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Post by mannyray on Aug 24, 2017 6:53:26 GMT
You got caught in a lie. You never played it. It's in print. You're clearly very angry, which I don't really understand. I played the game for ten hours - you can choose to disbelieve that if you want? I don't see anywhere where I've stated in "print" I didn't play the game? Just try and be less angry / more rational and posts like mine might not bother you so much. I'm not angry at all. but go ahead and continue to pretend you even played the ten hour free trial. You've demonstrated you're simply nothing more than an lying troll.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 24, 2017 7:47:21 GMT
You're clearly very angry, which I don't really understand. I played the game for ten hours - you can choose to disbelieve that if you want? I don't see anywhere where I've stated in "print" I didn't play the game? Just try and be less angry / more rational and posts like mine might not bother you so much. I'm not angry at all. but go ahead and continue to pretend you even played the ten hour free trial. You've demonstrated you're simply nothing more than an lying troll. You realize that you don't need to use the CC and try out every single preset to play the ten-hour trial, right? Not all the presets allowed for white skin tones. Just calm down.
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Post by laughingbanana on Aug 24, 2017 8:47:00 GMT
I promptly put anyone saying "BECAUSE OF THE SJWs!" in the People To Ignore folder and I suggest anyone else still sane to do the same. It'd be better to excise such stupidity out from your life and not to give them any thoughts whatsoever.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 24, 2017 9:46:45 GMT
I'm not angry at all. but go ahead and continue to pretend you even played the ten hour free trial. You've demonstrated you're simply nothing more than an lying troll. You realize that you don't need to use the CC and try out every single preset to play the ten-hour trial, right? Not all the presets allowed for white skin tones. Just calm down. You said none of them did, slow down, young pup. You got caught in a lie own up to it. You said you could not make a white person in this game. then you said a pale white person. Your a liar. This is drawn from your own words.
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Post by sil on Aug 24, 2017 9:48:20 GMT
I promptly put anyone saying "BECAUSE OF THE SJWs!" in the People To Ignore folder and I suggest anyone else still sane to do the same. It'd be better to excise such stupidity out from your life and not to give them any thoughts whatsoever. I disagree, people should be free to worry about whether SJW agenda's are getting in the way of gaming. Most of their comments regarding ME:A are bollocks, especially things like making Sara Ryder "ugly" or having no really white preset (which seemed more like an omission than some kind of conspiracy), but there are one or two grains of truth. The asari male pronoun section of Andromeda clearly was a line that felt SJW, whether it was or not is not the point, it -felt- that way and it went against established lore, which shouldn't happen to justify real world social issues, as an asari is both fictional and not human so shouldn't be held to the same standards. I'm anti-SJW, not because I disagree with them (as I believe fully in treating everyone equal, but to me, that means treating everyone the same and not treating anyone as a special case) but I disagree with their heavy-handed tactics that can result in people losing their jobs, that they are erroding free speech yet often claim to be liberal and their 'outcries' that tend to be a result of them having too much time on their hands, being online too much and not actually interacting with real people, and often because many of them have very very thin skin (not literally thin skin, in case someone gets upset, I'm meaning they are incapable of shrugging off peoples words).
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Post by qunaripenis on Aug 24, 2017 9:54:08 GMT
They messed up salarian eyelids. Nothing else matters. They fixed that in patch 1.08
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Post by laughingbanana on Aug 24, 2017 9:54:51 GMT
I promptly put anyone saying "BECAUSE OF THE SJWs!" in the People To Ignore folder and I suggest anyone else still sane to do the same. It'd be better to excise such stupidity out from your life and not to give them any thoughts whatsoever. I disagree, people should be free to worry about whether SJW agenda's are getting in the way of gaming. Most of their comments regarding ME:A are bollocks, especially things like making Sara Ryder "ugly" or having no really white preset (which seemed more like an omission than some kind of conspiracy), but there are one or two grains of truth. The asari male pronoun section of Andromeda clearly was a line that felt SJW, whether it was or not is not the point, it -felt- that way and it went against established lore, which shouldn't happen to justify real world social issues, as an asari is both fictional and not human so shouldn't be held to the same standards. I'm anti-SJW, not because I disagree with them (as I believe fully in treating everyone equal, but to me, that means treating everyone the same and not treating anyone as a special case) but I disagree with their heavy-handed tactics that can result in people losing their jobs, that they are erroding free speech yet often claim to be liberal and their 'outcries' that tend to be a result of them having too much time on their hands, being online too much and not actually interacting with real people, and often because many of them have very very thin skin (not literally thin skin, in case someone gets upset, I'm meaning they are incapable of shrugging off peoples words). I mean, the whole SJW thing is framed as one of the major reasons why the game is perceived by many as a failure. Not the glitches, not the subpar animation, not weak writing, not the whole technical mess, but rather the game failed because the characters are not "white enough." That doesn't sound really silly to you? Especially since DA:I was a massive success and we have not only people of color as members of the main party in it. the whole bisexual/gay thing was even more prevalent in that game than in ME:A.
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Post by sil on Aug 24, 2017 9:56:50 GMT
I disagree, people should be free to worry about whether SJW agenda's are getting in the way of gaming. Most of their comments regarding ME:A are bollocks, especially things like making Sara Ryder "ugly" or having no really white preset (which seemed more like an omission than some kind of conspiracy), but there are one or two grains of truth. The asari male pronoun section of Andromeda clearly was a line that felt SJW, whether it was or not is not the point, it -felt- that way and it went against established lore, which shouldn't happen to justify real world social issues, as an asari is both fictional and not human so shouldn't be held to the same standards. I'm anti-SJW, not because I disagree with them (as I believe fully in treating everyone equal, but to me, that means treating everyone the same and not treating anyone as a special case) but I disagree with their heavy-handed tactics that can result in people losing their jobs, that they are erroding free speech yet often claim to be liberal and their 'outcries' that tend to be a result of them having too much time on their hands, being online too much and not actually interacting with real people, and often because many of them have very very thin skin (not literally thin skin, in case someone gets upset, I'm meaning they are incapable of shrugging off peoples words). I mean, the whole SJW thing is framed as one of the major reasons why the game is perceived by many as a failure. Not the glitches, not the subpar animation, not weak writing, not the whole technical mess, but rather the game failed because people is not white enough. That doesn't sound really silly to you? As I said, most of the comments regarding ME:A's SJW stuff is bollocks, but there are one or two cases where it is a valid comment. I disagreed with ignoring people who claim that, as they're allowed their own thought and shouldn't be discouraged from thinking.
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Post by laughingbanana on Aug 24, 2017 9:59:29 GMT
I mean, the whole SJW thing is framed as one of the major reasons why the game is perceived by many as a failure. Not the glitches, not the subpar animation, not weak writing, not the whole technical mess, but rather the game failed because people is not white enough. That doesn't sound really silly to you? As I said, most of the comments regarding ME:A's SJW stuff is bollocks, but there are one or two cases where it is a valid comment. I disagreed with ignoring people who claim that, as they're allowed their own thought and shouldn't be discouraged from thinking. Well, it's not like I "discouraged them from thinking", but I just disagree with the thought of "all the conclusions from all kind of thinking should be held equally" because, some thinking are just more dumb than the other and it's such a waste of brain cells trying to entertain them in our thoughts. I am not preventing anyone from thinking stupid thoughts, good on them, it's just that I chose not to let their stupid thoughts wasting my time. Well, that's just me.
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Post by sil on Aug 24, 2017 10:32:45 GMT
As I said, most of the comments regarding ME:A's SJW stuff is bollocks, but there are one or two cases where it is a valid comment. I disagreed with ignoring people who claim that, as they're allowed their own thought and shouldn't be discouraged from thinking. Well, it's not like I "discouraged them from thinking", but I just disagree with the thought of "all the conclusions from all kind of thinking should be held equally" because, some thinking are just more dumb than the other and it's such a waste of brain cells trying to entertain them in our thoughts. I am not preventing anyone from thinking stupid thoughts, good on them, it's just that I chose not to let their stupid thoughts wasting my time. Well, that's just me. I believe you've misunderstood what I was saying
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 24, 2017 10:46:04 GMT
As I said, most of the comments regarding ME:A's SJW stuff is bollocks, but there are one or two cases where it is a valid comment. I disagreed with ignoring people who claim that, as they're allowed their own thought and shouldn't be discouraged from thinking. Well, it's not like I "discouraged them from thinking", but I just disagree with the thought of "all the conclusions from all kind of thinking should be held equally" because, some thinking are just more dumb than the other and it's such a waste of brain cells trying to entertain them in our thoughts. I am not preventing anyone from thinking stupid thoughts, good on them, it's just that I chose not to let their stupid thoughts wasting my time. Well, that's just me. Nah, it's not just you.
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Post by dagless on Aug 24, 2017 18:47:06 GMT
Since when is social justice a dirty term anyway?
I remember when that was something to aspire to. What's wrong with people?
As for Bioware, so what if they decide to cater more to the LGBTA (or whatever the current acronym is) crowd than other games? So what if they decide to represent races that aren't white? And so what if you couldn't create a white Ryder (if that was actually true, which it isn't)? It's their story, they can tell it how they like and people can either play it or not as they choose.
It's not as if white straight people aren't well represented in games, TV or film. Snowflakes.
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Post by Garo on Aug 24, 2017 18:49:08 GMT
People were mad at ugly characters, gay romances and trans characters.
Also Jaal bi patch and like 2 changes for Hainly Abrams. Because priorities.
But like, it's not even safe to talk about it because butthurt levels get way to high, way too quick.
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Post by warrior on Aug 24, 2017 19:00:09 GMT
Since when is social justice a dirty term anyway? I remember when that was something to aspire to. What's wrong with people? As for Bioware, so what if they decide to cater more to the LGBTA (or whatever the current acronym is) crowd than other games? So what if they decide to represent races that aren't white? And so what if you couldn't create a white Ryder (if that was actually true, which it isn't)? It's their story, they can tell it how they like and people can either play it or not as they choose. It's not as if white straight people aren't well represented in games, TV or film. Snowflakes.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 24, 2017 19:04:14 GMT
To be honest I don't care if the games are SJW or not. I am just sick of people using SJW as an excuse to hate on bioware games.
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Post by dagless on Aug 24, 2017 19:07:21 GMT
Woo! Thanks. (Why doesn't this happen at work?)
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Post by Arcian on Aug 24, 2017 19:17:51 GMT
Projection in a nutshell. They are fighting identity politics with more identity politics. Damn it for once you are right about something Sometimes the stars align.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 24, 2017 19:18:30 GMT
You realize that you don't need to use the CC and try out every single preset to play the ten-hour trial, right? Not all the presets allowed for white skin tones. Just calm down. You said none of them did, slow down, young pup. You got caught in a lie own up to it. You said you could not make a white person in this game. then you said a pale white person. Your a liar. This is drawn from your own words. You can't make white people using certain presets - I assumed they were all like that. However if the examples posted in this thread are considered white, than maybe you can't after all. There's a reason why lack of white skin tones was discussed by EA themselves and addressed in future patches. Either way it's not a lie - it's what I believed based on my experience. It's like how you think the game is amazing - but you probably haven't played many amazing games.
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Post by Fogg on Aug 24, 2017 19:19:26 GMT
The original trilogy was pure pulp. Men's magazines scifi. Strippers, casual sex, hot outfits for the females. It all added to a big, exotic advanture out in the stars where anything seemed possible. ME:A didn't even have strippers.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 24, 2017 20:26:47 GMT
You said none of them did, slow down, young pup. You got caught in a lie own up to it. You said you could not make a white person in this game. then you said a pale white person. Your a liar. This is drawn from your own words. You can't make white people using certain presets - I assumed they were all like that. However if the examples posted in this thread are considered white, than maybe you can't after all. There's a reason why lack of white skin tones was discussed by EA themselves and addressed in future patches. Either way it's not a lie - it's what I believed based on my experience. It's like how you think the game is amazing - but you probably haven't played many amazing games. I have never said the game was "amazing." I obviously enjoy playing it in spite of many flaws and I've said my piece in numerous threads over it. Again, if you tried to make a white person during your alleged playthrough of the free trial you wouldn't be saying you couldn't.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 24, 2017 20:42:32 GMT
(general observation) We're all entitled to our views. It is sufficient to share if we think the game is good, bad or indifferent. It's becoming mightily tiresome to be in the firing line of folk who are trying to browbeat others to change their opinions.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 24, 2017 20:46:03 GMT
I honestly didn't know what SJW meant until I saw it after this game came out and went and looked it up.
If the game had been better we wouldn't have seen as much discussion over this. However, when people don't like something they will find everything single thing they can.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 24, 2017 20:59:48 GMT
You can't make white people using certain presets - I assumed they were all like that. However if the examples posted in this thread are considered white, than maybe you can't after all. There's a reason why lack of white skin tones was discussed by EA themselves and addressed in future patches. Either way it's not a lie - it's what I believed based on my experience. It's like how you think the game is amazing - but you probably haven't played many amazing games. I have never said the game was "amazing." I obviously enjoy playing it in spite of many flaws and I've said my piece in numerous threads over it. Again, if you tried to make a white person during your alleged playthrough of the free trial you wouldn't be saying you couldn't. I did try. The presets I tried didn't have the option. Not all the presets had the option at the time. I'm not going to waste my time going through all of them when I'm excited to start what I expect is going to be an amazing Mass Effect game. I'm not sure which part of this you don't understand.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 24, 2017 21:14:26 GMT
I have never said the game was "amazing." I obviously enjoy playing it in spite of many flaws and I've said my piece in numerous threads over it. Again, if you tried to make a white person during your alleged playthrough of the free trial you wouldn't be saying you couldn't. I did try. The presets I tried didn't have the option. Not all the presets had the option at the time. I'm not going to waste my time going through all of them when I'm excited to start what I expect is going to be an amazing Mass Effect game. I'm not sure which part of this you don't understand. I bought the game on sale before the patch with expanded customization hit. My first character was a white woman. Both standard Ryders are white. We're gonna have to get the fire department to dig you out of that hole you made for yourself if this keeps up.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 24, 2017 21:15:25 GMT
(general observation) We're all entitled to our views. It is sufficient to share if we think the game is good, bad or indifferent. It's becoming mightily tiresome to be in the firing line of folk who are trying to browbeat others to change their opinions. If you're referring to the whole "can't make white folks" thing, it's a matter of people wanting their own facts. If you want this line of dialogue to end, fair enough. I'll hold up my end if that's the case.
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