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Post by sageoflife on Aug 23, 2017 5:23:53 GMT
You could make white characters at release dingle doofus. I was making them. Yeah but you couldn't make Ice Vampires so white people freaked out I never saw what the big deal was. I'm ultrapale in real life, and it's really inconvenient.
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Post by warrior on Aug 23, 2017 5:35:31 GMT
Yeah but you couldn't make Ice Vampires so white people freaked out I never saw what the big deal was. I'm ultrapale in real life, and it's really inconvenient. In every ME game the 2nd (or 3rd?) choice white skin was still unnaturally light in so many shots. My ME3 femShep looked healthy in the CC, and yet looks frighteningly undead, for ex, when Cortez is dropping us off somewhere. My Sara looked "white" in the CC and looked pretty normally "white" in most scenes, and in a some of the other scenes a bit tan. I remember people on the old BSN pointing out how unexpectedly pale Shep looked in many cutscenes and wonder if they were trying to remedy the Vampire Shepard cutscene problem.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 23, 2017 5:42:48 GMT
Wait, what's the general opinion on SJWs around here? Please explain in terms of Miranda vs Jack. They're a boogeyman used by a certain breed of hypersensitive straight men who can't stand the fact that they're not the only demographic being considered for once. Alright! The consensus is SJWs are like Liara, somewhat annoying but lovable.
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Post by sil on Aug 23, 2017 7:45:57 GMT
I only remember seeing two or three lines in the entire game that could be considered that, and they all could be avoided. As for the trans character Hainly Abrams I didn't think much of her either, sure she mentioned her name use to be Stephan, but I really didn't think much of that and originally I thought it was short for Stephanie or something. Frankly I think it was just outrage for the sake of outrage. I understood the asari outrage, as that was a retcon that neither made sense nor sounded any good. The OT had firmly established that asari use female pronouns, and Aria even said that the asari had no word for Patriarch in their language, while the use of 'father' in rare instances, to explain the parent that didn't birth an asari, appeared to be used purely as a means of making it easier for non-asari to understand. The idea of a monogendered female species identifying as male is absurd. On the trans character Hainly, I didn't get the outcry for that either. I've had a few of trans friends over the years, at different stages of their transition, and there wasn't much that they wouldn't tell me about their former selves. Most probably because I was curious and friendly regarding it, and trying to understand what they were going through. So I found it a little difficult to understand the outcry, and when Ryder met the character ingame I thought it was a nice little addition. It was placed in the background and no big deal was made of it, just as it should be, no-one should be treated as special because they are different and she was treated like any other character. I liked that. When the outcry came out I looked at it from the viewpoint of the setting. By the time of ME, trans people would've had nearly 200 years of being able to become the person that they are, I'd assume gender roles would have a different outlook after all that time, so I'd assume the culture and stigma would be either gone or lesser. Maybe in 200 years trans people will feel able to discuss the person they had to be before they had the chance to become the person they truly feel they are.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 23, 2017 7:58:01 GMT
I think its people looking for a boogie man to blame for not liking the game instead of just saying "I don't like it" they have to find a reason to brigade on the internet.
BioWare did handle a few things awkwardly, but it always seems to start awkwardly and improve over time, unfortunately now its perfection or total screw up. Even look at different media of movies, if the word "reshoots" is mention people instantly start talking about how horrible the movie is going to be or other negative things, but Back to the Future went back and replaced the actor who was playing Marty with Micheal J Fox. At that time the movie was almost complete and they seemed to have done fine. Now look at the DCEU and they talk about a director was was in the lead for being offered the job of directing a movie it is all of a sudden complete and total failure with the movie.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 23, 2017 8:03:24 GMT
They're a boogeyman used by a certain breed of hypersensitive straight men who can't stand the fact that they're not the only demographic being considered for once. Alright! The consensus is SJWs are like Liara, somewhat annoying but lovable. You mean they are blue and have nice tits?
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Post by sil on Aug 23, 2017 8:08:17 GMT
I think its people looking for a boogie man to blame for not liking the game instead of just saying "I don't like it" they have to find a reason to brigade on the internet. BioWare did handle a few things awkwardly, but it always seems to start awkwardly and improve over time, unfortunately now its perfection or total screw up. Even look at different media of movies, if the word "reshoots" is mention people instantly start talking about how horrible the movie is going to be or other negative things, but Back to the Future went back and replaced the actor who was playing Marty with Micheal J Fox. At that time the movie was almost complete and they seemed to have done fine. Now look at the DCEU and they talk about a director was was in the lead for being offered the job of directing a movie it is all of a sudden complete and total failure with the movie. That's part of the problem of having worldwide 24/7 communication and media. At first it was convenient and great, and its gradually evolved into the stage where any news, even something minor, is blown so far out of proportion. It's scary.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 23, 2017 8:36:27 GMT
Well in fairness there was a poll recently which was overwhelmingly in favour of the SJW being a non-issue in MEA...so I think it's just the usual trolls looking for something to get angry about. Leave them to it.
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Post by warrior on Aug 23, 2017 8:58:56 GMT
Alright! The consensus is SJWs are like Liara, somewhat annoying but lovable. You mean they are blue and have nice tits?
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Post by shechinah on Aug 23, 2017 10:28:03 GMT
Wouldn't have been as controversial if you could... make custom white characters at the game's release. And then there was good old Manveer. Eliminate those two mistakes (Manveer worked there for 7+ years!!), and things would be a lot less hostile. You could make white characters at launch. I'm not going to dig up all of the pictures I showed in my other post about this but you can find some of the pictures I used over in the Share your Ryders thread. This one is from the early access judging by the date: i.imgur.com/P2qAFlr.jpgAs is this one: k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/9ue5wk0c61/Makayl_03.png
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Post by abaris on Aug 23, 2017 10:46:50 GMT
Begs the question, how white does it have to be to qualify as white?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 10:57:39 GMT
You could make white characters at launch. I'm not going to dig up the pictures I showed in my other post about this but you can find some of the pictures I used over in the Share your Ryders thread. This one is from the early access judging by the date: As is this one: k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/9ue5wk0c61/Makayl_03.pngBegs the question, how white does it have to be to qualify as white? Shit, I've seen whiter ... Soon you'll have to be see through ...
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Post by Arcian on Aug 23, 2017 15:23:57 GMT
What I found ironic is that some of the "Anti-SJW" crowd are guilty of the exact same behavior as the boogiemen they oh so despise. Projection in a nutshell. They are fighting identity politics with more identity politics.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 23, 2017 15:33:21 GMT
Wouldn't have been as controversial if you could... make custom white characters at the game's release. And then there was good old Manveer. Eliminate those two mistakes (Manveer worked there for 7+ years!!), and things would be a lot less hostile. You could make white characters at launch. I'm not going to dig up all of the pictures I showed in my other post about this but you can find some of the pictures I used over in the Share your Ryders thread. This one is from the early access judging by the date: i.imgur.com/P2qAFlr.jpgAs is this one: k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/9ue5wk0c61/Makayl_03.pngJohn Cena has a nice tan there.
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Post by shechinah on Aug 23, 2017 15:46:50 GMT
John Cena has a nice tan there. You consider that to be a tan? Now I'm curious as to what you consider to qualify as white skin because if the above isn't it then the majority of the white population in Denmark cannot be considered white by your standards.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 23, 2017 15:50:14 GMT
John Cena has a nice tan there. Now you know you are being ridiculous.
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Post by Guts on Aug 23, 2017 15:56:42 GMT
What I found ironic is that some of the "Anti-SJW" crowd are guilty of the exact same behavior as the boogiemen they oh so despise. Projection in a nutshell. They are fighting identity politics with more identity politics. "Hey I know how to fight identity politics, use identity politics, those idiots." (Ryder)
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Post by Guts on Aug 23, 2017 15:58:33 GMT
Ok, yeah that's lore-breaking. (I wonder if it'd be possible to unofficially patch that out.) I don't see how it's lorebreaking myself. They reiterated that asari don't have genders, so it was just relaying a piece of information that we never had a reason to be told before. The whole asari gender thing was always a confusing issue.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 23, 2017 15:59:08 GMT
What I found ironic is that some of the "Anti-SJW" crowd are guilty of the exact same behavior as the boogiemen they oh so despise. Projection in a nutshell. They are fighting identity politics with more identity politics. Damn it for once you are right about something
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Aug 23, 2017 16:09:23 GMT
Well, it all started with Manveer Heir and BW taking too long to respond to it. Then there was this "ugly females" and poor animations being blamed on 1 female animator/motion capture from EA. Then not having whiter skin option in character creator similar to Cora's. Then Hainly Abrams revealing old name. Then the gender talk between Asari and Angara on Nexus. Then "No bigots allowed" in conversation between Ryder and Jaal on Tempest. Then making Jaal bisexual.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 23, 2017 16:22:48 GMT
I never saw what the big deal was. I'm ultrapale in real life, and it's really inconvenient. In every ME game the 2nd (or 3rd?) choice white skin was still unnaturally light in so many shots. My ME3 femShep looked healthy in the CC, and yet looks frighteningly undead, for ex, when Cortez is dropping us off somewhere. My Sara looked "white" in the CC and looked pretty normally "white" in most scenes, and in a some of the other scenes a bit tan. I remember people on the old BSN pointing out how unexpectedly pale Shep looked in many cutscenes and wonder if they were trying to remedy the Vampire Shepard cutscene problem. I liked that skin tone for Spacer Sheps -- never saw UV in their lives except maybe during basic.
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Post by abaris on Aug 23, 2017 16:33:36 GMT
John Cena has a nice tan there. Have you changed your tac from trolling the whole game, which you didn't play, to SJW trolling?
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Post by suikoden on Aug 23, 2017 18:16:02 GMT
John Cena has a nice tan there. Have you changed your tac from trolling the whole game, which you didn't play, to SJW trolling? It's not hard - the game fails on many levels.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 23, 2017 20:16:40 GMT
I don't see how it's lorebreaking myself. They reiterated that asari don't have genders, so it was just relaying a piece of information that we never had a reason to be told before. The whole asari gender thing was always a confusing issue. It always made sense to me. Sex is physical while gender is psychological. Ergo, asari are female but do not have genders.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 23, 2017 21:38:16 GMT
Have you changed your tac from trolling the whole game, which you didn't play, to SJW trolling? It's not hard - the game fails on many levels. Since you have not actually played the game it is your assessment of the game that fails on many levels.
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