third? Thats new. I thought ea was expecting 3-5 million copies sold and that mea sold just over 2 million from physical copies alone. EA expected 3 million copies across all platforms. Over 2 million physical copies were sold, while unknown number of digital copies. But according to this, just about few weeks ago 1,45 million of XBOX One users owned ME:A. Considering PS4 has much larger playerbase, as well a lot of X360 users switched to PS4, and PC version of ME:A likely sold as much as XBOX One version( just dominantly on digital stores), it is very likely ME:A sold about 4 to 5 million copies within first 3 months. And that was before any major EA's sanctioned sales. Which means, ME:A earned around 240 to 300 million dollars with 40 million budget of development. Approximating to 60 dollars full price range of standard edition, as many people either bought standard version somewhere on minor sale while other bought Digital Deluxe version that is more costly, even when on sale. For a game that had rather modest marketing, that quite the success.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 2, 2017 10:28:09 GMT
a third? Thats new. I thought ea was expecting 3-5 million copies sold and that mea sold just over 2 million from physical copies alone. EA expected 3 million copies across all platforms. Over 2 million physical copies were sold, while unknown number of digital copies. But according to this, just about few weeks ago 1,45 million of XBOX One users owned ME:A. Considering PS4 has much larger playerbase, as well a lot of X360 users switched to PS4, and PC version of ME:A likely sold as much as XBOX One version( just dominantly on digital stores), it is very likely ME:A sold about 4 to 5 million copies within first 3 months. And that was before any major EA's sanctioned sales. Which means, ME:A earned around 240 to 300 million dollars with 40 million budget of development. Approximating to 60 dollars full price range of standard edition, as many people either bought standard version somewhere on minor sale while other bought Digital Deluxe version that is more costly, even when on sale. For a game that had rather modest marketing, that quite the success. You're basing this off of a Reddit report, relaying an Ars Technica report, featuring "a sample of 113k players, between May 25 and May 27, 2017" which they then extrapolate to assume the data is representative of the main userbase... That's reaching pretty hard......VGchartz would be a much more accurate alternative:PS4: 0.97m XBone: 0.53m PC: 0.10m For a grand total of... 1.6m + digital. So,, very unlikely to have sold 4-5 million within 3 months. Even more accurate - based on NPD Data:March - Andromeda 3rd best-selling game. Second place Zelda sold ~ 1.3m based on Switch sales (where Zelda sold 1:1 with the system. So Andromeda is under 1.3m. April - Andromeda is 7th best-selling game. May - Andromeda is 15th best-selling game. June - Andromeda is outside of the top 20. So probably around 1m in March - way less in April, lets be generous and say 750k. Way less in May, lets be generous and say 250k. That's 2m total sales. NPD INCLUDEs PS4 and Xbox digital sales, just not Origin sales. So 2m + Origin sales. Mass Effect Andromeda MIGHT have sold 3m at this rate, total, up to the current date. And these estimates are based on actual data from VG and NPD, NOT a 3 day sample of 113k players. TLDR - Game sold very poorly - selling in it's first 3-4 months what EA was expecting it to sell in its first week. The game has no legs - at this rate it'll be lucky to sell 100k in July. It's dead. That's why there's no DLC. And that's quite the failure.
Edit: Andromeda was also 25-35% off across multiple platforms 2 days after release, so don't bother trying to further extrapolate from Ars's 3 days sample based on full price sales. Furthermore, that 40m was the development budget, NOT the marketing budget. EA has previously said that the marketing budget for games is 2-3x the development budget. You do the math.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 2, 2017 10:33:44 GMT
suikoden VGchartz doesn't include digital sales, while NPD only speculates on digital sales. Microsoft and Sony do not give them any sales data. Also that sale 2 days after release was a bug. Enough with your conspiracy theories.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 2, 2017 10:47:23 GMT
suikoden VGchartz doesn't include digital sales, while NPD only speculates on digital sales. Microsoft and Sony do not give them any sales data. Also that sale 2 days after release was a bug. Enough with your conspiracy theories. They're more accurate than a 3 day sample of 113k users. If you refuse to take into account VGChartz or NPD data, both of which have been doing this for years - while heralding a 3 day sample from a non-gaming website... then i don't know what to tell you because you have incredibly thick rose-tinted glasses on.
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