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Post by abaris on Aug 24, 2017 14:20:43 GMT
I don't think there were any plans for DLC if I'm being honest. When I got that arc tease in game I thought they were setting up the sequel. What's with all the other lose threads? Mid game, no less. What's that supposed to be? Just a case of bad writing?
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 24, 2017 16:11:27 GMT
I don't think there were any plans for DLC if I'm being honest. When I got that arc tease in game I thought they were setting up the sequel. What's with all the other lose threads? Mid game, no less. What's that supposed to be? Just a case of bad writing? I don't think I can name a single form of media that resolves all subplots.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 24, 2017 16:44:22 GMT
Mid-game isn't a useful metric when the player determines pacing. My first ME:A run ended with the completion of Ryder Family Secrets, for instance.
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Post by danishgambit on Aug 24, 2017 17:24:01 GMT
Lol, so if Andromeda had 10/10 scores and the game was great and polished, these same people would come out of the woodwork to trash the game? Don't be silly. They'll probably blame on corrupt games journalism. Giving DAI any awards over games like Divinity: Original Sin or freaking Bayonetta:2 was just a bad joke. Most of these so-called GOTY awards completely ignored PC games for some reason and they weren't even console specific awards. And DAI was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be. It was an ok game sure but GOTY? No not even close. That's why so many didn't actually take any of it seriously.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 24, 2017 18:54:21 GMT
They'll probably blame on corrupt games journalism. Giving DAI any awards over games like Divinity: Original Sin or freaking Bayonetta:2 was just a bad joke. Most of these so-called GOTY awards completely ignored PC games for some reason and they weren't even console specific awards. And DAI was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be. It was an ok game sure but GOTY? No not even close. That's why so many didn't actually take any of it seriously. Those are the SAME fucking sites, magazines, Youtubers, conventions, and etc, that gave The Witcher 3 all of it's GOTY awards the following year and I don't hear people bitching about it getting all those awards regardless if it deserved to win some of them or not.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 24, 2017 19:03:39 GMT
They'll probably blame on corrupt games journalism. Giving DAI any awards over games like Divinity: Original Sin or freaking Bayonetta:2 was just a bad joke. Most of these so-called GOTY awards completely ignored PC games for some reason and they weren't even console specific awards. And DAI was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be. It was an ok game sure but GOTY? No not even close. That's why so many didn't actually take any of it seriously. whereas DAI is the best game I've ever played and it does not get enough praise.
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Post by danishgambit on Aug 24, 2017 19:04:49 GMT
Giving DAI any awards over games like Divinity: Original Sin or freaking Bayonetta:2 was just a bad joke. Most of these so-called GOTY awards completely ignored PC games for some reason and they weren't even console specific awards. And DAI was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be. It was an ok game sure but GOTY? No not even close. That's why so many didn't actually take any of it seriously. Those are the SAME fucking sites, magazines, Youtubers, conventions, and etc, that gave The Witcher 3 all of it's GOTY awards the following year and I don't hear people bitching about it getting all those awards regardless if it deserved to win some of them or not. www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/01/07/the-witcher-3-is-the-same-kind-of-game-of-the-year-as-dragon-age-inquisition/#1dd1295258d0I found that in 0.65 seconds. lol...
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Post by Destructive Deer on Aug 24, 2017 19:46:50 GMT
the gameplay was excellent. It isn't. Nowhere near it, in fact. Well I'd like to hear your argument(s), as I personally enjoyed the gameplay a lot more than the OT, which already had quite decent (if not excellent) gameplay.
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Post by alihou on Aug 24, 2017 21:59:37 GMT
They'll probably blame on corrupt games journalism. Giving DAI any awards over games like Divinity: Original Sin or freaking Bayonetta:2 was just a bad joke. Most of these so-called GOTY awards completely ignored PC games for some reason and they weren't even console specific awards. And DAI was nowhere near as good as it was hyped up to be. It was an ok game sure but GOTY? No not even close. That's why so many didn't actually take any of it seriously. DAI deserved GOTY, this is hindsight perception of the game. When DAI came out people were singing its praises, it was loved by most gamers, up until Witcher 3 came out. People instantly compared the two and thus formed the DAI hate train. DAI is still a great game, it just hasn't aged very well in my opinion.
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Post by abaris on Aug 24, 2017 22:35:17 GMT
DAI deserved GOTY, this is hindsight perception of the game. When DAI came out people were singing its praises, it was loved by most gamers, up until Witcher 3 came out. People instantly compared the two and thus formed the DAI hate train. DAI is still a great game, it just hasn't aged very well in my opinion. DAI should have been in competition with Divinity Original Sin. Although I love DAI, I actually think Divinity was the better game.
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Post by river82 on Aug 24, 2017 23:28:21 GMT
It isn't. Nowhere near it, in fact. Well I'd like to hear your argument(s), as I personally enjoyed the gameplay a lot more than the OT, which already had quite decent (if not excellent) gameplay. I posted it in another thread. The game is heavily based on exploration and yet the exploration is dull, the worlds are empty, and the loot is unrewarding. In a genre dominated by Bethesda and now CDProjekt, they fell WOEFULLY short of the mark. Side quests are cookie cutter. RPG systems are pathetic. Tactical combat isn't tactical (which was what DA:2 was bashed for with their "wave combat". Lessons not learnt, apparently.) And that's not touching the stuff that has nothing to do with gameplay, like the dubious writing and characterisation. They released a substandard game and got hammered for it, but it only stands to reason considering this was the first release for Montreal and they were inexperienced devs. The problem is Bioware allowing a bunch of inexperienced people take charge of an important release because Edmonton can't spare the time.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 24, 2017 23:51:48 GMT
That didn't mean that DA2 wasn't tactical. It just wasn't the kind of tactical you liked.
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Post by river82 on Aug 25, 2017 0:00:47 GMT
Anything can be considered tactical if you really dissect it. Mortal Kombat can also be considered a "tactical" combat experience, and yet it's not the sort of "tactical" combat I expect in a Bioware game. I don't want to be hearing "GET OVER HERE" from any of my companions. The combat in DA:2 went from strategic and tactical in DA:O to pretty much straight action in DA:2, and Bioware don't really do straight action very well (imo.)
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Post by steamshipman on Aug 25, 2017 9:46:15 GMT
DAI deserved GOTY, this is hindsight perception of the game. When DAI came out people were singing its praises, it was loved by most gamers, up until Witcher 3 came out. People instantly compared the two and thus formed the DAI hate train. DAI is still a great game, it just hasn't aged very well in my opinion. I was very hyped for DAI. I liked what I saw in trailers and this didn't end well for me because game wasn't what it was in trailers. I very rarely play games when they are fresh, usually year or even two after release. Same was with DAI but I was so hyped that after release seeing Metacritics PC user reviews I searched for official Bioware forums to see what's going on in natural conversations about game. And well, I avoided General Discussion section mostly due to possible spoilers but was there somewhere thread with the name "PC community concerns" and it was very long thread with pages after pages and my god, was there toxicity. It was ebbs and flows of toxicity and restrained tries to be civil. Some people were very angry with the game from the very beginning. "For PC gamers by PC gamers" - was the first punch in the face. Banter bug was second. Single player MMO was the third. Fix controls! Fix tactical mode! Fix banter bug! All in all people wanted to enjoy shiny new game in good old ways. Questions were raised about where are cinematic dialogues and "Why Inquisitor goes over half of the region to put some flowers on some stupid grave" and "Gather 15 pelts? WTF?!" With TW3 heated discussions did get even more fuel, yes, but it was there well before it. And when I finally played DAI I liked and enjoyed it at first but after seeing what it really is... those GOTY boggle my mind. Literally most mindfucking thing in the world of video games reviews for me. Also, I still hate ME3 endings with passion. That didn't influenced my joy when I saw the very first trailer for new ME. I was glad there will be continuation. I was glad that it will be in another galaxy and we will not have to deal with the endings. I thought that I have good basis to believe that this will be solid good game. DAI mistakes learned, endings backlash acknowledged, gameplay in third ME was awesome (for me) and all that. I still didn't played MEA. Even demo. 'After at least one year' has become something like a rule for me. But my impression is already formed and it's mostly negative. The very first thing that raised my suspicions was premise for going to Andromeda, unveiled in those close to release trailers. "We go to Andromeda because
EXPLORAA-A-ATION!!!" And then was this IGN gameplay with asari companion mission and escape pod stunt that clearly shows that writing to extreme measure prefers rule-of-cool to coherency and common sense. This and some few youtube videos I watched (about dialogues, not animations) showed me that writing in this game is indeed somewhat 'cartoonish'. TLDR: I was predisposed to like and enjoy this game. Pieces of information I got from in-game videos gradually destroyed this disposition. I believe that it's possible that I will have good time with game. But no way I will admire and praise the story and writing. Also only three abilities? Just why?And I don't believe that MEA can be worse than DAI. If we speak only about story? May be. But in my perception from what I know there is no way MEA can be worse than DAI as a game. I see DAI as a couple of rough diamonds and some interesting trinkets in the very huge inexcusably uninteresting pile of absolute garbage.
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Post by abaris on Aug 25, 2017 10:24:01 GMT
That didn't mean that DA2 wasn't tactical. It just wasn't the kind of tactical you liked. It was more tactical than DAI, that's for sure. The problem it suffered from where the roof jump hordes.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 25, 2017 12:43:33 GMT
Anything can be considered tactical if you really dissect it. Mortal Kombat can also be considered a "tactical" combat experience, and yet it's not the sort of "tactical" combat I expect in a Bioware game. I don't want to be hearing "GET OVER HERE" from any of my companions. The combat in DA:2 went from strategic and tactical in DA:O to pretty much straight action in DA:2, and Bioware don't really do straight action very well (imo.) ^^ DA2 and inquisition are laughing jokes of a tactical game to the point that I WILL not acknowledge them as such. They're nothing more than hack and slash action games with a little dialogue to retain the genre of an RPG.
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Post by majesticjazz on Aug 25, 2017 13:42:59 GMT
Lol, so if Andromeda had 10/10 scores and the game was great and polished, these same people would come out of the woodwork to trash the game? Don't be silly. They'll probably blame on corrupt games journalism. Kinda like how the MEA supportors did with the journalist who gave MEA low review scores.....
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Post by decafhigh on Aug 25, 2017 13:59:05 GMT
And then was this IGN gameplay with asari companion mission and escape pod stunt that clearly shows that writing to extreme measure prefers rule-of-cool to coherency and common sense. This and some few youtube videos I watched (about dialogues, not animations) showed me that writing in this game is indeed somewhat 'cartoonish'. I've thought for a long time now this is BW's main problem. This all started back in ME2 when the story telling shifted from "classic space opera" to "Michael Bay does Space", then you had DA2 come out where "every time you push a button something awesome happens". BW has never really reigned it in since then. IMO they need to get back to a more grounded style of story telling and gameplay.
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Post by Garo on Aug 25, 2017 14:02:26 GMT
I blame Obama.
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Post by fiannawolf on Aug 26, 2017 23:03:33 GMT
EA sucked it dry for what it could and left the remains for Bioware.
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Post by warrior on Aug 26, 2017 23:16:53 GMT
EA sucked it dry for what it could and left the remains for Bioware. yes I felt swindled and now feel extra-swindled w/ no DLC and that's why I won't be pre-ordering EA again
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 27, 2017 3:01:22 GMT
EA sucked it dry for what it could and left the remains for Bioware. yes I felt swindled and now feel extra-swindled w/ no DLC and that's why I won't be pre-ordering EA again That hurt me. Too much corporate bullshit in gaming. I think it's indie/small studio or bust. Fuck EA with every rusty pipe.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 27, 2017 4:55:32 GMT
Yeah. It's almost if people are bashing MEA because it's a mediocre game in most senses? Oh my God, it actually makes sense now! It's not a bad or mediocre of a game. It's 2017, raise your standards. Yeah. It's almost if people are bashing MEA because it's a mediocre game in most senses? Oh my God, it actually makes sense now! Jared Leto sucks as the joker Agreed, he does, like the entirety of the DCEU.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Aug 27, 2017 5:43:23 GMT
Didn't a lot of fans "whine" when DA2 came out and yet that game got DLC anyway. Me included after playing the demo. The combat, dropping in and exploding enemies appalled me. I only got around to buying it after having played MEA. And to my surprise, DA2 was so much better. Yea...I never imagined I would ever say DA2 is no longer my least favorite Bioware game, but since Andromedas release...I just have absolutely no desire to ever replay it. None. there is just so much wrong with it, too much personally, for me to ever truly enjoy it. Even that first time started to feel like a chore about halfway through.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 6:19:42 GMT
Support dried up because they blew through their post-launch QA budget fixing all those things. That and they have odd priorities when it comes to deciding how to spend that money. Pretty much the only explanation I can think of why there isn't any more SP patches coming. Some of those patches did fix some critical things. I wouldn't have wasted time or money adding features like extra romances. Bug fixing should come first.
Oh, and they probably should have had a plan from the start. Instead, it seems they were flying blind for 3.5 years out of 5 the game was in development.
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