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Post by Croatsky on Jul 31, 2017 4:02:10 GMT
Yep, nothing there about divisional merger. And both divisions still publicize the separate entities and addresses on their websites: oh, and further: Q: Why do gaming websites have a comments section on their articles now? A: So that the initial level of stupid has further to go... General laziness and incompetence is how gaming presses works.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 31, 2017 4:07:10 GMT
Sorry, I don't follow. I know what M&As are. Here is a brief explanation. I brought up M&A because that is the topic under which this and reddit's discussions fall. In any event, this thread is somewhat derailed so let me briefly summarize my point: BW Montreal is a division of BW Corp. BWM is currently a support studio assigned to EA Motive projects. No merger has taken place. Well, GoT starts in a few mins. Later, folks! There is no BioWare Corp. Hasn't been since EA bought them out. To be clear, I don't believe you know what you're talking about. sighsThis needs to be repeated. BioWare is actually EA Canada, they simply kept BioWare name for brand recognition. But in reality, BioWare is EA. Which also means BioWare Montreal is EA.
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Post by kino on Jul 31, 2017 4:27:01 GMT
kino Your disbelief is immaterial. You have already shown me you have very limited knowledge about the topic. Here is the 2012 SEC EDGAR archive for EA; click on SUBSIDIARIES OF THE REGISTRANT link and the first item you'll see is BioWare ULC. Check out Form 10-K, that's the official form of the EA shareholders's annual report people love to "parse" around here. Here is a Bloomberg overview of BioWare ULC. Subsidiary. It exists as a legal entity. Anyways, I'm tired of this nonsense. Nice chatting with you Andrew Waples That is a healthy attitude. I respect it and recommend it. It's a privacy issue. I'm just a regular 9-5 Joe that invests, nothing fancy. I reiterate my previous statement. Later.
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Post by kino on Jul 31, 2017 4:28:05 GMT
There is no BioWare Corp. Hasn't been since EA bought them out. To be clear, I don't believe you know what you're talking about. sighsThis needs to be repeated. BioWare is actually EA Canada, they simply kept BioWare name for brand recognition. But in reality, BioWare is EA. Which also means BioWare Montreal is EA. Don't worry about it, Croatsky. It's not worth the time.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 31, 2017 5:41:46 GMT
Yep, nothing there about divisional merger. And both divisions still publicize the separate entities and addresses on their websites: oh, and further: Q: Why do gaming websites have a comments section on their articles now? A: So that the initial level of stupid has further to go... General laziness and incompetence is how gaming presses works. The fakest of fake news.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 31, 2017 5:42:46 GMT
So….running for the hills canceled then. Why do you lie to me, internet?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 31, 2017 5:49:58 GMT
So….running for the hills canceled then. Why do you lie to me, internet? Internet is a fickle beast.
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Post by kino on Jul 31, 2017 5:56:35 GMT
So….running for the hills canceled then. Why do you lie to me, internet? Because the Internet does...not...care. It cares not. At all. Ever. For any reason...except Valentines Day, for some fucked up reason. Fucking Internet.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 31, 2017 5:58:45 GMT
I knew marrying the internet was a mistake.
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Post by kino on Jul 31, 2017 6:01:57 GMT
I knew marrying the internet was a mistake. You married it? Fucking oath, man, I just dated it and it's mother, ARPANET, was absolutely crazy. I knew then anything more would be a mistake. Fucking Tokenring. I mean, really...
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 31, 2017 8:46:15 GMT
So….running for the hills canceled then. Why do you lie to me, internet? Well, running for the hill might still be an option but if the dam breaks open many years to soon, and if there is no room upon the hill. And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 12:12:02 GMT
Noting's changed though... still playing the game... still enjoying playing the game... will continue to enjoy playing the game for some time to come. If DLC happens at some point, I'll buy it. If it doesn't, I have nothing to buy... will continue playing the game as it is... and, if necessary, writing a head canon/fan fiction tying up lose threads. The depths of EA and Bioware's business is their business. They do what it takes to stay in business. The internet should really stay out of their board room and just admit it still just doesn't know anything for certain. Regardless, gaming news journalists should find some actual news to report rather than blogging biased opinions and exaggerating the shit out of everything into various "the sky is falling" scenarios. As long as fans "like" what they do... all we'll get are memes and opinionated blogs and word wars in the comments section. They get clicks and money for a whole of non-news... and I just won't read anything they do anymore... too busy playing the actual games. I"ve also decided to cut back my participation here... going to follow phoray through her text only playthrough and a few other threads... but no more of these "Bioware is doomed" threads... will leave EA's business to EA... keeps my blood pressure in check. It's been fun talking about some things with some of the people here... not so much fun with others. Have a good one. Up.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 31, 2017 14:31:28 GMT
Fake news.
My division (eCommerce part of a big Fortune 500 company) recently started sharing office space with the marketing department.
It does *not* mean eCommerce has been absorbed by marketing nor vice versa.
It does mean I have a much nicer view than I did before.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 31, 2017 16:22:02 GMT
First of all, this thread is a disgrace, the whole "I believe, you believe" thing is really annoying.. Second: Jorgensen should rather have not said anything at all. He couldn't have possibly mean more unclear if he tried. Way to make ominous statements man. Good job. Thirdly: The really weird thing is that I just read a comment by a German games journalist, who says when he visited BW Montreal a year ago to get a preview of ME:A, they were already in the same building as Motive. So, what happened now? No one knows. Fourthly: BW should just come out and tell us their DLC plans already. This is getting really tiresome. I'd enjoy some ME:A DLC if it's well made but if it's not, I'd rather know sooner rather than later. The one thing I hope we will not get is a crappy DLC made by some poor folks who already know that it's going to be their last project before getting fired or something. That would really be awful (but at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about anything anymore).
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 31, 2017 16:29:02 GMT
First of all, this thread is a disgrace, the whole "I believe, you believe" thing is really annoying.. Second: Jorgensen should rather have not said anything at all. He couldn't have possibly mean more unclear if he tried. Way to make ominous statements man. Good job. Thirdly: The really weird thing is that I just read a comment by a German games journalist, who says when he visited BW Montreal a year ago to get a preview of ME:A, they were already in the same building as Motive. So, what happened now? No one knows.Fourthly: BW should just come out and tell us their DLC plans already. This is getting really tiresome. I'd enjoy some ME:A DLC if it's well made but if it's not, I'd rather know sooner rather than later. The one thing I hope we will not get is a crappy DLC made by some poor folks who already know that it's going to be their last project before getting fired or something. That would really be awful (but at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about anything anymore). Can you source that one? That's interesting, while probably not surprising.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 31, 2017 16:34:05 GMT
First of all, this thread is a disgrace, the whole "I believe, you believe" thing is really annoying.. Second: Jorgensen should rather have not said anything at all. He couldn't have possibly mean more unclear if he tried. Way to make ominous statements man. Good job. Thirdly: The really weird thing is that I just read a comment by a German games journalist, who says when he visited BW Montreal a year ago to get a preview of ME:A, they were already in the same building as Motive. So, what happened now? No one knows.Fourthly: BW should just come out and tell us their DLC plans already. This is getting really tiresome. I'd enjoy some ME:A DLC if it's well made but if it's not, I'd rather know sooner rather than later. The one thing I hope we will not get is a crappy DLC made by some poor folks who already know that it's going to be their last project before getting fired or something. That would really be awful (but at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about anything anymore). Can you source that one? That's interesting, while probably not surprising. There you go. Check out the first (oldest) comment under the article. It's all in German though. www.pcgames.de/Bioware-Firma-15280/News/Bioware-Montreal-aufgeloest-1234540/
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Post by fchopin on Jul 31, 2017 16:37:22 GMT
Those news reports don't confirm to me that BioWare Montreal has been 'absorbed', simply that they are sharing the same office and helping out another division. It doesn’t look good.
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 31, 2017 17:00:23 GMT
Noting's changed though... still playing the game... still enjoying playing the game... will continue to enjoy playing the game for some time to come. If DLC happens at some point, I'll buy it. If it doesn't, I have nothing to buy... will continue playing the game as it is... and, if necessary, writing a head canon/fan fiction tying up lose threads. The depths of EA and Bioware's business is their business. They do what it takes to stay in business. The internet should really stay out of their board room and just admit it still just doesn't know anything for certain. Regardless, gaming news journalists should find some actual news to report rather than blogging biased opinions and exaggerating the shit out of everything into various "the sky is falling" scenarios. As long as fans "like" what they do... all we'll get are memes and opinionated blogs and word wars in the comments section. They get clicks and money for a whole of non-news... and I just won't read anything they do anymore... too busy playing the actual games. I"ve also decided to cut back my participation here... going to follow phoray through her text only playthrough and a few other threads... but no more of these "Bioware is doomed" threads... will leave EA's business to EA... keeps my blood pressure in check. It's been fun talking about some things with some of the people here... not so much fun with others. Have a good one. Up. Keep on gaming! 'Cause that's what we gamers do best.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 31, 2017 17:10:38 GMT
It doesn't sound like they were 'absorbed.'
"This is to build the new IP around Jade Raymond's team that she's been building. We brought our BioWare Montreal team into that same facility."
It sounds like they hired 100 people to work on a new IP, could not fit them in the building they currently have, so they built a new facility to house everyone rather than maintain two buildings.
This is the whole quote.
"We're building out a new studio in Montréal, as we've told everyone. And we've hired over 100 people into that studio that are brand-new to EA. This is to build the new IP around Jade Raymond's team that she's been building. I was in that studio last month. And it's a wonderful new addition to our team. And we brought our BioWare Montréal team into that same facility. So they now all sit in one new studio together,"
Sounds like two teams sharing a studio to me.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Jul 31, 2017 17:26:32 GMT
so... Bioware Montreal team moved to the same building with EA Motive.... because its newish and bigger...
and does this mean the whole Kotaku sources saying they're downsizing is just bullshit? Or people just take it as Montreal team working on BF2 and forgetting about MEA DLC
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Post by linksocarina on Jul 31, 2017 18:01:22 GMT
Ok I got the confirmation, this story is true.
Doing the write up now.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 31, 2017 18:31:32 GMT
Ok I got the confirmation, this story is true. Doing the write up now. What story?
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 31, 2017 18:33:06 GMT
so... Bioware Montreal team moved to the same building with EA Motive.... because its newish and bigger... and does this mean the whole Kotaku sources saying they're downsizing is just bullshit? Or people just take it as Montreal team working on BF2 and forgetting about MEA DLC It's difficult to understand how that part of the article can be true. The main issue the article had was that we only really had the journalist's spin on what was said. If the guy's sources told him that there were moving out of the office then that would certainly explain the 'rows and rows of empty desks', just not in the way it was spun. Then again, 'no dlc' could be a result of no teams are available to work on it, rather than doom and gloom about reviews originally reported... the end result would also be the same.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 31, 2017 18:44:23 GMT
First of all, this thread is a disgrace, the whole "I believe, you believe" thing is really annoying.. Second: Jorgensen should rather have not said anything at all. He couldn't have possibly mean more unclear if he tried. Way to make ominous statements man. Good job. Thirdly: The really weird thing is that I just read a comment by a German games journalist, who says when he visited BW Montreal a year ago to get a preview of ME:A, they were already in the same building as Motive. So, what happened now? No one knows. Fourthly: BW should just come out and tell us their DLC plans already. This is getting really tiresome. I'd enjoy some ME:A DLC if it's well made but if it's not, I'd rather know sooner rather than later. The one thing I hope we will not get is a crappy DLC made by some poor folks who already know that it's going to be their last project before getting fired or something. That would really be awful (but at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about anything anymore). 2. Them (Motive, BioWare Montréal and Montréal Frostbite team) started moving to the new office last January, it's old news for Jorgensen... See French local article on the matter. 3. EA always kept all their Montréal divisions under the same roof as far as I know. Until 2013, EA Visceral, EA Mobile and BioWare shared 3 floors in La Place Ville Marie (where EA had offices from 2004 until this year). When EA Visceral Montréal was closed down in 2013, they downsized the space they were renting keeping mostly just the BioWare floor. When Motive was started, they moved in with BioWare and the other EA folks until the new place was ready earlier this year.
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Post by linksocarina on Jul 31, 2017 18:47:34 GMT
Ok I got the confirmation, this story is true. Doing the write up now. What story? This story
To quote the confirmation we received from EA: So yes, the merger is real. We got it right from the horse's mouth. Basic reporting really.
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