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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 3, 2017 14:43:35 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 14:41:51 GMT Pounce de León said:

Aug 3, 2017 4:43:17 GMT Monica21 said:

Jesus, what a dick. I can't imagine working with a guy like that.

Now, now. I agree it's a bit disgusting, but as long he doesn't actually fill it with semen I'm fine wherever he gets his juice from.

It's his own urine.

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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 3, 2017 15:01:15 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 14:43:35 GMT ArabianIGoggles said:

Aug 3, 2017 14:41:51 GMT Pounce de León said:

Now, now. I agree it's a bit disgusting, but as long he doesn't actually fill it with semen I'm fine wherever he gets his juice from.

It's his own urine.

Some say it has the power of healing.

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 15:25:18 GMT

"Racism goes both ways" is the epitome of White Tears.

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Aug 3, 2017 15:25:18 GMT warrior said:

"Racism goes both ways" is the epitome of White Tears.

And why is this a problem? Don't play the white privilege card, outdated.

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Post by smilesja on Aug 3, 2017 15:36:37 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 14:35:07 GMT ArabianIGoggles said:

Aug 3, 2017 4:46:04 GMT Qolx said:

The guy is obnoxious but he was there for 7yrs. I'm sure his opinion is highly accurate.

He was probably only there that long because any time he was about to be fired he threatened a discrimination lawsuit. There has always been one of those types at every company I've worked for.

Do you have any proof of this? Not saying I don't believe but I want to see this with my own eyes.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 3, 2017 15:37:19 GMT

What is the predominate ethnicity in Montreal?

Does he like being that awkward dickhead that is kind of funny?

He's gone, yo. No longer relevant to BioWare except in the past tense.

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Post by griffith82 on Aug 3, 2017 15:44:33 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:36:37 GMT smilesja said:

Aug 3, 2017 14:35:07 GMT ArabianIGoggles said:

He was probably only there that long because any time he was about to be fired he threatened a discrimination lawsuit. There has always been one of those types at every company I've worked for.

Do you have any proof of this? Not saying I don't believe but I want to see this with my own eyes.

That rumor had been circulated for a while but AFAIK just rampant speculation.

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Post by browncoatn7 on Aug 3, 2017 15:45:28 GMT

What exactly did Manveer Heir do anyway? I've tried googling, but all hits have been from what seems to be the gaming world's answer to Breitbart.

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Post by griffith82 on Aug 3, 2017 15:48:55 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:45:28 GMT browncoatn7 said:

What exactly did Manveer Heir do anyway? I've tried googling, but all hits have been from what seems to be the gaming world's answer to Breitbart.

He spewed racist comments on twitter basically.

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Getting the fuck out of that environment 5 months ago was the best move of my life: Manveer Heir Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT

Post by browncoatn7 on Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:48:55 GMT griffith82 said:

Aug 3, 2017 15:45:28 GMT browncoatn7 said:

What exactly did Manveer Heir do anyway? I've tried googling, but all hits have been from what seems to be the gaming world's answer to Breitbart.

He spewed racist comments on twitter basically.

Do you have any sources? When I google I get hits from "One Angry Gamer" and "Heat Street", neither of which seem particularly credible, as well as Reddit (...).

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Post by Arcian on Aug 3, 2017 15:56:45 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:45:28 GMT browncoatn7 said:

What exactly did Manveer Heir do anyway? I've tried googling, but all hits have been from what seems to be the gaming world's answer to Breitbart.

He acted like a piece of shit towards people based on the color of their skin.

Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT browncoatn7 said:

Aug 3, 2017 15:48:55 GMT griffith82 said:

He spewed racist comments on twitter basically.

Do you have any sources? When I google I get hits from "One Angry Gamer" and "Heat Street", neither of which seem particularly credible, as well as Reddit (...).

One just has to read his twitter.

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Getting the fuck out of that environment 5 months ago was the best move of my life: Manveer Heir Aug 3, 2017 16:15:26 GMT

Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 3, 2017 16:15:26 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:45:28 GMT browncoatn7 said:

What exactly did Manveer Heir do anyway? I've tried googling, but all hits have been from what seems to be the gaming world's answer to Breitbart.

damn straight

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Aug 3, 2017 16:17:01 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:36:37 GMT smilesja said:

Aug 3, 2017 14:35:07 GMT ArabianIGoggles said:

He was probably only there that long because any time he was about to be fired he threatened a discrimination lawsuit. There has always been one of those types at every company I've worked for.

Do you have any proof of this? Not saying I don't believe but I want to see this with my own eyes.

I've got to do better myself. Let me practice:

SOURCE?!? REALLY?!? TELL ME!!!

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Source?

Source please.

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Aug 3, 2017 7:47:33 GMT flyingovertrout said:

Isn't that the standard for all racism now? At least that's what I keep being told.

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 16:53:10 GMT

White people when their overwhelming social power/privilege is even a tiny bit threatened...
such as when POC mock them for freaking out when their overwhelming social power/privilege is even a little bit threatened:

("White Tears" is just a joke to express frustration
for when when white people are being oversensitive, defensive, or evasive instead of listening during conversations about race,
in particular when a POC tells them something they've done is hurtful or harmful.
or like when white people complain about affirmative action for POC ruining their lives because they deserved XYZ more.
That kind of thing.
Because white people often can't deal with feeling a tiny bit of discomfort about race, and overreact.
As some of you are now.
So when you don't just laugh and/or shrug it off and instead act as if this makes Manveer some kind of reverse neo-Nazi or something,
you're basically proving the point.)

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 17:13:26 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT browncoatn7 said:

Aug 3, 2017 15:48:55 GMT griffith82 said:

He spewed racist comments on twitter basically.

Do you have any sources? When I google I get hits from "One Angry Gamer" and "Heat Street", neither of which seem particularly credible, as well as Reddit (...).

If you do an image search, you can find the ones people focused on:

A lot of it is sarcasm/jokes about white people not understanding systemic racism, or being babies and claiming that brown people oppress them. There was one tweet I did think was in poor taste and should not have been posted (not pictured here, just remember seeing it and wincing), but most did not offend me.

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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2017 17:15:30 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:13:26 GMT warrior said:

Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT browncoatn7 said:

Do you have any sources? When I google I get hits from "One Angry Gamer" and "Heat Street", neither of which seem particularly credible, as well as Reddit (...).

If you do an image search, you can find the ones people focused on:

*snip*

A lot of it is sarcasm/jokes about white people not understanding systemic racism, or being babies and claiming that brown people oppress them. There was one tweet I did think was in poor taste and should not have been posted (not pictured here, just remember seeing it and wincing), but most did not offend me.

Was it the one where he say he doesn't miss living where he used to because of all the white people there?

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 17:21:36 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:15:30 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Aug 3, 2017 17:13:26 GMT warrior said:

If you do an image search, you can find the ones people focused on:

*snip*

A lot of it is sarcasm/jokes about white people not understanding systemic racism, or being babies and claiming that brown people oppress them. There was one tweet I did think was in poor taste and should not have been posted (not pictured here, just remember seeing it and wincing), but most did not offend me.

Was it the one where he say he doesn't miss living where he used to because of all the white people there?

No, that doesn't offend me, because I can understand why being a person of color in a sea of white strangers -- without knowing who respects you and who is going to tell you to go back to your country MAGA!!!!!!!1111, or worse -- is less preferable to being a person of color in a more diverse neighborhood, or in a neighborhood with more people who look like you. When POC say they don't want to be around white people, or something like that (didn't see that tweet), I think what is usually meant is that they don't want to be around racism, because it is exhausting.
Have you seen Get Out? That might illuminate some of the psychology there.

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 17:39:24 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:34:23 GMT @tzeenchianapostrophe said:

Aug 3, 2017 17:21:36 GMT warrior said:

No, that doesn't offend me, because I can understand why being a person of color in a sea of white strangers -- without knowing who respects you and who is going to tell you to go back to your country MAGA!!!!!!!1111, or worse -- is less preferable to being a person of color in a more diverse neighborhood, or in a neighborhood with more people who look like you. When POC say they don't want to be around white people, or something like that (didn't see that tweet), I think what is usually meant is that they don't want to be around racism, because it is exhausting.
Have you seen Get Out? That might illuminate some of the psychology there.

What you don't seem to understand, is that giving a pass to racism, ANY racism, isn't going to lessen the overall degree of racism, but cause the opposite.

His "reasons" aren't relevant. Judging other people based on their skin color is racism, period. By defending his BS, all you are doing is giving ammunition to actual racists on both extremes.

You can be both a "POC" and a "POS" (piece of shit) at the same time, no one gets protection from that due to "minority" status.

Nothing in the above grouping of tweets is "racist" against white people.
It may make you uncomfortable but you are not experiencing racism.
I'm not "giving him a pass" -- I'm disagreeing that this is racism, period.

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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2017 17:45:12 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:21:36 GMT warrior said:

Aug 3, 2017 17:15:30 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Was it the one where he say he doesn't miss living where he used to because of all the white people there?

No, that doesn't offend me, because I can understand why being a person of color in a sea of white strangers -- without knowing who respects you and who is going to tell you to go back to your country MAGA!!!!!!!1111, or worse -- is less preferable to being a person of color in a more diverse neighborhood, or in a neighborhood with more people who look like you. When POC say they don't want to be around white people, or something like that (didn't see that tweet), I think what is usually meant is that they don't want to be around racism, because it is exhausting.
Have you seen Get Out? That might illuminate some of the psychology there.

Here is an image of the tweets(bottom part since it is two conversations in the same image). Just so you know which one I thought you were referring to. I was mistaken he didn't used to live there(that was the top part), he just never wants to live there because of all the white people.

SPOILER: Click to show

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Post by warrior on Aug 3, 2017 17:48:29 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:45:12 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Aug 3, 2017 17:21:36 GMT warrior said:

No, that doesn't offend me, because I can understand why being a person of color in a sea of white strangers -- without knowing who respects you and who is going to tell you to go back to your country MAGA!!!!!!!1111, or worse -- is less preferable to being a person of color in a more diverse neighborhood, or in a neighborhood with more people who look like you. When POC say they don't want to be around white people, or something like that (didn't see that tweet), I think what is usually meant is that they don't want to be around racism, because it is exhausting.
Have you seen Get Out? That might illuminate some of the psychology there.

Here is an image of the tweets(bottom part since it is two conversations in the same image). Just so you know which one I thought you were referring to.

SPOILER: Click to show

Oh--yeah, that was indeed the one I was talking about. I couldn't remember the exact wording.

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Getting the fuck out of that environment 5 months ago was the best move of my life: Manveer Heir Aug 3, 2017 17:52:31 GMT

Post by Guts on Aug 3, 2017 17:52:31 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 2:22:51 GMT Andrew Lucas said:

Aug 2, 2017 21:07:32 GMT Guts said:

Eh. Idc that you hate the game, that's your opinion, I just have a problem when you start calling people like me "forum drones". (Unless you're referring to Pouf)
Could it be possible that other members of the team left for similar reasons?

See? This is the problem with overly emotional driven people. Any sign of mere criticism = hater. So, yeah. I will take it, despite liking the game. Meanwhile, drones will be drones.

Sorry...I forgot about you liking the game.

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Post by Guts on Aug 3, 2017 17:54:52 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 15:01:15 GMT Pounce de León said:

Aug 3, 2017 14:43:35 GMT ArabianIGoggles said:

It's his own urine.

Some say it has the power of healing.

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Post by browncoatn7 on Aug 3, 2017 17:55:12 GMT

Aug 3, 2017 17:13:26 GMT warrior said:

Aug 3, 2017 15:55:12 GMT browncoatn7 said:

Do you have any sources? When I google I get hits from "One Angry Gamer" and "Heat Street", neither of which seem particularly credible, as well as Reddit (...).

If you do an image search, you can find the ones people focused on:

*cut for length*

A lot of it is sarcasm/jokes about white people not understanding systemic racism, or being babies and claiming that brown people oppress them. There was one tweet I did think was in poor taste and should not have been posted (not pictured here, just remember seeing it and wincing), but most did not offend me.

Yep, none of those are racist IMHO. Figured as much.

Edit: That other Hanako Ikezawa posted a screenshot of was over the line though.

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