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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jul 30, 2017 1:39:51 GMT
I'm well aware of that. I don't like her voice. I hated it in Fallout and I hate it even more in MEA. So spare me the crybaby bitch routine. Actually you seem more upset about Suvi's accent, going so far to be inflammatory by calling it abnormal. So who is crying, really? It's exaggerated and overdone. Kind of like how Sofia Vergara is an exaggerated mexican accent. That isn't normal.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 30, 2017 1:39:52 GMT
I was wondering when Politic Thread Trolls™ would be here :poop: Oh boy! So first I'm told I don't matter, and then I'm told I'm a troll (twice)! So much for being open minded...
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Post by Dirk on Jul 30, 2017 1:41:05 GMT
Even though with bi Jaal we still got the short end of the stick in comparison with other demographics (Gil and Reyes are still a joke), I have a squadmate now, that was my bare minimum and I'm still in this rainbow of happiness I feel really sorry for those that dont like aliens, I wish Bioware would have been more careful with those two humans. There is no excuse for some aspects in Gil and Reyes/MRyder romance, but I'd say having Jaal as another m/m option is refreshing since in ME:T we only had 2 humans (though Kaidan is still my favorite). I hope DA4 continues to have a more exotic LI for m/m romance. You know exactly what I mean.
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Post by normandy on Jul 30, 2017 1:43:47 GMT
Bi characters are great, but they should not be stand ins for gay and lesbian characters. Bi representation is not the same thing as gay representation, because if you haven't noticed, gay != bi. Especially since most bi characters we had predominantly display opposite-sex attraction making the bi representation pretty invisible, unless you actively search it out. Personally I could do with less games pandering to straight people. Representation only seems stupid, when you never had to go without. Great points. I think there are two topics at play: representation and romance. All-bi approach would be excellent for romance but it would be bad for representation. Meanwhile representing gay, lesbian, and straight characters would be that they cannot be romanced by all. The best way to go with this imo is to have a variety of lgbt characters along with straight characters while giving equal romance options, such as the 2/2/2 approach (with all options have more or less equal content). Edit: I forget to mention about another approach where all LIs are bi, but there are non-LI and plot-important characters that are lgbt. I think this is another way to have both great romance options and representation. I think 2/2/2 approach a bit harder for Bioware games if you also consider races. Someone would want alien, someone human, elf, dwarf, etc.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 30, 2017 1:45:09 GMT
Great points. I think there are two topics at play: representation and romance. All-bi approach would be excellent for romance but it would be bad for representation. Meanwhile representing gay, lesbian, and straight characters would be that they cannot be romanced by all. The best way to go with this imo is to have a variety of lgbt characters along with straight characters while giving equal romance options, such as the 2/2/2 approach (with all options have more or less equal content). Edit: I forget to mention about another approach where all LIs are bi, but there are non-LI and plot-important characters that are lgbt. I think this is another way to have both great romance options and representation. Yeah, I liked DAI's approach the best. Equal amount of choices, even representation. The 4 bi approach would be ok, if they actually acknowledged their sexualities and not leave it to meta knowledge. Fallout 4 was great for romance options, for example, but did nothing for representation. Until you romanced them with both protagonists there was no way of knowing that they're actually bisexual. Most people assumed they were straight (I saw a lot of people say that about Danse). I would be down for all bi approach if there were gays characters aside of the romanceable ones, and the last part is totally true. I mean we dont know for sure about non-romanceable sexualities, but we know that Vivi had a husband, Varric had a girlfriend... yada yada, but none of the non-romanceable companion characters have been lgbtq that we know about, it seems that is mandatory being romanceable to be lgbtq, and that is a wrong message to me. Six/four bi options with 3 /4 characters being gay/straight would be great for me!
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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 30, 2017 1:46:32 GMT
I think 2/2/2 approach a bit harder for Bioware games if you also consider races. Someone would want alien, someone human, elf, dwarf, etc. Even without sexualities, BW kinda forgets about that. We're 3 games in and we've never had a female Qunari companion, and only had a female Dwarf companion in a DLC.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 30, 2017 1:47:25 GMT
Even though with bi Jaal we still got the short end of the stick in comparison with other demographics (Gil and Reyes are still a joke), I have a squadmate now, that was my bare minimum and I'm still in this rainbow of happiness I feel really sorry for those that dont like aliens, I wish Bioware would have been more careful with those two humans. There is no excuse for some aspects in Gil and Reyes/MRyder romance, but I'd say having Jaal as another m/m option is refreshing since in ME:T we only had 2 humans (though Kaidan is still my favorite). I hope DA4 continues to have a more exotic LI for m/m romance. You know exactly what I mean.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 30, 2017 1:59:56 GMT
There is no excuse for some aspects in Gil and Reyes/MRyder romance, but I'd say having Jaal as another m/m option is refreshing since in ME:T we only had 2 humans (though Kaidan is still my favorite). I hope DA4 continues to have a more exotic LI for m/m romance. You know exactly what I mean. Hell yeah. It would take a miracle for that to happen though.
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Post by Dirk on Jul 30, 2017 2:04:35 GMT
I would be down for all bi approach if there were gays characters aside of the romanceable ones, and the last part is totally true. I mean we dont know for sure about non-romanceable sexualities, but we know that Vivi had a husband, Varric had a girlfriend... yada yada, but none of the non-romanceable companion characters have been lgbtq that we know about, it seems that is mandatory being romanceable to be lgbtq, and that is a wrong message to me. Six/four bi options with 3 /4 characters being gay/straight would be great for me! Oh yeah this is why I do not consider "Schrodinger sexuality" as a valid form of representation. I would love to see more gay characters that are in healthy relationships. Or bi characters that are in same-sex relationship as well. And then there are more broad questions of how to represent lgbt characters. How much should such character reveal about their sexuality? How much of their stories in a game should be related to their sexuality? Because gay people come in a variety similar to straight people, I would say that the same should go for representation. Some gay characters will not reveal their sexuality easily, but others will tell you very quickly (and some others are along the spectrum). Some characters are like Dorian, where his sexuality plays an important role. Some may not. This is why I always support more lgbt characters in general because there are more than one ways to represent them! My favorite gay LI that I have not yet seen is the one whose sexuality is very obvious (flirt with guys openly, talk about how he finds men attractive, had a boyfriend etc.) but him being gay is not the only thing about him and he is also relevant to a plot of a game. Give me this, Bioware!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 30, 2017 2:15:11 GMT
Oh yeah this is why I do not consider "Schrodinger sexuality" as a valid form of representation. I would love to see more gay characters that are in healthy relationships. Or bi characters that are in same-sex relationship as well. And then there are more broad questions of how to represent lgbt characters. How much should such character reveal about their sexuality? How much of their stories in a game should be related to their sexuality? Because gay people come in a variety similar to straight people, I would say that the same should go for representation. Some gay characters will not reveal their sexuality easily, but others will tell you very quickly (and some others are along the spectrum). Some characters are like Dorian, where his sexuality plays an important role. Some may not. This is why I always support more lgbt characters in general because there are more than one ways to represent them! My favorite gay LI that I have not yet seen is the one whose sexuality is very obvious (flirt with guys openly, talk about how he finds men attractive, had a boyfriend etc.) but him being gay is not the only thing about him and he is also relevant to a plot of a game. Give me this, Bioware!
The issue I have with Dorian or Gil is that I dont want real life issues with a character that I'm going to romance, I was really excited with Gil being a dad even if I didnt like his looks or not being a squadmate, but then Jill and his duty as man happened :poop: I dont care if we see some real life issues with non-romanceable characters, I mean why not, but with limit resources the character I'm going to romance and spend time with better be free of real life gay-angst... I have real life and this forum to see what homophobia is. Or maybe some analogy like mage vs templar in Anders romance, that was cool. Jaal romance is perfect and I want to see that with a KISA or a werewofie
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Post by Dirk on Jul 30, 2017 2:22:55 GMT
Oh yeah this is why I do not consider "Schrodinger sexuality" as a valid form of representation. I would love to see more gay characters that are in healthy relationships. Or bi characters that are in same-sex relationship as well. And then there are more broad questions of how to represent lgbt characters. How much should such character reveal about their sexuality? How much of their stories in a game should be related to their sexuality? Because gay people come in a variety similar to straight people, I would say that the same should go for representation. Some gay characters will not reveal their sexuality easily, but others will tell you very quickly (and some others are along the spectrum). Some characters are like Dorian, where his sexuality plays an important role. Some may not. This is why I always support more lgbt characters in general because there are more than one ways to represent them! My favorite gay LI that I have not yet seen is the one whose sexuality is very obvious (flirt with guys openly, talk about how he finds men attractive, had a boyfriend etc.) but him being gay is not the only thing about him and he is also relevant to a plot of a game. Give me this, Bioware!
The issue I have with Dorian or Gil is that I dont want real life issues with a character that I'm going to romance, I was really excited with Gil being a dad even if I didnt like his looks or not being a squadmate, but then Jill and his duty as man happened :poop: I dont care if we see some real life issues with non-romanceable characters, I mean why not, but with limit resources the character I'm going to romance and spend time with better be free of real life gay-angst... I have real life and this forum to see what homophobia is. Or maybe some analogy like mage vs templar in Anders romance, that was cool. Jaal romance is perfect and I want to see that with a KISA or a werewofie Oh I see what you mean. I am tired of those issues as well. Don't get me wrong: having a gay character who has to deal with homophobia and other issues regarding his sexuality is a legitimate form of representation and can resonate well with many players. But it should not be the only way to portray gay characters. Now that we have characters like Dorian and Gil, it is time for more gay characters with zero gay-angst.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 30, 2017 3:07:40 GMT
I definitely think 2/2/2 works best if the resources are spent equally, or even better 2/4/2. The latter would also allow other options and representation for those who want it while not "limiting" the options of those who do not.
As for non-human vs human options, one way they could solve that is to have the human options be available to only one sex while the non-human options are available to both. That way whether they do 2/2/2 or 2/4/2, each person will get 2 or 3 options and have one be human and one or two non-human.
And yes I agree there should be non-romancable characters of various sexualities.
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Post by Pearl on Jul 30, 2017 4:33:51 GMT
I was wondering when Politic Thread Trolls™ would be here :poop: Does this mean I'm on a thoughtcriminal watch list? How exciting.
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Post by Dirk on Jul 30, 2017 5:09:28 GMT
Hell yeah. It would take a miracle for that to happen though. Yep, it is very unlikely sadly. Though I am thinking about starting a thread where people can write letters about why they want a gay KIFA, and then we collect and send them to Bioware. It's like this thread made by the best mod, Natashina, but it should be nicer of course. Last time we got bi Jaal, maybe we get lucky for the second time!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 30, 2017 5:23:07 GMT
I was wondering when Politic Thread Trolls™ would be here :poop: Does this mean I'm on a thoughtcriminal watch list? How exciting. Honestly? I dont know who you are XD I recognise the other three, but not you lol Hell yeah. It would take a miracle for that to happen though. Yep, it is very unlikely sadly. Though I am thinking about starting a thread where people can write letters about why they want a gay KIFA, and then we collect and send them to Bioware. It's like this thread made by the best mod, Natashina , but it should be nicer of course. Last time we got bi Jaal, maybe we get lucky for the second time! YOU HAVE MY SWORD, BOW, AXE AND FURRY TRASHNESS
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 30, 2017 6:05:07 GMT
God forbid LGBT players get a gay character that's central to the story and is attractive, right? The only problem with Dorian is that he didn't say "No." the first time a female IQ flirted with him. After getting two story relevant gay squadmates, and an even distribution of romances, without needing to remind BW, MEA was a huge step down from Inquisition. Giving the gay character a plot line that revolves 90% of the time around his duty to procreate was such a stupid choice. And the author's insistence that characters, whose sexuality plays a huge role in their story are better and more realistic than characters, who just happen to be gay, is just insulting. The content in the game is intended for all players, and compared to the other characters with gender gated romances (Cassandra, Sera and Blackwall), Dorian's was positioned later in the game, and was more misleading in terms of the potential for success with the gated gender. What's so "god forbid" about making gay romances on the equal footing in their presentation with the straight ones? It's not particularly fun to flirt, then find out it's not going to work, then reroll. From how late Dorian came in the game, how important he is in the plot, and how great of a char he was, it would have been better if his relationship was open to both genders, and one of the earlier males companions were gender gated. Initially, they did the same with Jaal, but luckily, thy amended it, opening the romance with a plot-important, appealing character who joins late in the game to both genders. I agree with Jade Dreamer. The most important thing to consider about having gay characters is how it hurts the feelings of straight women.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 30, 2017 6:09:05 GMT
Bi characters are great, but they should not be stand ins for gay and lesbian characters. Bi representation is not the same thing as gay representation, because if you haven't noticed, gay != bi. Especially since most bi characters we had predominantly display opposite-sex attraction making the bi representation pretty invisible, unless you actively search it out. Personally I could do with less games pandering to straight people. Representation only seems stupid, when you never had to go without.You don't say.
But you see, that's not how supply and demand works. Video games are a product, not your personal soapbox.
Lol, video game companies should leave entire markets untapped because they are smaller than the straight, white, 15-40 year old male demographic. Business!
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 30, 2017 6:17:51 GMT
What I want to know is, why the fuck a bunch of straight men came in to comment on an article written by a gay man about how having gay characters makes him feel, and how realistic their portrayals are.
Why the fuck do you even care? It has nothing to do with you. Do you also have opinions about the effectiveness of various tampons?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2017 6:29:43 GMT
Uh, because he's a BioWare-hating troll who wants to drum up more hate. LGBT people are quite capable of bringing this sort of thing up on our own - and have done so at length.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2017 6:42:37 GMT
I actually like how they had flirt options like that rather than just very suave and overtly sexual ones. Agreed. I found it cute enough that I considered the idea of playing Sara (and I never play female) just for this romance. I see sweet where others see "cringe-worthy".
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 30, 2017 8:38:11 GMT
What I want to know is, why the fuck a bunch of straight men came in to comment on an article written by a gay man about how having gay characters makes him feel, and how realistic their portrayals are. Why the fuck do you even care? It has nothing to do with you. Do you also have opinions about the effectiveness of various tampons? Personally I find knowing more about various types of makeup to be handier. With tampons it can seem kinda weird. Just tell me which to buy, but I'll defer to someone else's judgment.
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Post by turianlannister on Jul 30, 2017 8:45:18 GMT
On the subject, what did they do to improve the Gil romance? The update notes didn't clarify. I'm not sure but getting jizz-obsessed Jill out of the picture would be a great start. A significant portion of a gay romance shouldn't be about a woman and her baby rabies
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Post by turianlannister on Jul 30, 2017 8:52:15 GMT
I thought DA:I handled LBGTQ issues better, I found them more meaningful, but ME:A certainly followed that framework. I fucking hated that they explained Krem, and did it in one of the most hamfisted ways possible. Would have been much better to just not bring it up and let players put two and two together from meeting a male character voiced by Jennifer Hale. Nowhere near as hamfisted as "So what brings you to Andromeda" "I'm trans, let me deadname myself" Wasn't Krem originally voiced by Gwendoline Christie? I recall someone on the DAI team saying 'Horns up!' (might have been Karin Weekes) about Gwendoline but that tweet was later deleted
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Post by Pearl on Jul 30, 2017 8:54:21 GMT
On the subject, what did they do to improve the Gil romance? The update notes didn't clarify. I'm not sure but getting jizz-obsessed Jill out of the picture would be a great start. A significant portion of a gay romance shouldn't be about a woman and her baby rabies To be honest, if I were gay, I would be offended by how hard Jill gets pushed over the course of that relationship. Hell, if you decide to not romance Gil, he winds up going through with it. Either that semen demon should never have been a part of the romance to begin with, or Gil should have been bisexual since like I just said, he can marry Jill and start a family with her. But then that would loop back into the lack of gay male romances. So yeah, short story long, fuck Jill. Not literally though, unless you're planning on using a cactus or something like that.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 30, 2017 8:58:52 GMT
Lol, semen demon.
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